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Acid attack in Clapham

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PawsAndReflection · 31/01/2024 23:06

Has anyone else seen this horrible news story? Apparently 9 people have been injured, looks like the original targets were a woman and two children.

What is WRONG with people?!

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kirinm · 01/02/2024 12:54

This is just awful. This is quite obviously a man attacking his ex / current partner feeling he had a right to because she dared reject him.

Thank goodness for those people who came to their rescue. That poor baby.

I know what everyone means when they say 'domestic' but it does feel like it minimised what this actually was. A brutal attack aimed at either killing her and the child or severely injuring / scarring them. I hope they find him soon.

beastlyslumber · 01/02/2024 12:58

Sureaseggs44 · 01/02/2024 12:44

I think because they were arguing before the attack apparently.

That still doesn't make it a "feud".

It sounds more like an attack by an abusive man on his partner/ex-partner and kids.

Using the word "feud" implies that there is an equal responsibility of the other party for being involved in an ongoing series of attacks and retributions. I think that this is a very misleading word to use.

FlatWhiteExtraHot · 01/02/2024 13:00

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 12:43

Admittedly it does seem to often be men, but I don’t think it helps to label this simply as a man issue, this case was horrible:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44159192.amp

I believe there was another case where a jealous friend did this to another woman as well. Clearly there is something where certain “people” think this is ok to do and such actions carry very little consequence and it must stop!

Edited

Wow, well done you found one example. Would you like a round of applause? 🙄

Angrycat2768 · 01/02/2024 13:01

EasternStandard · 01/02/2024 12:39

Has this happened?

If not hopefully asap

I thought I heard this on the Today programme but nothing since so maybe they were mistaken. Surely they would easily know who it is. They just need to find him

Whatayear2023 · 01/02/2024 13:04

The public won't be shown pictures of wanted offender unless absolutely necessary ... if they put his picture out straight away someone spotted him who's to say more people wouldn't get injured as a result of trying to apprehend... if it is a domestic (I hate that term for violence) then hopefully his usual haunts will be known and he will be arrested shortly.
My sons working there this week and soon as I saw news I was calling frantic its so worrying

LakieLady · 01/02/2024 13:05

Angrycat2768 · 01/02/2024 08:45

I think he's been arrested

BBC news say they're still looking for him.

Such an unspeakably vile thing to do, I hope they get him soon.

MCOut · 01/02/2024 13:05

beastlyslumber · 01/02/2024 12:58

That still doesn't make it a "feud".

It sounds more like an attack by an abusive man on his partner/ex-partner and kids.

Using the word "feud" implies that there is an equal responsibility of the other party for being involved in an ongoing series of attacks and retributions. I think that this is a very misleading word to use.

Agreed. Attacking two innocent little girls is not a feud. Most of these chemical attacks are actually between men in the UK and they’re gang related so it seems like it’s almost word recycling and it’s not appropriate in this case.

Bookist · 01/02/2024 13:06

Yet another cretin who saw his partner and children as no more than goods & chattel to abuse however he wished.

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 13:06

FlatWhiteExtraHot · 01/02/2024 13:00

Wow, well done you found one example. Would you like a round of applause? 🙄

No… These attacks are devastating and they need to be stopped by anyone who commits them and thinks they can face little consequences for such an awful crime. ALL individuals who commit or think about committing such crimes need to understand they should face the full force of the law for doing so. I’d rather it not just be targeted on one group of people as too many individuals seem to be resorting to such horrible actions.

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 13:08

LakieLady · 01/02/2024 13:05

BBC news say they're still looking for him.

Such an unspeakably vile thing to do, I hope they get him soon.

Hope they catch him soon 😣

Orangeandgold · 01/02/2024 13:11

I remember the days when there were acid attacks happening all over the UK. It was so common here in London a few years ago and absolutely petrifying as some of these criminals were not afraid to do it in broad daylight. And often to random people.

This is such a horrific thing to do to someone with potential life changing consequences. Especially children! It’s evil.

I hope they catch him. I hope he doesn’t get off lightly too.

LakieLady · 01/02/2024 13:14

Lwrenn · 01/02/2024 10:41

That poor family. I have no words.

The sentencing for acid attacks is usually quite low, because it predominantly affects women.
I think acid attacks should carry a full life sentence without possibility of parole, nobody who can commit an acid attack is safe to be released publicly.
It's one of the worst forms of violence imo.

A life sentence is possible for GBH with intent, and I suspect this would meet the threshold for a charge of that.

I hope he gets life, too, but I haven't looked up the sentencing guidelines.

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 13:16

LakieLady · 01/02/2024 13:14

A life sentence is possible for GBH with intent, and I suspect this would meet the threshold for a charge of that.

I hope he gets life, too, but I haven't looked up the sentencing guidelines.

I Hope he gets life too, this is happening far too often and I worry the consequences are just too soft for the perpetrators, what’s to stop anyone else from thinking this is ok to do if the sentences are so soft?!

SquirmOfEels · 01/02/2024 13:17

I think they stress that it was a targeted attack is a way of telling the public that there is no reason to think there is someone on the lose who is randomly attacking others. Not to play down the seriousness (emergency services don’t often use terms like ‘horrific’ and ‘ghastly’) but to head off panic

It seems four passers by who intervened were injured, and that 3 of those were women. SKY says that one of them grabbed the younger girl (who had been thrown from the car) and took her to safety in her house until emergency services arrived. Good on her, and all who intervened

DecisionFatigue · 01/02/2024 13:17

Supersimkin2 · 31/01/2024 23:28

Just seen he targeted car 🚘 occupants. It’s a good 5 min drive away from Clapham High St ie murder mile.

Baggies of old meth all over the pavement, I walked up there on Sunday.

Wrong area, you’re thinking of Clapton (which isn’t so bad these days)

Boke · 01/02/2024 13:18

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 13:06

No… These attacks are devastating and they need to be stopped by anyone who commits them and thinks they can face little consequences for such an awful crime. ALL individuals who commit or think about committing such crimes need to understand they should face the full force of the law for doing so. I’d rather it not just be targeted on one group of people as too many individuals seem to be resorting to such horrible actions.

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This is a crime of violence by a man against a woman. His current or ex partner. The children too. He slammed one of the little girls twice on to the ground. This is a domestic abuse attack. It's not about scratching round to try and root out one isolated incidence of a woman throwing acid at a man.

MarysSonResurrected · 01/02/2024 13:22

I've been reading a bit about it this morning, stats and such. Acid attacks in the UK were previously associated with gang violence and primarily targeted males. There's been a recent shift in UK (what's caused this is unclear - anyone know?) with female victims now outnumbering males for the first time. Greatest prevalence seems to be in south Asian countries. Whilst most acid attack victims are female, in other countries like Nigeria, the majority of victims are male.

Maybe I can finally persuade my familya to get a one way ticket to MILs home country of Poland.

I never in my lifetime expected this The UK now has one of the highest number of recorded acid attacks per person of any country in the world, and the figure is expected to rise further, police have warned.

Britain is one of the worst countries in the world for acid attacks per person, it has been revealed

An average of two attacks a day are recorded by forces across the country

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/acid-attacks-uk-highest-world-figures-police-revealed-a8098236.html

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 13:22

Boke · 01/02/2024 13:18

This is a crime of violence by a man against a woman. His current or ex partner. The children too. He slammed one of the little girls twice on to the ground. This is a domestic abuse attack. It's not about scratching round to try and root out one isolated incidence of a woman throwing acid at a man.

Exactly a domestic abuse attack, I would read that article, it was quite a famous case because the victim basically killed himself after because the after effects were so brutal. Certain individuals cannot deal with people no longer wanting to being with them and doing awful things which is also is what happened in the Clapham case and with other acid attacks (Katie piper). There is no scratching around as that case is quite a famous one regardless of whether it is a man or woman who did it. Thank goodness in that case the former couple didn’t have kids.

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 13:25

I mean I’m assuming that’s the motive in the Clapham case anyway!

Boke · 01/02/2024 13:28

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 13:22

Exactly a domestic abuse attack, I would read that article, it was quite a famous case because the victim basically killed himself after because the after effects were so brutal. Certain individuals cannot deal with people no longer wanting to being with them and doing awful things which is also is what happened in the Clapham case and with other acid attacks (Katie piper). There is no scratching around as that case is quite a famous one regardless of whether it is a man or woman who did it. Thank goodness in that case the former couple didn’t have kids.

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Yes, a domestic abuse attack by a man against a woman. A crime which is endemic in the UK. Sex (male/female) is a critic factor here, not something incidental.

safetyfreak · 01/02/2024 13:28

Cantalever · 01/02/2024 12:04

What the F is wrong with MEN? I am beginning to agree with the psychologist (a man) who believes all men are mentally ill (not an excuse) because of the effects of patriarchy and their detachment from producing life itself. There is something very very sick about men's cultural entitlement to privilege combined with testosterone = potential or actual violence. What happens to their humanity or any moral compass?

The older I get, the more I agree with this.

Its ALWAYS men (95% of the time) for the posters who scream "women do it too!"

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 13:33

I agree men often do these attacks more than women and with violent crime in general. I’ll be honest whenever I hear about an acid attack the first thing I think of is Katy Piper and of that case, that case in particular because I remember reading about it and finding it so upsetting esp because the victim ended up feeling like euthanasia was his best option after. It just highlighted how devastating and brutal these attacks are. That is all xx

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fieldsofflowers · 01/02/2024 13:39

BBC say the police have named suspect as Abdul Ezedi, from Newcastle

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