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Awake stewing at 3am due to disgraceful party etiquette

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Anonymouse2019 · 27/11/2023 03:50

It was recently my daughter's 4th birthday party. She attends a nursery preschool and she is one of the eldest so most of the other children are still 3 years old.

We didn't know who her closest friends were when writing invitations about 6 weeks ago so decided to invite the whole class of 18 kids. 13 RSVP'd, 10 of those could come.

With the invitations addressed to the children, we included a little note for parents/guardians with a bit more info about the venue and a little bit about our child which was relevant to the party. We also stated that a gift for our child wasn't necessary and that their child's company would be the best gift for our little girl (mainly that was us being diplomatic in a COL crisis) BUT we said if their child wanted to give or make a card for our daughter, that would be lovely and that we would keep them in her memory box for when she was a bit older (after she'd opened them, obviously).

Also in this note we said that the entrance fee and lunch for their child was covered but if the invited child wished to bring siblings, the parent/guardian would need to purchase food at the venue for that/those siblings.

I'll get to the point now.

One mum of a boy, F, replied saying he could attend. She did bring her child to the party and she also brought the child's older cousin (not invited as not a sibling but anyway...). Cousin was 8 years old.

F's older cousin sat down with the invited younger children and was helping himself to party food when we'd specifically said non-imvited children must have meals paid for separately by parents. The adult with them stood there and did nothing but I didn't realise until the meal was nearly over because there was so much going on in the room. Several other kids brought siblings and ALL their parents paid for those siblings' meals except for F's mother.

F was a pushy, grabby bully. He was pushing the other invited children about with no interference from his mum. I was wrapping cupcakes in clean napkins to add to the children's party bags (after they'd already had some birthday cake) and F came over and started grabbing at the cupcakes, running the icing and details on 4 or 5 of them. I very gently said these were to take home, they were not for now but he could have some more birthday cake instead. He started to scream. Not wanting other guests/parents to think I was hurting this child or being mean, I gave him a cupcake (one he'd ruined by trying to grab them) and he disappeared with it. No other children did this.

At the end of the day, they were the only guests not to say goodbye, or thank you for inviting them. More importantly they didn't wish my daughter a happy birthday or acknowledge her at all.

We came away with a small stack of cards and a couple of presents which was lovely. My child opened them later at home. None of them were from F.

F had taken home, as had all the other invited guests, a party bag put together by me, which contained some children's colouring stuff, a pot of bubbles, sweets, mini packet of biscuits and a little rubber stamp, plus the cupcake. Of course it was our choice to provide these and we were happy to.

So, F's cousin got a free meal when he shouldn't have (there wasn't plenty to go round either!), he got an extra cupcake and ruined several others which had to be thrown away, they didn't acknowledge our daughter in any way and didn't make or buy her a card. They also didn't say goodbye and I'm fact slipped out without us realising right at the end. F's behaviour was also disgusting yet he got his party bag and everything else paid for by us.

I woke at 3am thinking about the injustice of this and have been wondering if I should hand his mum a note on the school run, or even invoice her for the cousin's meal and the ruined cupcakes, but for the sake of about £10 it doesn't seem worth the bad feeling and aggro for every school run hereon in, however letting the mother get away with all this scot-free to me is not okay either.

Obviously we know not to invite F to anything again, but should I say something in private away from kids and other parents to his mum or is that a step too far?

OP posts:
flowerchild2000 · 29/11/2023 22:50

sunglassesonthetable · 29/11/2023 22:46

Negative? The irony ??😂😂😂 Honestly you couldn't make it up.

@flowerchild2000

It's amazing how many of you inferred meaning into my words that aren't there. You're so negative you can't even see the positives anymore. It's quite sad.

cockadoodledandy · 29/11/2023 22:54

flowerchild2000 · 29/11/2023 22:03

I don't think you understand what privilege means. You sound like a very negative person. Lighten up, smell the roses. Exactly what I said to OP. Be thankful for what you have.

I assure you I’m not negative at all and know exactly what privilege means. Do you? Because saving for a child’s birthday party is perfectly normal and not even remotely indicative of privilege.

flowerchild2000 · 29/11/2023 22:55

cockadoodledandy · 29/11/2023 22:54

I assure you I’m not negative at all and know exactly what privilege means. Do you? Because saving for a child’s birthday party is perfectly normal and not even remotely indicative of privilege.

Oh dear. So having money is not a privilege?

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

sunglassesonthetable · 29/11/2023 22:55

So everyone else got it wrong. 🤣

Keep digging.

cockadoodledandy · 29/11/2023 22:57

flowerchild2000 · 29/11/2023 22:50

It's amazing how many of you inferred meaning into my words that aren't there. You're so negative you can't even see the positives anymore. It's quite sad.

What you said was that simply because someone had managed to save (save, not fund without thinking where it’s coming from) for a child’s birthday party, they were privileged. Which suggests that ‘other people’ can’t do that and this person should think themselves lucky. Which is rubbish. If we’re entering a time where perfectly normal activities like kids parties are now seen as privileges then I can’t even imagine what else is classed as privileged and judged for.

flowerchild2000 · 29/11/2023 23:00

cockadoodledandy · 29/11/2023 22:57

What you said was that simply because someone had managed to save (save, not fund without thinking where it’s coming from) for a child’s birthday party, they were privileged. Which suggests that ‘other people’ can’t do that and this person should think themselves lucky. Which is rubbish. If we’re entering a time where perfectly normal activities like kids parties are now seen as privileges then I can’t even imagine what else is classed as privileged and judged for.

I didn't say that. If you put half as much effort into reading comprehension that you put into your rants you might understand.

sunglassesonthetable · 29/11/2023 23:05

Oh come off it @flowerchild2000

You came over as snarky and rude. And lots of posters have called you out on it . Obviously you can keep on that it's everyone else's problem.

But hey, everyone can see it's not.

Why is what someone else says " a rant " But it's not when you post? Don't bother with the abuse.

flowerchild2000 · 29/11/2023 23:14

sunglassesonthetable · 29/11/2023 23:05

Oh come off it @flowerchild2000

You came over as snarky and rude. And lots of posters have called you out on it . Obviously you can keep on that it's everyone else's problem.

But hey, everyone can see it's not.

Why is what someone else says " a rant " But it's not when you post? Don't bother with the abuse.

No I've had the same comments over and over, that money isn't privilege. That's a fact you can't change though. What's really funny is I have countless thanks on my posts on this thread.

NattyNatashia · 29/11/2023 23:16

Bad behaviour but you need to let it go, it's really not important. Don't invite them again.

cockadoodledandy · 29/11/2023 23:20

flowerchild2000 · 29/11/2023 23:00

I didn't say that. If you put half as much effort into reading comprehension that you put into your rants you might understand.

I typed a reply but then realised I don’t actually care. Your opinion is worthless to anyone other than yourself.

flowerchild2000 · 29/11/2023 23:22

cockadoodledandy · 29/11/2023 23:20

I typed a reply but then realised I don’t actually care. Your opinion is worthless to anyone other than yourself.

Why do I have so many thanks? And how low does your self esteem have to be to call someone else worthless? In a forum where the entire objective is to gather opinions? Hmm...

sunglassesonthetable · 29/11/2023 23:39

No I've had the same comments over and over, that money isn't privilege. That's a fact you can't change though. What's really funny is I have countless thanks on my posts on this thread.

Of course money is a privilege. Duh.

But it's also irrelevant to OP's situation. Well not unless you wanted to shoe horn in a bit of snark and put her down.

I don't suppose there are many on MN who would qualify on your terms,
" you're obviously privileged " so your feelings don't count.

Literally who is NOT privileged here, tapping away on computers and phones. So NO problems allowed.

sunglassesonthetable · 29/11/2023 23:42

What's really funny is I have countless thanks on my posts on this thread.

Yes hilarious. Funny as you've pretty much only had negative comments.

anon666 · 30/11/2023 00:12

Honestly, what nonsense @flowerchild2000

"Money is a privilege". Good grief, OP having the money to hold a kids party is now being remarked as privilege.

What a load of attention seeking nonsense. You seem to just want to claim some kind of virtue signalling for pointing this out, as if it somehow diminishes a family turning up and ruining her DC's party with bad manners and behaviour.

Then instead of backing down, you've doubled down on it and fighting anyone who dares to disagree with nastiness.

You've detailed a perfectly sensible thread.

flowerchild2000 · 30/11/2023 00:19

anon666 · 30/11/2023 00:12

Honestly, what nonsense @flowerchild2000

"Money is a privilege". Good grief, OP having the money to hold a kids party is now being remarked as privilege.

What a load of attention seeking nonsense. You seem to just want to claim some kind of virtue signalling for pointing this out, as if it somehow diminishes a family turning up and ruining her DC's party with bad manners and behaviour.

Then instead of backing down, you've doubled down on it and fighting anyone who dares to disagree with nastiness.

You've detailed a perfectly sensible thread.

Maybe you should look up the definition of privilege.

flowerchild2000 · 30/11/2023 00:24

@anon666

It's really strange to enter into a public forum and then expect others to change their opinions based on yours. It simply will never happen. That kind of thinking goes against the whole idea, so not sure what you're doing here. I get to express my thoughts like everyone else. Your expectations are wild!

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 00:30

You're being really strange@flowerchild2000 !

God alive! Why are you banging on about privilege anyway? Go and start your own thread ?

You just wanted a snark.

Tourmalines · 30/11/2023 00:36

flowerchild2000 · 29/11/2023 23:14

No I've had the same comments over and over, that money isn't privilege. That's a fact you can't change though. What's really funny is I have countless thanks on my posts on this thread.

yes , it is funny .

KarmaBrigade · 30/11/2023 00:40

But did this 3-year-old really "ruin" your daughter's birthday party? Was your daughter having fun or was she crying because of the stuff F was doing?

This post is all about your feelings and the stress you felt. F's family were rude--but also, F is 3 years old. This is an age where bad behaviour like being pushy and grabbing treats is not uncommon. I wouldn't even say it's the child's fault at that age, but the parent's fault for not setting firm boundaries about the appropriate way to act in a social setting. In any case, it's not something of such a serious nature that it should be keeping you up at night. Don't invite them to parties in the future, keep in mind that your daughter (most likely) was happy at her party, and move on.

Geneve82 · 30/11/2023 06:10

lots of “thanks” @flowerchild2000

go on then…. screen shot one of your posts with loads of “thanks”……

nope, didn’t think you would 😂

Geneve82 · 30/11/2023 06:12

flowerchild2000 · 29/11/2023 22:03

I don't think you understand what privilege means. You sound like a very negative person. Lighten up, smell the roses. Exactly what I said to OP. Be thankful for what you have.

let’s not forget you also said “you must be very uptight!!” immediately before you’re very “positive” “you are very privileged”

MumOfOneAwesomeHuman · 30/11/2023 07:32

I feel your pain. It’s so upsetting when you’ve put so much effort in to making your child’s day special and one badly patented child ruins it. Hopefully yours

With 16 years of birthdays behind us I would say we quickly learned smaller birthday outings and select friends, strictly no siblings is the way to go. We had two ruined parties in a row where nasty bullies in DDs class ruined her special day. I’ll never forget the child who brought her a box of chocolates as a gift, proceeded to unwrap and eat the lot in front of her! Or the girl who shoved my DD down the stairs to reach the entertainment first.

There will always be nasty, badly raised kids who’s parents never intervene so best to avoid them ruining the day by having a smaller group of known friends and then you can spend the money on a nicer event (trip to the zoo, cinema, go ape when a bit older) and nicer food, maybe eating out in a favourite place. And you’ll know your child will have fun with their real friends.

I appreciate as you say it can be hard to know who they are at this age.

For now I would chalk this one up to experience and avoid F like the plague going forward. Steer your child clear of F if you can because clearly the parenting is terrible and you don’t want your DD getting close to them and going there for future play dates.

Hope DD had a lovely time and was oblivious to this rude obnoxious child and their equally rude parent!

TheaBrandt · 30/11/2023 08:41

God just wait until she’s 17 and having parties / you will long for the days of a mashed cup cake!

Notimeforidiots69 · 30/11/2023 09:54

He's 8, if you read the post properly... And not invited... And thoroughly rude! Along with his aunt! I suggest you read the original post again, before jumping in!

Lotstodotoday · 30/11/2023 10:24

The child being described as the badly behaved bully is three @Notimeforidiots69.