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Lost and alone, no idea how to help myself any more

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Completelydefeated · 18/01/2024 18:37

I’m posting here as I have no one to turn to. I have suffered loss after loss over the last couple of years. The death of my beloved mother following an extended period caring for her after a devastating diagnosis, even our lovely cat shortly after, I have moved, changed jobs, been diagnosed with early menopause (no children but always had hope I would be a mother). I feel like every element of my life has been picked off, bit by bit, out of my control.
My relationship (don’t live together) is coming to an end. I don’t have any family left and ‘friends’ are all busy with their own lives. I deal with everything life throws at me on my own.

I don’t feel like I have anyone I can turn to. I am severely depressed but high functioning. I have sought help from the GP and am having counselling but nothing works anymore. I exercise and eat well for all the difference it makes. I feel like half a person and can’t share my feelings with anyone in real life. I can manage to engage with colleagues to do my job but can’t relate to anyone due to everything I have been through.

I feel like it is one thing after another and I don’t have any support which would help me massively. I am only in my early 40s but I feel like my life is over and am in a state of high alert, wondering what will go wrong next.

I am lonely and like one of those Help the Aged ads you see. Going weeks without seeing anyone, unless I go to work or to the shops. I can’t bring myself to talk to people or do anything outside of work and yet I am so lonely it is physically painful. I don’t have any next of kin, no one to comfort me when I am upset, talk to about my day. Alone all the time other than when I go to work. I know no one has any answers but I have lost all hope. I don’t feel like I am important or contribute to society.

Not sure what I hope to gain from this. Perhaps it’s just the act of writing it all out. I can’t face another possible 40 years of this. The main thing is not having any support. I know life is what you make of it. I have tried to be positive and not think about what has happened but (and I know this may not sound nice), some people seem to have things slot in to place in life. I listen to people talk about their partners, children, wider family etc. I just have to sit there and plaster on a smile. I feel like I have been dealt a bad card and don’t know what to do to dig myself out of it. No one exists who loves me or even cares about me. It makes my heart break even more. I’m not some awful person. I can’t understand why this is happening to me and am frightened about what the future holds (or doesn’t). Thanks for reading.

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Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 15:12

@WhichIsItWendy I am not sure it is fair to adopt a child when you have so many mental health challenges and trauma that have not been worked through. In fact I am sure going through the process this would be considered. I need to work full time. I am on my own. No family. What if I am having an awful day and can only manage to go to work and that’s it? Who will see to my child? I know people do it but it isn’t viable for me. It’s a lovely idea but just a dream. From what I understand, the adoption process is long and arduous and rightly so, as the well-being of children must come first. I haven’t got it in me to go through yet another major thing alone.

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Touty · 19/01/2024 15:22

Have you thought about antidepressants? They work. For me they turned down the volume of the noise in my head and gave me the motivation to start making changes to improve quality of life. I couldn’t get out of bed before and interacting with people was just too much.

Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 15:24

I have been on antidepressants on and off for twenty years @Touty . They work to a point for me then they stop and I hate having to rely on medication just to feel like I can muster the energy to have a wash. We have become a society where whenever there is an issue, the GP’s response is to chuck a packet of tablets at it, without dealing with the root cause. Grieving is a natural response and needs to be worked through. I do believe in medication but there’s a holistic approach required. I exercise daily, try to eat well as I know eating rubbish makes me feel rubbish, I don’t have any social media. I don’t want to be on tablets forever as the only solution to being able to function like a normal human.

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NeatNectarine · 19/01/2024 15:26

Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 15:05

@NeatNectarine ok, that makes sense. Sorry to read what you went through. I am fully aware only I can change things but at the moment I can barely manage to get up and dressed. I don’t want to feel like this but it is not as easy as bouncing out the door. If it was, I would do it. It is the support aspect I am struggling with. Sometimes as an adult you need looking after. I feel dead inside, I can’t be bothered to interact with people face to face. I have had to take charge of everything alone for a long time and I am tired and fed up. It’s credit to my resilience that I have managed to hold down a full time job. You cannot pour from an empty cup as they say.

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I know what you mean about the support aspect, but someone isn't going to magically come to your door and provide that, you need to initiate it yourself.

As hard as it may be take a deep breath and find a local running club or go out there and do some volunteering, because whatever happens it will reduce the time you spend on your own.

I don't want this to sound too critical, because I understand how you feel. I am 44, and have been single for a long time and taking charge of everything on my own forever! I have no family aside from my dad (and he is 82), I am living in the house I was born in and working in a job that gives me little fulfilment. My life has hardly turned out as I expected.

I am trying hard to change that. Like I say it started last year when I found a local running group, it took a lot of courage when I went to that first session on my own one cold November night in 2022, but I am so glad I did as I have made so many really good friends from it. People I feel a real bond and connection with and it has significantly reduced the amount of time I spend on my own.

If you sit there and do nothing your life will continue as it is. If you take charge and do something, no matter how hard it feels, you might change something.

No matter how hard it feels, you need to take action. I really do wish you the best of luck.

Touty · 19/01/2024 15:27

Ok. Can I ask how old you are? It’s just that the antidepressants stopped working for me around menopause when my oestrogen levels dropped. When I started HRT the antidepressants started working again, apparently we have oestrogen receptors in our brain.

Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 15:30

@Touty I have done reading on this and understand the link but this is just the pattern it has always taken with me, even when I was in my twenties. I don’t want to be dosed up and up and never come off them. I used to take them for years and the older I get, the more anti them I am. Then I have a major depressive episode and go back on them but my life is still crap and I feel like I have failed because I am relying on a tablet to find equilibrium.

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Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 15:33

@NeatNectarine yup, all you are saying makes sense. I have tried MeetUp and Bumble BFF in the past. Just don’t feel I have anything to contribute to conversations and find it exhausting having to be jolly and cheery, which leads to me crying on the way home. As a woman you are inevitably asked whether you have children. I’m just a misfit, I’ve always felt that.

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NeatNectarine · 19/01/2024 15:40

Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 15:33

@NeatNectarine yup, all you are saying makes sense. I have tried MeetUp and Bumble BFF in the past. Just don’t feel I have anything to contribute to conversations and find it exhausting having to be jolly and cheery, which leads to me crying on the way home. As a woman you are inevitably asked whether you have children. I’m just a misfit, I’ve always felt that.

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So you have had lots and lots of advice from numerous people on here, what do you plan to do with all of it? What next steps are you going to take?

Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 15:44

@NeatNectarine I see you are instigating a tough love approach. I do appreciate what everyone has written on here. We are all different. I am in the early stages of grief. I don’t need to be told what I should and shouldn’t be forcing myself to do. I am not a child. It’s helpful to have ideas to consider. I don’t need to devise a step by step action plan as if you are my manager at work. I may be wrong but you do not sound as if you know what it is to be depressed. It is debilitating and crippling.

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thesandwich · 19/01/2024 16:01

Op, I can understand your response to @NeatNectarine. There are so many of us trying to suggest things to you to help. 🌺🌺.
As others have said, you write beautifully. Do you keep a journal? A gratitude journal is another idea mentioned which has been proven to help.
Does your gp have a social prescriber who may be able to suggest local supportive groups? I have seen so much about gardening and its impact on mental health. And supportive groups who do this.
OP, please join the bereavement board where people will get it. And keep getting up, turning up, one foot in front of another. I hope people on here responding here make you feel at least a little bit heard.

Janetsmug · 19/01/2024 16:04

Do you fancy a bit of a pen pal type arrangement OP? We could PM on here til we know each other better and then maybe move to email or WhatsApp or something? No pressure but I'm a similar sort of age and also a bit isolated, be nice to have someone to chat shit with!

Totally up to you and could be completely as and when, no feeling obligated to keep messaging back unless the mood strikes you. Have a think, advanced search me on here so you can see I'm relatively normal (should really have AS'd myself before I said that but pretty sure I come across as normal!) and PM me if you like, I'm not a bad listener if I do say so myself Smile

ChocolateRebellion · 19/01/2024 16:18

I'm so sorry to read about your situation.

I've just read the full thread and understand some of how you feel.

I've lost both parents (one in my twenties, one last year), then a sibling and the last straw was the suicide of my teenage daughter. Now my partner has a life limiting illness and I feel as though I've got some sort of infection that causes all my loved ones to die!

I don't have the strength or energy to do much other than plod along my narrow groove, but you do sound like you're getting ready to re-engage with the world again, even in a limited way.

As you are so good at putting your feelings down, I was just going to suggest finding a pen pal. They do still exist (though you don't have to give out your address).

I spend a lot of time thinking about my lost family and wishing things were different. Sometimes when I'm feeling stronger I remind myself that none of them would want me to be so unhappy and so I resolve to live my best life for them. It's a work in progress, as you'll know.

Anyway, I wish you all the very best and hope you'll come back and update us in the future x

Nicecupofteadear · 19/01/2024 16:24

I’m so so sorry you have been through so much. Everything sounds so difficult for you right now. Please give yourself time to grieve for your lovely Mum and process everything that has happened to you. There are some very helpful suggestions on your post, I would really be kind to yourself and take it one day at a time. Would you consider attending a bereavement group for those in similar circumstances? It might be comforting to chat to others in a similar situation. Creative writing is a wonderful suggestion, one that can be extremely therapeutic, also painting and art is mindful and relaxing. In time you will be stronger and come through this, right now give yourself permission to grieve for all you have lost. Sending hugs 💜

Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 16:32

I know the response sounds defensive (it is) @thesandwich but I feel very battered by life and the reply made me feel like I shouldn’t allow myself to grieve and need to get up and out. It’s not that I am not grateful for all the ideas and plan to sit inside on my own forever more. I need to digest all the information and see what I can start with.
I don’t keep a journal. I started writing to my mum and do that every so often. Not sure about the social prescribing. The GP hasn’t mentioned it. I can ask. The responses have helped, thank you. I will join the bereavement board.

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Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 16:34

Thanks @Janetsmug , that’s a nice idea. No idea how to advanced search. I only registered to post yesterday but I will figure it out.

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FizzyStream · 19/01/2024 16:35

OP that sounds so tough. I'm sorry you feel so lonely. I wish I could give you a hug. I'm so pants at advice and haven't really got any but I couldn't not reply, you sound so sad and it's through no fault of your own. I really really hope things pick up for you soon Flowers

Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 16:40

@ChocolateRebellion sending you strength. What truly awful things to go through. I feel the same as you in terms of like having an infection - a perfect description. Everything I touch crumbles and everyone I love I lose. I don’t like to act like a victim but am at the stage where I feel like the universe has it in for me. No happy ending for me. Any bad luck? Divert it to @Completelydefeated Any good luck? Divert it well away from her!
I don’t have any words that can comfort you. I’m not a fan of platitudes. Goodness knows you hear enough when people die e.g. ‘they are at peace’ and it makes me want to scream. It is incredibly painful and it is shit. You are in my thoughts.

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thesandwich · 19/01/2024 16:41

Writing to your mum sounds sounds a very useful thing to do. Please consider the pen pal ideas/ offers too. There are people out there(and here) who would love to have you as a friend. It’s just so tough finding them.
You’ve taken a very courageous step by posting.🌺🌺

Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 16:42

@thesandwich I certainly will, thank you.

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Nestofwalnuts · 19/01/2024 16:44

OP, I read your initial post and my heart went out to you. You havve been through and are going through so much and that is SO difficult on your own. In the past I've had depression, like you High Functioning, masking it from everyone while it got worse and worse, and know that crazy conundrum of feeling so lonely and yet being unable to reply to texts.

This might sound a bit pretentious but I'll risk that, in case it is helpful to you. I came across a copy of Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics and read the section about friendship. It totally changed my attitude to loneliness and to what friendship is and can be. It was years ago so I don;t remember what he actually says but what I took from it is this:

There are different layers of friendship and companionship, and (crucially) all of them are equally valuable to a healthy life.
That's what I'd not understood intuitively. I longed for closeness. Nothing else would do. But Aristotle says embrace all layers.

He says foster work friendships with people you admire for their work ethic or talent etc. Just have a coffee together. Keep it professional but make it warm. Suggest getting lunch together if there's a conference or after a meeting. Or ask a colleague's opinion on a proposal. Or recommend a book or talk related to work.

The next one was really valuable to me. He says, court shallow friendship. It is of immense value. Go out with those mates you can never truly open up to. That light surface friendship can be very sustaining and get you out of your brooding mood, as long as you don't hope it will deepen or try too hard to make it deepen. Lots of people love friendship to stay superficial and any hint of intensity will scare them off. But the friendship can still be pleasant. Go to the cinema or some other easy outing. Meet Up organises this sort of thing if you aren't at a life stage where you have this sort of acquaintance to hand. Maybe you could reply to some of those texts with this in mind - suggest an easy meet up that just takes your mind off things for an hour or so, rather than leading to something deeper. Ironically, when I took this advice to heart and became much less intense about friendship, closer friendships evolved from the shallow ones.

Aristotle also says connect with your community. This is essential to wellbeing. Contribute. Very hard when you feel bad. But at my lowest I helped in a food bank and at his lowest someone i know helped in a soup kitchen. He got life long friends from that and I loved that year at the food bank. It helped me out of depression. So join something communal - local community gardening, church choir, political campaign for a party or cause you support etc. Don't expect this 'friendship' to be anything more than it is on the surface - like minded souls, making their local area a bit better. You may meet great friends. Or you may meet oddball acquaintances. But value this for what it is rather than hoping it will be something else - the coming together of like-minded people for a bit of common good. You belong and you make your mark.

Shared passion friendships can be slow to grow but ime, arethe best. You say you exercise still. That's a good start, Could it be more communal - a running club, dance class etc. It took about two years of yoga before any of us spoke to each other. Now we go on holiday together, out for walks, swap home made jam and plant cuttings.

Join the Ramblers or Meet Up for walks. Arm yourself with a few walking-related questions about best loacl walks, sticks, boots, pub lunch etc to break the ice, so you can avoid small talk about children or partners - I know how grim it can feel to have to say no you don't have any of these when people start talking about family.

Once you feel up to it, try dating. If you go into OLD with zero expectations, but just curiosity about who is out there in the world, then you can laugh about the dodgy dates, maybe make friends with people who you liked but had no spark, and gradually expand your circle.

And meanwhile seek help - loads of it. Swamp yourself in help right now. You deserve it. High functioning depressives are notoriously bad at getting help. You do everything for yourself and it gets harder and harder. Look for group therapy, bereavement groups, online and in person. Call Samaritans, Cruse (bereavement support charity). Sign up for free online therapy with NHS, try some private counsellors or therapists. Ask a local vicar or church outreach person if you can chat about what has happened. Call someone or join a group meet up every day to talk through how you feel. Ditch any shame. Don't think: I'm so lonely I have to stoop to this. Think: these people give up their time to help others and I deserve their help right now. I need support and they are offering. I will take all the help I can get.

Do some woo stuff too maybe - gong baths, 5 rhythms dance, yoga, meditation. These will nurture you a bit and you may find friends there. I've been going to some of this stuff just for fun and it is clear some of the people there started when they were in a dark place and now they go weekly because they love it. Some slightly eccentric things build up warm, friendly communities quite quickly.

You come over as a lovely person who is at her lowest point. I am sure you won't be alone for the next 40 years but it's completely understandable why at this stage it feels like you might be. I admire you for taking care of yourself while you feel this low, for exercising and eating well and taking medication. I think if you keep gently putting feelers out into the world in every direction, without expectation but with curiosity and lots of self compassion, your life will be unrecognisably full and loving within a year or two, It takes time, but I bet 12 months form now you'll see an improvement and 24 months from now, that deep consuming loneliness with be a memory.

Greensleevevssnotnose · 19/01/2024 16:50

Completelydefeated · 18/01/2024 22:36

That’s an idea I have considered @Greensleevevssnotnose - a lovely furry friend without the full time commitment.
One thing that I wondered about was that I don’t have any experience with dogs (cat person). Do you need to have? What if it runs off never to return, bites someone or eats something it shouldn’t and keels over? As you can see, having been through what I have I immediately jump to what will go wrong for me. I cannot switch it off! Perhaps I’ll just dress a cat up as a dog and walk that.

You have insurance through the site and you can't let them off the lead without written permission from the owner.

RagnarRagnar · 19/01/2024 17:33

haven’t read the full thread but from your original post I would say first thing is to sort out some antidepressants which work for you. A lot of what you write (very eloquently) is the thoughts of depressed person whose mind is not thinking right. This is the no. 1 priority in my mind, next I would try hrt if your mood doesn’t lift and you have anxiety issues. Once this is sorted you will be more capable of dealing with the grief. I lost my mum 2 years ago and it’s devastating and I didn’t even like her very much! Then you can begin to sketch out what you want to do next/ what makes you happy. Personally I would recommend some travelling or voluntary work overseas. Xx

Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 18:54

Thank you @Nestofwalnuts - some really helpful advice.

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SingaporeSlinky · 19/01/2024 20:27

I know you didn’t respond well to NeatNectarine’s posts, but I think his point was that you’ve started a thread ‘no idea how to help myself’ and have been given a lot of really good ideas. The only one I’ve seen you actually say you’ll do is join the bereavement board on here. While it may help to have people to chat with in similar situations to you, I worry this will just keep you dwelling on your grief.

The point was, chatting online to strangers discussing each others’ grief won’t help you pull yourself out of depression. But if you were able to say “right, tomorrow I will go to my nearest Parkrun”, you’ll have tried something new, got some fresh air, perhaps exchanged pleasantries with some people. Hopefully that one step could make the difference when it comes to dinner time tomorrow, a small sense of achievement.

I think joining groups specifically looking for friends will inevitably lead to ‘getting to know you’ questions about if you’re married or have kids etc. But more generic groups like exercise groups or volunteering somewhere might have less pressure to immediately feel like you need to tell your life story.

Could you make a list of little things you could do between now and next weekend? I know you say you’re only just getting through work, but you are doing it.

Do you have a library nearby? Could you pop in to join and aim to have a 1 minute chat with the librarian? Maybe ask if they host any social groups or educational classes? Or next time you’re at a supermarket checkout, make a point of chatting with the checkout person? Might sound silly but little interactions can make a difference to feeling like you’re just existing. I try to make a point of complimenting people while I’m browsing in shops, just little things like telling someone I love their perfume. It puts a smile on their face and costs me nothing. A few weeks ago I told the checkout lady I liked her hat and she smiled and told me all about how her sister sent it over from Canada and that it came with different coloured bobbles that she could swap over. I left thinking I’d probably only made a tiny difference to her day (or hour), but it can be those little things that put a spring in your step. And not just hers, but mine too, I left with a smile on my face too.

Completelydefeated · 19/01/2024 21:11

I understand what the point was @SingaporeSlinky and my point is I am depressed. I have said I will look through the thread and start to implement steps, that I am grateful for the suggestions. Your post is similar. A very Disney way of looking at the world. Congratulations on being Pochahontas, talking to little animals and telling people they smell glorious whilst skipping through tulips. I have been through hell. It will take more than patting a dog’s head to put a spring in my step. Of course I interact with people in shops and on occasion compliment people. I am not a robot.
I am an intelligent woman and I am mainly kind, but I can also be assertive, as you are experiencing. I have to deal with everything alone, include panic attacks and sobbing on the floor with no one to even give me a hug. I do little things that prevent me getting any worse such as exercise, going out for a walk, yoga, eating well, avoiding alcohol. As for pulling me out of my depression, it implies I have put myself there in the first place. It’s a bit like telling someone to walk on a broken leg.
I think about my mum and everything I have lost all the time. There is no way of taking my mind off it. You talking about dwelling on grief again shows a lack of understanding. We all grieve differently and losses are not just when people die. I wonder whether you have ever experienced grief or been depressed because you don’t come across as someone who understands the pain. To be honest I am glad if you don’t understand the pain because it means you haven’t lost everything dear to you. I would not wish that on anyone.
By berating me for not immediately getting a dog and joining Park Run, it is a little bit like saying I am not grieving correctly because I should be doing X and Y and that is one of the worst things you can do when someone has experienced loss. The way I am reacting is valid and if all I can do is get up and brush my teeth, then put on a brave face at work, that is ok. I have felt heard on this thread and there have been some great ideas which I haven’t considered before and I plan to implement. I feel sad that I feel I have to be assertive and justify myself. Yes, I am angry because that is also a part of grief and I have come across so many people like you. The “just have a nice bath and light some candles” brigade when your whole world has fallen apart and your heart is broken.

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