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House is still a shithole. Pic included

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Shithole101 · 17/11/2023 21:51

A few weeks or so back I posted pics of bedrooms in my house. They were a shithole. Me/kids have managed to keep the bedrooms tidy /reasonable.

But my stairs and living room are a mess. I could probably have it all sorted in a couple of hours. But it feels like the end of the world. I feel so drained. And even when i do start doing it something really silly can happen then I feel like giving up.

Or like a few weeks back I started feeling really positive. And got loads done . But after that period of positive cleaning. I won't get that feeling back for a while and just stop.

It should be really simple but it does not feel like it.

I only get a bath /shower once a week sometimes less. I could smell myself earlier and all I did was use baby wipes under my arms and a bit of deodorant.

Anyway I have added photos again . To Shame myself into actually cleaning up .

House is still a shithole. Pic included
House is still a shithole. Pic included
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ilovemyspace · 19/11/2023 23:04

OP, maybe start off small and set aside just 15 minutes of 'Me Time' where you don't have to think about anything else or anybody else.
Whether this is having a cup of tea in bed in the morning before you start the day, or at lunchtime where you sit with a magazine /read a bit of a book, or when you get in from work or just sit and do nothing if that's what you want.
It doesn't matter when you do it, but promise yourself those 15 minutes every single day to just breathe and have a little oasis of calm.

And then, in time, maybe you can start to think of things you'd like to do that make you happy - watch a film, have a special coffee. paint your nails, ring a friend.

It's little steps at first - but try and put yourself first at least once every day

Shithole101 · 19/11/2023 23:12

ilovemyspace · 19/11/2023 23:04

OP, maybe start off small and set aside just 15 minutes of 'Me Time' where you don't have to think about anything else or anybody else.
Whether this is having a cup of tea in bed in the morning before you start the day, or at lunchtime where you sit with a magazine /read a bit of a book, or when you get in from work or just sit and do nothing if that's what you want.
It doesn't matter when you do it, but promise yourself those 15 minutes every single day to just breathe and have a little oasis of calm.

And then, in time, maybe you can start to think of things you'd like to do that make you happy - watch a film, have a special coffee. paint your nails, ring a friend.

It's little steps at first - but try and put yourself first at least once every day

I get what your saying. It just feels hopeless because I can't even get a shower without there being some sort of issue. I will try though. Thank you

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SequentialAnalyst · 19/11/2023 23:33

@captainjacksparrow seems to think she is OP's social worker. She is not.

Does she go round her friends' houses pointing out trip hazards?
Or trawl the Mental Health board posting helpful comments about the state of people's houses?

ilovemyspace · 19/11/2023 23:59

I get what your saying. It just feels hopeless because I can't even get a shower without there being some sort of issue. I will try though. Thank you,

Well, if it doesn't work the first day don't give up! It'll work eventually :)
Would it help if you had some sort of plan for the following day? Just one thing eg hoover round (or even plan to do nothing). It may help you feel more in control if you've decided what you're doing instead if just looking at everything and wondering where to start.
OP, my heart goes out to you! But, you CAN do it!! x

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 20/11/2023 01:08

Op when I was in the trenches of new born life and sleep deprivation I was gifted an instant pot pressure cooker thingymajig, and using it to cook one pot meals was a life saver.

I'm sure they could have been better quality, pasta a bit less soggy, meat a bit less flaky sometimes, but more often than not it was a life saver as it was cooked in one pot and washed in one pot.

Buying pre-chopped veggies from freezer shop just to throw in was also a life saver to make sure I was getting something green in the system. Freezer bag meats too.

This, and compostable paper plates for the compost bin were a life saver.

It sounds like your circumstances may be chronic illness mentally or physically or a mix of the 2.

Don't know if you're looking for solutions but I found this to be a big help for me personally.

Shithole101 · 20/11/2023 01:12

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 20/11/2023 01:08

Op when I was in the trenches of new born life and sleep deprivation I was gifted an instant pot pressure cooker thingymajig, and using it to cook one pot meals was a life saver.

I'm sure they could have been better quality, pasta a bit less soggy, meat a bit less flaky sometimes, but more often than not it was a life saver as it was cooked in one pot and washed in one pot.

Buying pre-chopped veggies from freezer shop just to throw in was also a life saver to make sure I was getting something green in the system. Freezer bag meats too.

This, and compostable paper plates for the compost bin were a life saver.

It sounds like your circumstances may be chronic illness mentally or physically or a mix of the 2.

Don't know if you're looking for solutions but I found this to be a big help for me personally.

Thank you. I already have a preasure cooker
Have spread mafe must of the meals for this week

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Pinkpinkpink15 · 20/11/2023 03:09

Aria999 · 18/11/2023 17:18

@Cinty6 I tried that for a bit (inspired by Marie Kondo) but I'm not very good at knowing. The problem with being a natural hoarder is that you have to force yourself to make tough choices and you can get it wrong.

I had massive regret about one or two things I sent to the charity shop but I couldn't get them back.

@Aria999

try listening to Dana K White's pod casts or watch her YouTubes.

she has an entirely different process and it takes the emotion out of 'deciding'

Pinkpinkpink15 · 20/11/2023 04:22

@Shithole101

its a shame some people can't just STFU. Being 'reticent' to post should have pause for thought, but obviously not.

you have more 'stuff' & stress going on in your life than most of us could handle, yet here you are absolutely bossing it.

No actual & decent SW/manager would have an issue with your house. As you well know due to the ones you've had/have in your life.

I'm sorry you felt it necessary to explain about your older DS & DD.

it's weird though, your 'before' photos show rooms that really don't look like long term neglect or major problems. The bedrooms in particular look 'post play date ' state!

the lounge was 'messy' but again looks like a quick tidy would soon sort it. You don't have hoarding level chaos.

an illness or 'situation' can easily make everything massively over whelming.

I understand you not wanting people in the house. But many of us would willing help you out without any judgement & without questioning you about how things 'got out of hand'. 'Don't let some judgemental people stop you letting other people help.

i hope your older DS is doing much better now & hope DD manages to get that bloke behind bars so she can relax a bit.

right, let's get YOUR thread back on a positive note (hopefully some posters can just keep their thoughts to themselves!! If not we can just ignore them!!)

it sounds like you have a busy week, but maybe you can commit to a 2/5/10 minute pick up each day, it doesn't seem like much, but it does help

Dana K White

'progress & only progress'

Better. (Not perfect, BETTER)

xx

MyNewGenericUsername · 20/11/2023 08:06

I'm not a SW but work in a related field, some of the points (particularly all added together) would be a 'cause for concern' for professionals (in fact most of the points are raised in the Graded Care Profile Tool).

But what a lot of professionals, including social workers, don't really pay enough attention to is the fact that some parents have extremely stressful lives that the majority of us would struggle to cope with. They also don't often understand the enormous stress and harm social work intervention can bring to families which have loving homes but difficult circumstances. I've seen it with my own eyes how families will be just getting by in less than ideal situations and social workers pile in and don't actually offer any practical help but do end up causing a lot of stress.

Ultimately, we can't really know the ins and outs of OPs situation, but it does sound as if it is extraordinarily stressful. Stressful situations with lack of support can lead to really bad outcomes for children. Unfortunately you have to shout very loud for any real help, which is difficult because the people who need the help most have the least time, money and energy to shout for it. Could your younger children's school offer play therapy for what sounds like a really traumatic DV situation and moving home? Are you still a carer for your older son with mental health problems - could you get a carer's assessment?

What support do you need to keep house relatively tidy, yourself clean and reduce the number of takeaways long term?

Thekidsarefightingagain · 20/11/2023 08:22

I have seen firsthand how very competent parents undergo intolerable stress over an extended period of time and things understandably slide. Of course it's going to. SWs unfortunately do sometimes judge things like state of the house, not offering support but only criticism which simply isn't helpful. And suddenly these very competent parents can find themselves accused of neglect. It's alarming how often this can happen and it can happen to anyone.

OP has posted on here for support and is being proactive. Surely this is a good sign and support and encouragement should be given. It's hard to understand what OP is going through unless you've been through it yourself.

Shithole101 · 20/11/2023 08:29

Pinkpinkpink15 · 20/11/2023 04:22

@Shithole101

its a shame some people can't just STFU. Being 'reticent' to post should have pause for thought, but obviously not.

you have more 'stuff' & stress going on in your life than most of us could handle, yet here you are absolutely bossing it.

No actual & decent SW/manager would have an issue with your house. As you well know due to the ones you've had/have in your life.

I'm sorry you felt it necessary to explain about your older DS & DD.

it's weird though, your 'before' photos show rooms that really don't look like long term neglect or major problems. The bedrooms in particular look 'post play date ' state!

the lounge was 'messy' but again looks like a quick tidy would soon sort it. You don't have hoarding level chaos.

an illness or 'situation' can easily make everything massively over whelming.

I understand you not wanting people in the house. But many of us would willing help you out without any judgement & without questioning you about how things 'got out of hand'. 'Don't let some judgemental people stop you letting other people help.

i hope your older DS is doing much better now & hope DD manages to get that bloke behind bars so she can relax a bit.

right, let's get YOUR thread back on a positive note (hopefully some posters can just keep their thoughts to themselves!! If not we can just ignore them!!)

it sounds like you have a busy week, but maybe you can commit to a 2/5/10 minute pick up each day, it doesn't seem like much, but it does help

Dana K White

'progress & only progress'

Better. (Not perfect, BETTER)

xx

Thank you . Yeah none of the mess has been long term . There's nothing manky in the room. No food or anything like that .it was just generally trashed and since I cleaned it. They have kept it reasonable which I'm shocked about. Even teen dd asked for a bag to clean her room yesterday. I never even had to ask and there was no attitude or anything.

I think your right, I think it just feels more overwhelming because I find simple things hard and the longer to do because I have to keep stopping.

In a way though its kind of positive because I'm now worrying about the house trying to keep on top of it. Hopefully soon to make it more homely. Before that I had so much going on that was much more important now that's starting to disolve a little its leaving me room to think about other stuff such as the house.

Yeah social services have never had concerns about my house. GS/DD sw been to my house many times. Sometimes things have happened last minute so I have not had time to clean /tidy . She's seen the kids bedrooms simlar to the photo I showed along with kids in action trashing it.

Dd ex is in prison at the moment. He gos in for a few months, comes out breaks restraining order within a week . Ends up back in prison over and over again he makes threats to professionals As well. Social services have been about for a long time because of the risk he poses.

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Shithole101 · 20/11/2023 09:12

Thekidsarefightingagain · 20/11/2023 08:22

I have seen firsthand how very competent parents undergo intolerable stress over an extended period of time and things understandably slide. Of course it's going to. SWs unfortunately do sometimes judge things like state of the house, not offering support but only criticism which simply isn't helpful. And suddenly these very competent parents can find themselves accused of neglect. It's alarming how often this can happen and it can happen to anyone.

OP has posted on here for support and is being proactive. Surely this is a good sign and support and encouragement should be given. It's hard to understand what OP is going through unless you've been through it yourself.

Yes some SW are awful make things worse for the family. Then the family never ask for help again ... maybe that's the aim. But there are lovely SW as well who are a god send and have helped families into a better situation build their confidence and made them feel strong again.

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MyNewGenericUsername · 20/11/2023 09:18

Shithole101 · 20/11/2023 09:12

Yes some SW are awful make things worse for the family. Then the family never ask for help again ... maybe that's the aim. But there are lovely SW as well who are a god send and have helped families into a better situation build their confidence and made them feel strong again.

A woman I know was nearly killed by her ex, she proactively got police and sw involved and did everything they asked. She said she would never advise any other woman to ask for help from Children’s Services. Leave the man, yes, flee to the other side of the country, yes, but ask for 'help', no. A sw even accidentally leaked her new address to the ex so they had to move all over again. Anyone who thinks 'professionals' always get it right only has to read the news to know this isn't true...

Anyway, derailed a bit. So glad you are committed to making long term changes OP.

Shithole101 · 20/11/2023 09:25

MyNewGenericUsername · 20/11/2023 09:18

A woman I know was nearly killed by her ex, she proactively got police and sw involved and did everything they asked. She said she would never advise any other woman to ask for help from Children’s Services. Leave the man, yes, flee to the other side of the country, yes, but ask for 'help', no. A sw even accidentally leaked her new address to the ex so they had to move all over again. Anyone who thinks 'professionals' always get it right only has to read the news to know this isn't true...

Anyway, derailed a bit. So glad you are committed to making long term changes OP.

I don't think its uncommon.court papers given to dd ex had dd temporary address on the paper work .

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Thekidsarefightingagain · 20/11/2023 09:30

Glad to hear that there are lovely SWs out there OP.

I also don't see why you're being criticized over takeaways and sandwiches. I have a child with an extremely restricted diet and was told to just give him pasta if that's all he'll eat.

Shithole101 · 20/11/2023 09:36

Thekidsarefightingagain · 20/11/2023 09:30

Glad to hear that there are lovely SWs out there OP.

I also don't see why you're being criticized over takeaways and sandwiches. I have a child with an extremely restricted diet and was told to just give him pasta if that's all he'll eat.

Yes there are . It's just the ones who are not can cause alot of damage.

Yeah one of my ds has asd. He can be very hit and miss with food sometimes he will only eat plain white rice or dry bread. I still do him a portion of food though on the hope he changes his mind. Sometimes he will as long as we don't say anything

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Xenia · 20/11/2023 09:39

It looks clean to me, just the stairs are a bit messy but that's not a big deal. I would probably remove tripping hazards. Even just talking about it on here shows very good sense and coping fine even if it is very hard.

I was a very fussy eater as a child, no crusts on bread, no butter or gravy ever etc - it certainly makes life hard for parents, although I turned out fine in the end (but I still don't have gravy!)

MyNewGenericUsername · 20/11/2023 10:19

Also, do they get school dinners? Presumably if they're having a holiday dinner at lunch sandwiches are absolutely fine for dinner?

With ASD it's really important to honour their sensory sensitivities as well as continuing to offer other healthy foods, just like you said OP.

MyNewGenericUsername · 20/11/2023 10:19

*hot dinner not holiday dinner!

Isheabastard · 20/11/2023 10:37

Couldn’t see if this has been asked, but how old are you op, you mention adult and children DC?

The reason I ask is because I got that breathless feeling going upstairs, vacuuming, anything really. I was menopausal. My fatigue was awful and I felt mentally overwhelmed as well. I didn’t have half the obligations you do.

All I know is that I’ve always had low energy, but it plummeted during the menopause.

Best of luck. Sometime getting through the day with kids fed and safe is still a win.

Shithole101 · 20/11/2023 10:54

MyNewGenericUsername · 20/11/2023 10:19

Also, do they get school dinners? Presumably if they're having a holiday dinner at lunch sandwiches are absolutely fine for dinner?

With ASD it's really important to honour their sensory sensitivities as well as continuing to offer other healthy foods, just like you said OP.

Yes they have school dinner. And yeah they don't always want a hot meal when they get home. They are small eaters

And yes with the ASD thing if I make dinner time a thing it causes him stress then he Just won't eat at all.

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Shithole101 · 20/11/2023 11:00

Isheabastard · 20/11/2023 10:37

Couldn’t see if this has been asked, but how old are you op, you mention adult and children DC?

The reason I ask is because I got that breathless feeling going upstairs, vacuuming, anything really. I was menopausal. My fatigue was awful and I felt mentally overwhelmed as well. I didn’t have half the obligations you do.

All I know is that I’ve always had low energy, but it plummeted during the menopause.

Best of luck. Sometime getting through the day with kids fed and safe is still a win.

I'm in my 40s 😭 I don't think it's a menopause thing though. I was just going by iron levels being issues for me most of my life . And someone told me it's a long term thing. Dentist also mentioned it to me because my jawbone took a very long time to heal. So I'm still at the iron thing for now see how that gos first

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Shithole101 · 20/11/2023 11:08

Xenia · 20/11/2023 09:39

It looks clean to me, just the stairs are a bit messy but that's not a big deal. I would probably remove tripping hazards. Even just talking about it on here shows very good sense and coping fine even if it is very hard.

I was a very fussy eater as a child, no crusts on bread, no butter or gravy ever etc - it certainly makes life hard for parents, although I turned out fine in the end (but I still don't have gravy!)

I'm similar. I hate gravy my mum used to put it on my dinner even though I said I did not like it used to ruin my whole meal. Still no gravy for me.

Stairs just need hoovering now . I have pulled a muscle in the back of my shoulder it really hurts. So I'm waiting for pain killers to set in.

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FrancisSeaton · 20/11/2023 12:13

Pinkpinkpink15 · 20/11/2023 04:22

@Shithole101

its a shame some people can't just STFU. Being 'reticent' to post should have pause for thought, but obviously not.

you have more 'stuff' & stress going on in your life than most of us could handle, yet here you are absolutely bossing it.

No actual & decent SW/manager would have an issue with your house. As you well know due to the ones you've had/have in your life.

I'm sorry you felt it necessary to explain about your older DS & DD.

it's weird though, your 'before' photos show rooms that really don't look like long term neglect or major problems. The bedrooms in particular look 'post play date ' state!

the lounge was 'messy' but again looks like a quick tidy would soon sort it. You don't have hoarding level chaos.

an illness or 'situation' can easily make everything massively over whelming.

I understand you not wanting people in the house. But many of us would willing help you out without any judgement & without questioning you about how things 'got out of hand'. 'Don't let some judgemental people stop you letting other people help.

i hope your older DS is doing much better now & hope DD manages to get that bloke behind bars so she can relax a bit.

right, let's get YOUR thread back on a positive note (hopefully some posters can just keep their thoughts to themselves!! If not we can just ignore them!!)

it sounds like you have a busy week, but maybe you can commit to a 2/5/10 minute pick up each day, it doesn't seem like much, but it does help

Dana K White

'progress & only progress'

Better. (Not perfect, BETTER)

xx

Exactly
Only a social worker who's only ever worked in Tunbridge wells would deem that level of 'mess' concerning
I've worked in the most gopping of shitehole home environments in tower hamlets and newham and they STILL didn't meet threshold

Shithole101 · 20/11/2023 12:25

FrancisSeaton · 20/11/2023 12:13

Exactly
Only a social worker who's only ever worked in Tunbridge wells would deem that level of 'mess' concerning
I've worked in the most gopping of shitehole home environments in tower hamlets and newham and they STILL didn't meet threshold

Why Tunbridge Wells? 🤣

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