What is one hill you will die on?

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One opinion that you have that will never waver, no matter what?..

People who smoke while holding a baby or standing next to their child are bad parents. They chose their own satisfaction over the health of their child and they should be ashamed of themselves

@flashbac

Israel is committing war crimes on plain sight.

oh right, what war crimes are they? Notice to quit before bombing. Trying to liberate 250 hostages that are still underground. Working against a terrosit organisation that uses its own people as human shields.

i don’t see you calling ‘war crime’ on the Russians or Ukrainians, the Syrians, the chinese, the Burmese, the Yemen. Maybe think a little bit about why it’s only Israel you take issue with.

oh and my hill is ‘people are waaaay more ignorant, racist and susceptible to propaganda than I would ever have believed.’ I say that as a Jewish woman who is astonished by the level of ignorant spin on Palestine bought you the masses. Ask yourself why you aren’t lobbying for the Rohingya

Same applies to dogs!

That divorce (unless you are at harm) is not in the best interest of the child.

Possibly, but they only get the option until the foetus is 16 weeks, or they have known about the baby for 12 weeks. A once only, irrevocable decision.

In what way are "terfs" silly?

Sorry, meant to attach quote. That was to @VanityDiesHard

That Meninists are silly and are scum, and womens rights are important.

Well then let's get female rights protected and then we can move on. This is never going away until female rights to privacy dignity and safety from males is secured.

That libraries are an essential public service and should be funded well for ever.

Yes, real places with real books despite the amazing online resources we have now.

I think you are misunderstanding the point that many of us are making.

Most women on the FWR thread are also interested in all of the things you list. The problem with the womens rights/ trans issue is that IT is happening so fast and appears to be a major policy for the opposition party that women's rights to single sex spaces will be removed in favour of self ID. This has to be the most pressing issue right now. This is not just in the UK it is world wide. We are seeing rapists in women's prisons, women being refused single sex rape crisis, women losing out to males in sport etc etc, this will get worse not better.

Once the word woman or girl loses all meaning and women and girls don't have a word to describe ourselves that excludes all males then it is harder to fight the other issues too. We won't have correct records on the sex of people who commit crime, the gender / sex pay gap will be impossible to define because some males will be counted as women and those males will have had the benefit of male socialisation and aren't going to be discriminated against for time off for child birth.

Trans rights are a luxury belief. There are not droves of men desperate to identify as women where women don't receive an equal education or where women are oppressed for being women. The exception to this is where homosexuality is illegal.

Roe and Wade did not happen in this country. Most women who believe that women should have rights also believe in abortion at any time for any reason.

And yes the patriarchy has done a number on women, by the Western World adopting men's rights activism even though this demonstrably harms women and children.

'Terfs' did not start this thread, though. Mumsnet users have been asked a question and all users are entitled to answer it

What websites do you read?

That adults need to protect children from harm.

This means that despite having a young trans relative I am disgusted by those who sell children the lie that they can change sex. @Menomeno I am very sorry for your child because they have permanently damaged their health and for both of you that you have swallowed lies about hatred and vulnerability. My young trans relative is same sex attracted and like a number of young people struggled with their mental health. They could have been happily and healthily gay instead of being encouraged by homophobes and misogynists to think they needed to damage their healthy body. This is a medical scandal to rival thalidomide or contaminated blood.

If you and your child encourage other children to believe these lies then you are also encouraging children to harm themselves. It's as bad as telling anorexics to starve themselves.

That Israel will always freely be supported in their quest to colonise, barricade and exterminate the Palestinian people. NOT because of the October the 7th and NOT because of the holocaust, but because they are essentially an extension of the American military and serve the USA's Middle East agenda.

As soon as I saw the thread title I just knew that there would be a significant number of anti-trans posts.

What a heavy thread!!! Mine was going to be that Phoebe and Mike weren’t suited in Friends!!!

Trans men are women and don't have a penis so are not a threat to women. If you're a woman you'd understand this.

@SonwflakesAreForWimps That access to good education is the key to social mobility and that private/public schools should be banned in pursuance of this goal.

As a single mum, I have scrimped to send my ds to a private school, probably meaning I will retire 10 years later, with a depleted pension fund because Ofsted said children attending the state school we were offered a place at 'were at risk of sexual assault by older pupils' and set about winding up the trust.

My hill to die on is that I will protect my child, and someone else's principles aren't going to get in the way of that.

Don't judge without knowing the circumstances.

There is never any justification for taking children as hostages. No matter how people spin it and the reasons they give, that is the hill I'll die on.

Fuck off @CatMadam you don't get to call me silly! There is no hatred, I don't hate anyone or wish them harm! And womens rights are important to me and many others!

THIS one.

Just because I disagree with you, it doesn't mean I've misunderstood the point. I respect your right to have a different opinion to me, because I think women should have agency to disagree respectfully and with grace.

Absolutely - but I wasn't sure if that was two hills😁

Trans people are not discriminated against, in fact, they are the safest, most POWERFUL and privileged group and have the lowest of death rates. Biological women have the HIGHEST death rates and are threatened with RAPE for merely wanting a safe space.