Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Thread 32 Sunak : Sunak v Suella, the final countdown?

996 replies

DuncinToffee · 10/11/2023 08:25

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4916659-thread-31-sunak-court-conflicts-and-complications?page=1

OP posts:
Thread gallery
46
Notonthestairs · 10/11/2023 19:33

String of leaked WhatsApp messages.

Confirms some of my worst suspicions of certain Tory MPs

x.com/samcoatessky/status/1723050318781456442?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

OP posts:
Notonthestairs · 10/11/2023 19:46

Apparently she's given Rowley her full backing which is a huge joke considering how she's behaved this week - I suppose she feels like she's stirred up sufficient trouble already.

There are threats to put in letters of no confidence if Sunak sacks Braverman.

DuncinToffee · 10/11/2023 19:46

Confirms some of my worst suspicions of certain Tory MPs

The Nat C's

OP posts:
Notonthestairs · 10/11/2023 19:49

Yep.
Their assumption that they "allow" protests is disturbing.

Notonthestairs · 10/11/2023 19:52

Comes to something when Bernard Jenkin has to be the equivalent of the thin blue line. They've gone quite mad.

OP posts:
Notonthestairs · 10/11/2023 22:01

Sunak told Braverman to hold off sending her article to the Times. She said that it had already been sent ..
Who is in charge?

x.com/mrharrycole/status/1723089162016825853?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

lljkk · 10/11/2023 22:05

The main political podcasts this weekend are going to be golden.

RafaistheKingofClay · 10/11/2023 22:54

That might be the only time I ever agree with Bernard Jenkin.

And how have they not figured out who the leaker is yet? It doesn’t look like one big group of Tory MPs rather several smaller groups have been leaked over the last few months. They need Wagatha Christie to sort them out. She’d have figured it out in no time.

Notonthestairs · 11/11/2023 07:46

Worth a quick look at this from the National Audit Office (well known woke, podcast listening, tofu eating organisation)

"Two years into its ten-year plan to improve adult social care, government faces numerous challenges, ranging from spending to delivery.

It has scaled back the short-term ambitions set out in its December 2021 White Paper."

More: nao.org.uk/reports/reform…

HALF THE BUDGET HAS BEEN REALLOCATED.

Yes I'm shouting. What the hell are these pricks doing?

It's a bloody disgrace.

cakeorwine · 11/11/2023 07:54

Social Care is a massive problem in this country and its only going to get worse as the population ages. It's expensive, a lot of councils are dedicating a lot of money towards it and there is a staff shortage.

I don't think that got mentioned in the King's Speech. I guess it's been solved Hmm

Notonthestairs · 11/11/2023 08:10

"At least two dozen councils believe their capacity to meet people’s long-term care needs will be exceeded by next spring, the NAO also revealed.
Directors of adult social services have said that more people will be hospitalised rather than being cared for at home and a greater burden will fall on already embattled unpaid carers."

24 councils unable to meet need.
More elderly and disabled stuck in hospital.

"A training and workforce development plan was stalled because officials have not managed to “set up a system to administer payments to providers”.
And health officials told the NAO “the political instability of summer 2022 had further contributed to delays as two new sets of ministers reviewed and determined priorities and staff took time to brief them”.
The Nuffield Trust thinktank said the NAO’s findings were “a damning indictment of the government’s progress towards delivering change”. The King’s Fund said the government had made “an utterly inadequate response” to the social care crisis."

Policies and implementation delayed because of the chaos in the Conservatives over the last 18 months.

Not because of the budget, because the Conservatives have spent a lot more time on their internal affairs than on governing the nation.

Of course certain Mumsnet posters will suggest the elderly and disabled aren't economically active - without the wit to realise the impact this has on hospital beds, A&E and carers who might otherwise be working.

amp.theguardian.com/society/2023/nov/10/tory-turmoil-hits-efforts-to-fix-staffing-crisis-in-adult-social-care

IClaudine · 11/11/2023 08:20

More cruelty. In Camden, homeless people are being moved on and their tents destroyed.

x.com/streetskitchen/status/1722957339932737777?s=20

Jason118 · 11/11/2023 08:41

My father is mid eighties and has no mobility and had to leave his flat after a fall put him in hospital. He was there for 12 weeks, 6 of those waiting to go somewhere to be assessed. He has been in the assessment centre for 3 months because there are no places in care homes. Not one. It's just dreadful.

User135644 · 11/11/2023 09:19

AdamRyan · 10/11/2023 12:31

What the fresh hell is this?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67368053

Has Nadine been on the David Icke forums? Or does she have a point?

Maybe Dr No is Rupert Murdoch 🤔

They're ruled by their main donors, the right wing think tanks at Tufton Street who were behind the Truss fiasco and newspaper proprietors and editors (Murdoch/Dacre et al) who put the pressure on.

Basically the kind of people John Major gave short shrift (hence Murdoch backing Blair and Labour). Boris further emboldened them.

mibbelucieachwell · 11/11/2023 11:22

Responding to Suella's call. Protecting decent people from the enemy. From the people who hate decent followers of British values.

TokyoSushi · 11/11/2023 11:25

Well what an absolute shocker than there's now fighting breaking out near the cenotaph.

Braverman & Sunak by his inaction have been whipping this up all week. I suppose we're just going to carry on in this state of nothingness until the GE, goodness knows what will have gone on by then.

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/11/2023 11:42

https://twitter.com/lizziedearden/status/1723294265114063154

It appears to have surprised the Met. FFS.

https://twitter.com/lizziedearden/status/1723294265114063154

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/11/2023 11:46

I’m not at all suggesting that parts of this afternoons’s protest aren’t there to cause trouble, but any protest involving Tommy Robinson and the far right ends like this. They could start a fight in an empty room. WTF were the Met doing letting them anywhere near the cenotaph.

Notonthestairs · 11/11/2023 12:04

Riot police in Chinatown.

It's a mess. I can only hope the police can keep the two groups separate.

Notonthestairs · 11/11/2023 12:05

Jason118 · 11/11/2023 08:41

My father is mid eighties and has no mobility and had to leave his flat after a fall put him in hospital. He was there for 12 weeks, 6 of those waiting to go somewhere to be assessed. He has been in the assessment centre for 3 months because there are no places in care homes. Not one. It's just dreadful.

Sorry to read that Jason - this highlights my worry for my family too.

It's the lack of strategic planning and infrastructure and staff - they had a plan but they've abandoned it.

Notonthestairs · 11/11/2023 12:09

"This was 10.35am on Whitehall. (I’m out reporting on the whole day for @TheAtlantic)

In my view, the police let these protesters charge and break through the line because it ended up with them further away from the Cenotaph."

x.com/helenlewis/status/1723308233463345351?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

If this correct then the police did the right thing.

itsgettingweird · 11/11/2023 12:24

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/11/2023 11:06

Anyone else see a resemblance to Trump and the proud boys?

She's an absolute twat. She incited and created this.

Where are those left wing protesters she said would be the ones causing trouble 🤔

Swipe left for the next trending thread