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Would you resent a colleague who has this ‘privilege’

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Resentedpumpkin · 18/12/2023 16:49

Which is actually a reasonable adjustment?

Asd and adhd plus ME - I’m needing more and more breaks due to ASD and avoiding shutdown. It’s been agreed on my return after 2 weeks off (shutdown and selective mutism) . So now when it gets too much I’m able to log off (if WFH) or leave my desk for up to 30 mins as many times as needed per day.

it’s been once or twice a day but yesterday happened 4 times (10 mins, 30 mins, 25 mins and 5 mins)

Had some sarcastic and off remarks about it from others and now just feeling shit and embarrassed. Everyone is aware of my conditions so it’s not like they don’t know

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VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 28/12/2023 20:08

InAMess2023 · 28/12/2023 18:21

So 36% of all working age adults who don't work are unemployed due to their autism?

I never said that it was ok to make snide comments or that workplace bullying was ok. Not once. But we don't know enough about the context to see why they may feel resentful... funny I don't see you arguing with the many many people on this thread who agree they would feel resentment. Just me who doesn't fit in your little box of 'what autism looks like' - I don't fit your narrative I guess

Just as a found your insistence on calling me an 'autist' offensive, I take offence at you also telling me I am disabled. I'm not. I just have different abilities. But I get it, you're one of those people with autism who think they can be rude and condescending to everyone because of your diagnosis. Gotcha

I do not use the term "people with autism".

Whether you are disabled is a matter of legal fact, determinable by a tribunal. Your opinion doesn't matter to the law.

I have stated repeatedly that anyone who resents OP's reasonable adjustments is being unreasonable. I do not have to quote them individually to do this. I wouldn't be quoting you, had you not picked a fight with me about my choice of terminology.

So 36% of all working age adults who don't work are unemployed due to their autism?

The Autism Society article doesn't claim that and neither do I. Check my posts if you don't believe me.

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InAMess2023 · 28/12/2023 20:13

@VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia and I don't use autist but you carried on...

oh so my own opinion as to whether I'm disabled is dictated to me rather than being my own decision...right.

How about attacking the rest of the posters who admit they'd feel resentful? Oh I'm sorry it's only you who gets to pick a fight about terminology!

Well according to @Scautish only 20% of ALL people with autism are in employment... 1.1% of all adults are estimated to have ASD, so that means 80% of working adults with ASD is 330,000 or 36% of the unemployed. Funny I never got asked to complete this survey... maybe because I'm not disabled!

Scautish · 28/12/2023 20:27

@InAMess2023

I do not understand why you are being so unbelievably aggressive and offensive. @VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia used “autist” once them after that only in reference to herself. You on the other hand specifically referred to her as a “person with autism” when she had told you she found that offensive.

your refusal to recognise that some autistic people, me included, feel disabled is also deeply offensive. And stating that “ASD is my superpower” is something I only hear from the self-diagnosed - it’s insulting and inaccurate for so many of us.

i cannot see how you have added anything positive in this thread, started by an autistic person struggling at work and being bullied for having reasonable adjustments. Do you think a single one of your posts have helped? At least I have tried to help.

I really don’t understand why there is so much aggression, denial and anger in your posts. You don’t seem to be in a very happy place. I hope you find some inner peace.

InAMess2023 · 28/12/2023 20:31

@Scautish

  1. the mafia don never said she found it offensive
  2. I've never refused to recognise that someone else may feel they are disabled - your little friend told me that legally I am disabled but that's ok apparently
  3. now who's being discriminatory by implying only the self diagnosed can see the positives?
  4. you're only butt hurt because I don't fit your little box
SomethingSpangly · 28/12/2023 20:40

Resentedpumpkin · 28/12/2023 15:12

This is the only job I’ve ever been able to do and I don’t want to think it’s not working out and give up. The alternative is UC and not working and I’m not ready for that life so I’m trying to get back up to the functional level I was prior to all this

I should step away from the thread OP and just take comfort that you have your employer's full support. That's all that matters. What's "reasonable" is up to them to ascertain. Colleagues have no right to demand to either know the full gory details of your confidential health issues, or pass judgement on what constitutes a reasonable adjustment in your particular circumstances; they only have a right to know that the correct processes are followed. They should be thanking their lucky stars they're working for a good employer.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 28/12/2023 21:04

The quality of Scautish's arithmetic and validity of figures she's sourced from elsewhere (like the current unemployment headcount) have nothing to do with how the research underpinning the National Autistic Society article was conducted. You were unreasonable in making an unfounded attack on the research methodology and more unreasonable in doubling down when I provided evidence of the methodology.

oh so my own opinion as to whether I'm disabled is dictated to me rather than being my own decision...right.

You can have any opinion about yourself that you want. That doesn't mean that you are right in the eyes of the law. This thread is a discussion about disabled people's workplace legal entitlements, not your opinion about yourself.

6:1 A person (P) has a disability if
(a) P has a physical or mental impairment, and
(b) the impairment has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on P's ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.

The law doesn't say anything about P's feelings on the matter.

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