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What is one hill you will die on?

833 replies

whitetip · 03/12/2023 12:59

One opinion that you have that will never waver, no matter what?..

OP posts:
marshmallowfinder · 03/12/2023 17:10

bluedelphiniums · 03/12/2023 16:28

@marshmallowfinder including using a comma before 'and' in a list?

Yes, that's absolutely fine. It's an oxford comma.

CrapGoat · 03/12/2023 17:11

Humans cannot change sex, and there is a biological difference between men and women (despite what is taught in schools and universities!).

This.

It's 'Another think coming', not another 'thing' coming.

It is 'tenterhooks' not 'tenderhooks'.

Men do not belong in women's prisons, sports, loos etc etc.

Magdelen Bern's death was an epic tragedy.

Epstein didn't kill himself. Halloween Wink

JoyeuxNarwhal · 03/12/2023 17:11
hipster whale pineapple GIF by Piffle

Pineapple fucking well DOES belong on pizza!

CVVW · 03/12/2023 17:11

Neelsplace · 03/12/2023 16:49

Gonks have nothing to do with Christmas.

I have a gonk living on my landing windowsill all year round.

Rainbowshit · 03/12/2023 17:12

BitOutOfPractice · 03/12/2023 17:00

The hill is like to die on is wanting one, just one thread not to be taken over with a trans issues debate. God it’s getting tedious now. I have my own strong opinions on the matter but the constant CONSTANT hijacking of every thread with the issue is making mn a not nice place to be. Give it a rest.

I await my flaming.

Tough. We're not shutting up about it.

Kdtym10 · 03/12/2023 17:13

Ebokebok · 03/12/2023 13:31

Yes it does and you should therefore know that you never put a coma before and 🙈

Oxford comma

Thepeopleversuswork · 03/12/2023 17:13

That I never forgive someone who has indicated they believe themselves to be socially superior to me. I'm one strike and you're out with this. If anyone ever patronises me or ignore me socially or behaves in an exclusive or high-handed fashion they are instantly dead.

Museum10660 · 03/12/2023 17:13

we need a science town or city like global dynamics from the show town called eureka to be fully funded, have the best of the best scientists and create all types of technologies.

icebearforpresident · 03/12/2023 17:14

Home Alone is not a Christmas movie. And I 100% agree with @BitOutOfPractice

Dita73 · 03/12/2023 17:15

@dapsnotplimsolls bugger! Please excuse my menopausal brain! Chocolate does not go with fruit!!!!

IGiveUpalready · 03/12/2023 17:15

Most things are not offensive and that there is a difference between offensive and being offended.

An example of this would be the song "Baby, its cold outside" is it anymore offensive that Cardi B's WAP?

Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean is should be banned/cancelled.

(Except for Santa Claus, it will always be Father Christmas to me :D )

Headshoulderscheeseontoast · 03/12/2023 17:15

marshmallowfinder · 03/12/2023 13:06

Spelling, grammar, and punctuation. It does matter.

😂😂

lifeturnsonadime · 03/12/2023 17:16

bloodyfreezinghere · 03/12/2023 17:05

It's a lovely place for the already converted
Actually no, I had no idea about this topic until I started coming to mumsnet when I was pregnant. Becoming aware of this issue, after doing the recommended of ' educating myself' did convert me. I read up on 'both sides' and it was pretty obvious who had the evidence and arguments to back up their case and who did not.

It's a lovely place for the already converted but it's not going to help open up the minds of the gen z women in my office, for example. They are not going to engage with this website at all because of it's reputation

Well all you are saying here is that the gen z'ers are ideologically converted to such an extent that they refuse to read or hear the views of anyone they think they will not agree with. But how do they know they will not agree with them if they refuse to hear what they say? I went straight to the people with ' a reputation' when I was making up my mind on what I thought on this issue. They are surely exactly the people you include amongst those you listen to?

Yes, me too, I went on FWR firmly believing that trans women should be treated as women a few years ago and some of the post from the intelligent women on there made the scales fall off in the sense that trans rights won't impact privileged women in the same way they will vulnerable women, the ones who need to access prisons, refuges etc. Once you see that being kind harms women you can't unsee it.

Some of the hypothetical issues for women posed by gender ideology seemed so far fetched at the time, such as men competing as women at sport, rapists in women's prison etc. It started as 'it will never happen', and then it went to 'well it's a one off' and a suggestion that women and children who are harmed by trans women are simply 'collateral damage' for the greater good that is that gender is more important. Then you look at WHO this benefits and it is almost always males and you see it for what it really is.

So no I don't agree that this is an echo chamber that doesn't improve awareness, it's not my experience nor the experience of many women who have been educated by the intelligent women on FWR that we don't have to 'be kind' and give away women's rights to this group of males who don't care a jot that their being in our single sex spaces causes harm.

Xol · 03/12/2023 17:16

I do find it odd that so many people are claiming the ONE hill they would die on is the trans issue. Really? You wouldn't die on hills such as anti-racism, social justice, eliminating poverty, eliminating disability discrimination, decent health care, etc etc?

Dontcallmescarface · 03/12/2023 17:17

Queen is the most overrated band ever and Bohemian Rhapsody is fucking awful.

<goes off to hill, donned in battle armour>

VanityDiesHard · 03/12/2023 17:18

Thepeopleversuswork · 03/12/2023 17:13

That I never forgive someone who has indicated they believe themselves to be socially superior to me. I'm one strike and you're out with this. If anyone ever patronises me or ignore me socially or behaves in an exclusive or high-handed fashion they are instantly dead.

Not knowing your backstory, you sound like hard work and not someone who is pleasant to be around. If you are always looking for snubs and slights, chances are you'll find them.

twistyizzy · 03/12/2023 17:19

SonwflakesAreForWimps · 03/12/2023 13:05

That access to good education is the key to social mobility and that private/public schools should be banned in pursuance of this goal.

The only hill I will die on is doing the best for my child. In the case of DD this means sending her to private school.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 03/12/2023 17:20

That most people wouldn't lie down on a hill let alone die on it but will pontificate endlessly about their opinions

CrapGoat · 03/12/2023 17:21

Xol · 03/12/2023 17:16

I do find it odd that so many people are claiming the ONE hill they would die on is the trans issue. Really? You wouldn't die on hills such as anti-racism, social justice, eliminating poverty, eliminating disability discrimination, decent health care, etc etc?

I think it is because it is a new(ish) issue, and affecting all women directly. Of course I am against racism, ableism etc-but they don't directly affect all women directly and in such a dangerous way.

I am in a lesbian group on reddit. MEN are in there, showing off their penises. But they've got long hair and make up on so It's fine. Men have given up trying to fight feminism, they've seen we're not backing down so now they're joining us instead. Men are in the loos at work, they're housed in prisons with some of the most vulnerable women in our population-and It's getting worse.

Tessisme · 03/12/2023 17:22

SpeculatingRooks · 03/12/2023 13:53

Reindeers are better than people

They certainly are ... and I've only met about 3!

But <<whispers>> the plural of reindeer is reindeer. I wouldn't usually be a dick about SPAG, but it's that kind of thread😆😆

Jacopo · 03/12/2023 17:22

Queer theory as taught in universities is one massive pile of utter baloney.

DrivingonIce · 03/12/2023 17:24

Kdtym10 · 03/12/2023 17:13

Oxford comma

Or, as Cambridge University Press calls it, the 'serial comma'.

Can't let the Other Place stake a claim to a grammar point, after all.

Silverstoat · 03/12/2023 17:25

Mince pies are perfect as they are and do not need messing with. Calling it a Salted caramel, Biscoff, frangipane, citrus fruit, chocolate mince pie does NOT make it a mince pie. It's just a weird pie with added mincemeat.

ohfook · 03/12/2023 17:26

That we will never solve the problem of climate change when the success or otherwise of a country is measured by its growth.

That the purpose of a government is to take our taxes and use them to improve the quality of life for all of its citizens. I don't trust that our government does that at all.

Rainbowshit · 03/12/2023 17:28

Xol · 03/12/2023 17:16

I do find it odd that so many people are claiming the ONE hill they would die on is the trans issue. Really? You wouldn't die on hills such as anti-racism, social justice, eliminating poverty, eliminating disability discrimination, decent health care, etc etc?

Yes really. It's not even just about female rights. It's about an unscientific, incoherent, illogical ideology being written into law.

To quote Voltaire "Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”