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What is one hill you will die on?

833 replies

whitetip · 03/12/2023 12:59

One opinion that you have that will never waver, no matter what?..

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SpudleyLass · 05/12/2023 22:49

Naptrappedmummy · 05/12/2023 22:47

I really don’t think that’s the sort of scenario Pp was referring to, I didn’t read it that way anyway.

Its absolutely who they were referring to.

''Those who require substantial care and support''.

I've encountered that attitude too many times and I'm no longer afraid to call it out for what it is.

They were being ableist and can fuck right off.

My child would benefit more from education than their ''NT'' children would. We all know the education system requires an overhaul anyway.

HRTQueen · 05/12/2023 22:49

Women should have autonomy over their own bodies

RosePetals86 · 05/12/2023 22:55

That the Covid shots were an absolute scam and I’ve never been happier that I’m stubborn, mistrusting and held my ground. ready to be flamed as a tin hat anti vaxxer and couldn’t care less

Cherrysoup · 06/12/2023 06:57

No judges at rape trials should be male and sentencing should always include, but not be limited to, at least if not physical castration.

Rainbowshit · 06/12/2023 09:14

ZebraDanios · 05/12/2023 22:45

@echt I do accept that exercise benefits most people’s mental health, but I’m always interested in the viewpoint of people who exercise even though they don’t enjoy it, because most people who exercise LOVE it (to the point that for some people it’s basically their personality). So is exercise good for your mental health because doing anything you enjoy is good for your mental health, or is there something special about it (eg blood flow to the brain or something) that makes it good for your mental health even if you hate every moment you’re engaging in it?

(Edited to add that maybe I do actually know lots of people who exercise and don’t love it, but I just don’t know about it because they don’t bang on about it all the time)

Edited

I do a lot of exercise. Soma I love (tennis, skiing). Some I detest (running, HIIT).

I do it because I enjoy feeling strong and fit. So I can do the things I love better. For the feel good endorphins afterwards. Because I know that statistically it makes me more likely to have better quality of life as I age.

Mirabai · 06/12/2023 10:11

ZebraDanios · 05/12/2023 22:45

@echt I do accept that exercise benefits most people’s mental health, but I’m always interested in the viewpoint of people who exercise even though they don’t enjoy it, because most people who exercise LOVE it (to the point that for some people it’s basically their personality). So is exercise good for your mental health because doing anything you enjoy is good for your mental health, or is there something special about it (eg blood flow to the brain or something) that makes it good for your mental health even if you hate every moment you’re engaging in it?

(Edited to add that maybe I do actually know lots of people who exercise and don’t love it, but I just don’t know about it because they don’t bang on about it all the time)

Edited

It doesn’t just benefit mental health, it primarily benefits your physical body. Without it you will lose muscle as muscles deplete if not used, lose bone strength, lose cardiovascular fitness, accrue body fat, deplete immunity, increase risk of disease. But it does also help concentration and sleep and mental well-being.

I think the question would be your emotional reaction to it: why do you hate something so much that is a natural part of being a human and necessary to maintain the body.

LlynTegid · 06/12/2023 10:42

I will never fly with Ryanair.

NearlyMonday · 06/12/2023 11:44

I would have to be desperate before I flew with Ryanair. And I agree that exercise is good for mind and body. It helps that I enjoy it!

oneproudmumma · 06/12/2023 11:56

RosePetals86 · 05/12/2023 22:55

That the Covid shots were an absolute scam and I’ve never been happier that I’m stubborn, mistrusting and held my ground. ready to be flamed as a tin hat anti vaxxer and couldn’t care less

Agree. I never had a single one. My MIL duly had all of them and when I inevitably got Covid she was scared I'd suffer a lot and be really poorly because of it 🤦🏻‍♀️ Ironically, it was vaccinated DH who suffered more!

wineoclock90 · 06/12/2023 12:09

Carouselfish · 03/12/2023 14:06

Nothing justifies inflicting suffering on animals. Not food, not cosmetics, not medicine.

Agree with cosmetics. But will always eat them. Food chain

ZebraDanios · 06/12/2023 12:25

@Mirabai Obviously exercise is good for you physically! What I’m wondering is whether it’s good for your mental health just because you enjoy it (in the same way any hobby is good for your mental health) or whether it is intrinsically beneficial for your mental health whether you enjoy it or not.

As for why I hate it: an entire childhood of terrible experiences of PE can do that to a person. In fact, one hill I would die on is that more children are put off exercise by PE/sports day etc than are inspired or motivated by it.

DrCoconut · 06/12/2023 12:29

Attendance rewards at school are ableist and discriminatory.

Mirabai · 06/12/2023 12:32

ZebraDanios · 06/12/2023 12:25

@Mirabai Obviously exercise is good for you physically! What I’m wondering is whether it’s good for your mental health just because you enjoy it (in the same way any hobby is good for your mental health) or whether it is intrinsically beneficial for your mental health whether you enjoy it or not.

As for why I hate it: an entire childhood of terrible experiences of PE can do that to a person. In fact, one hill I would die on is that more children are put off exercise by PE/sports day etc than are inspired or motivated by it.

I mean I didn’t like PE much at school but that doesn’t seem to me related to going for a walk particularly if it’s in a beautiful place or doing yoga or tai chi or dance/exercise video.

I don’t see what “games” have to do with exercise.

Mirabai · 06/12/2023 12:34

And anyway - I’d never let a long past experience put me off doing something necessary to maintain my health.

Anothernewusername2023 · 06/12/2023 12:44

My child will not front face in her car seat despite her being legally old enough, I'm legally old enough to smoke doesn't mean I should.

ZebraDanios · 06/12/2023 12:59

@Mirabai Good for you.

Mirabai · 06/12/2023 13:04

This isn’t about me. It just seems a bit cut your nose of to spite your face.

If you didn’t like biology at school would you then avoid all doctors?

FatchyPog · 06/12/2023 14:30

The distinction often drawn between mental and physical health is so bizarre, it’s not as if your mind is a separate entity.

VanityDiesHard · 06/12/2023 15:53

That lockdown went on for far, far too long and that schools should never, ever have been closed.

Desecratedcoconut · 06/12/2023 16:00

VanityDiesHard · 06/12/2023 15:53

That lockdown went on for far, far too long and that schools should never, ever have been closed.

Yeah, agreed.

LikeRobbieSays · 06/12/2023 16:07

Yorkshire puddings do not belong on a Christmas dinner

DappledThings · 06/12/2023 16:12

LikeRobbieSays · 06/12/2023 16:07

Yorkshire puddings do not belong on a Christmas dinner

Yorkshire puddings don't belong on any roast dinner unless it's beef. Nothing wrong with roast beef at Christmas in which case Yorkshire pudding whould be acceptable.

gannett · 06/12/2023 16:26

ZebraDanios · 06/12/2023 12:25

@Mirabai Obviously exercise is good for you physically! What I’m wondering is whether it’s good for your mental health just because you enjoy it (in the same way any hobby is good for your mental health) or whether it is intrinsically beneficial for your mental health whether you enjoy it or not.

As for why I hate it: an entire childhood of terrible experiences of PE can do that to a person. In fact, one hill I would die on is that more children are put off exercise by PE/sports day etc than are inspired or motivated by it.

It's good for your mental health regardless of whether you enjoy it, unfortunately.

I do enjoy running in nice weather but I loathe it in the winter. I've just done 15km and I cursed the temperature all the way round. If I don't go for a run I feel worse though - lethargic and enervated. One year I was injured and couldn't exercise for three months and I thought I was going to go out of my head.

I also had awful PE experiences at school and didn't start exercising properly until my mid-20s. The way PE is taught in this country has an awful lot to answer for.

CVVW · 06/12/2023 16:36

Swimming is more enjoyable than running.

ZebraDanios · 06/12/2023 16:38

Mirabai · 06/12/2023 13:04

This isn’t about me. It just seems a bit cut your nose of to spite your face.

If you didn’t like biology at school would you then avoid all doctors?

I’m not convinced that comparison quite works: I might well avoid becoming a doctor if I didn’t like biology, because it’s them doing the biology, not the patient.

I’ll go with it though: I didn’t really like geography at school, but I don’t have a deep and abiding hatred of oxbow lakes. But then I never came very obviously last in a geography test with the whole school and all their parents watching, and I never got picked last in a geography team while the geographers who ended up with me rolled their eyes and said “ugh, not ZebraDanios!”. For some reason none of this happens in subjects other than PE, so it’s not really the same experience.

(All of that said, I’m sure I read somewhere that “deliberate” exercise only compensates for a sedentary job so far, and it’s actually more beneficial just to be as active as possible as you go about your day. I cycle to work where I’m on my feet all day, so I reckon I have a reasonable chance of not dropping dead tomorrow despite not doing a 10K every weekend.)