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Paris Hilton surrogacy

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geevesask · 30/11/2023 19:46

"Surrogacy was a difficult decision to make," she admitted.
"I would have loved that experience of growing the baby in your tummy and feeling the kicks and all of those exciting moments, but my life has just been so public," she continued. "So even though the baby is biologically mine and Carter's, we decided to have a surrogate carry him."

What does that even mean ? What does being in the public eye have to do with carrying your own child ?

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Dowhadiddydiddydum · 30/11/2023 22:03

ASGIRC · 30/11/2023 21:26

Because being pregnant is not all roses, and when you have actual trauma linked to abuse, and medical exams, then being pregnant is really not the one!

I can tell you for free, that if I could have chosen, I would NOT be carrying my child.
being pregnant certainly FEELS like an illness, even if it isnt!
And I love my baby! I cant wait to have her in my arms! But not having to be pregnant would be much better!
And the amount of complications that can happen during pregnancy...

I dont blame Paris Hilton at all.

Im not sure what the point of your thread is, though...

You’re absolutely right about how traumatising and risky pregnancy and birth can be. Which is exactly why many people don’t think it is right that wealthy people pass this risk on to poorer people simply because they can afford to.

HollowEgg · 30/11/2023 22:04

Her mother has alluded to her fertility issues. I don’t believe it was a first option.

babysharkdoodoodedoodedoo · 30/11/2023 22:07

So what? If I had the money I’d definitely have more babies via surrogate.

babysharkdoodoodedoodedoo · 30/11/2023 22:08

Dowhadiddydiddydum · 30/11/2023 22:03

You’re absolutely right about how traumatising and risky pregnancy and birth can be. Which is exactly why many people don’t think it is right that wealthy people pass this risk on to poorer people simply because they can afford to.

I’m sure those people who feel like that wouldn’t sign up to be surrogates. It’s kind of patronising that you don’t trust women to be able to make their own decisions about their own bodies.

MissyB1 · 30/11/2023 22:11

Floopani · 30/11/2023 20:22

Everyone should take the best journey to parenthood for them. As long as everyone involved is happy and has capacity to make decisions, it's no one else's business.

Also, who gives a fuck about being very very frowned upon. Medical reasons are no excuse? Who exactly are these grown people seeking approval from the masses?

“The best journey to parenthood for them”

What exploiting other women’s bodies? Child trafficking? Ordering a baby like a parcel from Amazon?

How entitled can people get 🤦‍♀️

Floopani · 30/11/2023 22:15

MissyB1 · 30/11/2023 22:11

“The best journey to parenthood for them”

What exploiting other women’s bodies? Child trafficking? Ordering a baby like a parcel from Amazon?

How entitled can people get 🤦‍♀️

You conveniently missed out the part where I talked about capacity and consent in order to fit your narrative.

Dowhadiddydiddydum · 30/11/2023 22:17

babysharkdoodoodedoodedoo · 30/11/2023 22:08

I’m sure those people who feel like that wouldn’t sign up to be surrogates. It’s kind of patronising that you don’t trust women to be able to make their own decisions about their own bodies.

People who feel like what? Anyone can have awful illness in pregnancy, have long lasting medical issues from birth or trauma from birth. Nothing to do with how people feel.

Is it patronising to not trust people to choose if they want to sell their organs? Or patronising to refer to prostitution as exploitative because the odd person genuinely enters it willingly and happily.

Im not concerned about the very small number of people who do surrogacy as an active and willing choice, I’m concerned for the many more women who get into it because they are impoverished, vulnerable women exploited in to it. I’ll believe the “it’s a choice” line when I see wealthy women from rich countries being surrogates for poorer women from poorer countries.

LadyBird1973 · 30/11/2023 22:36

It's not prioritising the baby, and surrogacy generally exploits poor women. It's all about rich people buying children.

petermaddog · 30/11/2023 22:46

no it is not just wealthy
oldest friend could not (cancer)she now as a beautiful boy
she always wanted baby the momtoo as she is called was short on money to finish med school

hes my godson
nasty people again

LadyBird1973 · 30/11/2023 23:00

I feel really sorry for people who genuinely cannot have babies and I understand why they go down the surrogacy route. But that doesn't change the facts about surrogacy itself and it's not nasty to point those facts out.
And there is a difference between needing help because you can't carry a baby and just choosing to opt out because it's easier if some other woman risks her life or health for you!

crumblingschools · 30/11/2023 23:10

Does the baby have the choice of being born by surrogacy?

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 30/11/2023 23:16

twirlywoop · 30/11/2023 20:03

Aw that's quite sad she felt like that

It's even bloody sadder she can feel like that and go and rent a womb out! Even sadder that it's legal.

crumblingschools · 30/11/2023 23:21

It’s quite invasive to retrieve eggs?

fatherliamdeliverance · 30/11/2023 23:26

Perhaps she was concerned about the increased risk to herself, tiny son and unborn baby from paparazzi attention compared to an anonymous surrogate with presumably the best of healthcare? She came up in the Britney Spears era after all, not sure whether they're that intrusive now and I know she courted it at the time but she may have been worried about traffic accidents etc. No idea whether she's had any stalkers or anything.

Not saying I agree with surrogacy but this may have been her thinking and it is legal for her.

Or a vague cover all for fertility issues. She's not the youngest mum.

AngryBirdsNoMore · 30/11/2023 23:29

FatFilledTrottyPuss · 30/11/2023 20:05

So she didn’t want to be hounded by the paps during a pregnancy? What does she plan on doing if they hound her while she’s out with her baby, outsource parenting to another woman too?
FFS, It was bad enough when rich women were too posh to push and with Paris Hilton’s track record of collecting and discarding cute small animals I dread to think what this poor child’s upbringing will be like.

Err. What’s wrong with choosing a c section?

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 30/11/2023 23:38

This post shows exactly how her personal life is scrutinised surely.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 30/11/2023 23:39

crumblingschools · 30/11/2023 23:10

Does the baby have the choice of being born by surrogacy?

Does any baby have a choice to be born?

MeinKraft · 30/11/2023 23:39

Does it count as buying a baby if the baby is your own biological child?

crumblingschools · 30/11/2023 23:42

@Whatevershallidowithmylife okay did the baby have the choice of being taken away from it’s birth mother?

JessieLongleg · 30/11/2023 23:46

Doesn't want to be hounded by paps but put baby online straight away. She should of said more of the truth which is miscarriage levels go down with younger body, saves plastic surgery and she can get more quicker, she has the money so why not. But she makes herself a victim.

pizzaHeart · 30/11/2023 23:49

SingingSands · 30/11/2023 20:17

I think at that level of "celebrity" she might just be used to getting what she wants without the effort.

I know, that sounds incredibly bitchy. I'm almost embarrassed to say it. But, by not being pregnant, she could still work/party/travel/model/dj/whatever she wanted without restriction. And then accept delivery of the baby just as she would accept delivery of any other product she had ordered.

It's a messed up way of thinking, but ultra rich people have the luxury of choices like this. Literally anything can be bought.

I absolutely agree with this^
She did it because she could afford it. It was just quicker and simpler than trying to get pregnant herself. She is 42, obviously it makes her chances lower plus pregnancy and labour itself are not a joy, there are certain health risks so she “opted out” as one of PPs noticed.

EveSix · 30/11/2023 23:58

I’ll believe the “it’s a choice” line when I see wealthy women from rich countries being surrogates for poorer women from poorer countries.
DoWahDiddy, spot on.

TheUsualChaos · 01/12/2023 00:02

geevesask · 30/11/2023 19:46

"Surrogacy was a difficult decision to make," she admitted.
"I would have loved that experience of growing the baby in your tummy and feeling the kicks and all of those exciting moments, but my life has just been so public," she continued. "So even though the baby is biologically mine and Carter's, we decided to have a surrogate carry him."

What does that even mean ? What does being in the public eye have to do with carrying your own child ?

It means she didn't want to inflict pregnancy on her body so paid a significantly poorer woman to do it for her. Why do people try and make out that this is in any way an acceptable way for a rich, privileged couple to behave?
No doubt the vast majority of childcare will be carried out by paid help as well. Just what is the fucking point?

Tryingmybestadhd · 01/12/2023 00:04

SkyFullofStars1975 · 30/11/2023 20:05

She's a legend in her own mind. Plenty of celebs hide pregnancies if and when they want to. She's still bought a baby at the end of the day.

Vile thing to say . That baby is still hers , she still did part if the ivf process and she still is that babies mother

Neitheronethingnortheother · 01/12/2023 00:04

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 30/11/2023 20:11

Probably just doesn't want to stretch her own vagina .

I disagree with surrogacy but this still seems like a particularly distasteful comment for a woman who was routinely punished as a child with forced cervical examinations

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