Thread 34 Sunak - the Circus is back in Westminster

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She is fearsome at the Despatch box I have to say... any Home Secretary quakes in their boots when she stands up, she has all the facts and figures at her fingertips

I’d love her as PM but she’s going to be amazing as Home Sec and I’d rather that she was that than PM.

I agree Rafa this is her niche, she's brilliant at it

Is it not also like Brexit, most people didn't think about Europe and the union much until they were rammed into their consciousness and lied to about? Mass onslaught from right wing msm and pals?

It’s exactly like EU/Brexit in many ways. Nit least because you’re supposed to keep it in your pocket as an excuse for people to blame for everything and to keep other stuff out of the news but you’re not supposed to actually do it because it’s unworkable and will be a clusterfuck.

Exactly like Brexit. And the knowing what a woman is schtick they’re using to try and wind women up with.

Also, of course, look squirrel! 🐿️

Agreed tobee and Rafa.

You can again take one for the team

It will pass, lots of noise and the death of Tory moderation

I think the vote is at 7. I may be home by then on our non functioning public transport system.

Not to mention the death of British democracy and independence of legislative and executive systems.

I wonder if the shy Tories will speak up, and will it be for or against the bill

I don't know why I'm torturing myself by listening to the bilge in parliament.

I am following it via Ian Dunt's twitter thread, that's enough for me.

The brexit benefit thread has an 'interesting' poster Very much as we were discussing on the previous thread

I might look in on Ian Dunt too

It’s a good read.

Thank you Duncin some flowers to cheer us all up, especially those of you missing loved ones at this time of year.

I'm sat in a car park in torrential rain (waiting for DD) and following Ian Dunt. It's a depressing catalogue.

Beautiful flowers dontcallmelen

ERG saying they collectively won't support the bill, but it will be for individuals to decide how to vote. I think that means they will abstain, so the bill will pass this reading. They will ask for amendments further down the line.

I think that is what they are saying, but was not totally clear!

Not just the ERG but all the right groups of the Tory party. That would be 40 MPs I think only 57 need to abstain to sink it.

They want to amend it in committee stage but the ‘moderates’ aren’t going to vote for an amended bill that makes it more extreme.

They are calling themselves the 5 families

Such talentless dregs pulling this country down into the cesspit that is the Conservative party agree it’s a depressing read ICaudine

BREAK: All five groups in right of party announcement on vote: we cannot support the bill tonight

From Ian Dunt

Cooper intervenes: "Is he aware that while he's been speaking, the New Conservatives, European Research Group, Northern Research Group, Conservative Growth Group and the Commons Sense Group have all said that they can;t support the bill and are going to abstain tonight?"

(Tomlinson speaking)

Did they call themselves that or did the media make it up?