Why won’t Egypt help the Gazans?

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It seems the most if not the only logical solution, to set up refugee shelters in the Sinai peninsula?

@RudsyFarmer so despite the fact we are paying millions a day in hotel bills for migrants to live in communities that can’t sustain them without the appropriate schools, housing or nhs resources we can absorb 2 million Palestinians?

Of course we can. Plenty of houses for everyone.

Because they don’t want all the problems that hamas brings?

I imagine airlifting 2.3 million Gazan's to the UK would take a bit longer than the Israeli deadline

There are already over 3 Million Palestinian refugees in the neighbouring countries from years ago already(Jordan Lebanon and Syria). Yes 3 million.…
source: from united nations’ UNRWA website
https://www.unrwa.org/what-we-do/protection

Their situation is dire.

Agree. It's not ALL men, but it's ALWAYS men.

Also, I believe that Egypt is currently struggling with the 7 million other refugees that they have taken in.

"Purely because they don't want to be a minority" what an appallingly ignorant viewpoint. The Palestinians are victims of Apartheid, pushed from their own land, forced to live in appalling conditions because they don't have the international support and the resources that Israel has. Israel would love for Palestinians to be a minority of zero. Why should they succumb to that?,

I've been wondering this too - reading about revulsion among Muslims worldwide about the fate of their co-religionists in Gaza, but no demands, or even suggestion for Egypt, a Muslim country, to open its border with Gaza.

Are there no demands for Egypt to open their border as it complicates the simple narrative of our side good, their side bad?7

There would be no hotel bills if people were permitted to apply for asylum from outside the UK.
There would be no hotel bills if we had social housing.
There would be few hotel bills if asylum seekers were permitted to work while waiting a decision.
There would be few hotel bills if the system were funded adequately to allow for faster decisions.
Make no mistake, the current UK situation is a deliberate choice of our government's making.
And has almost nothing to do with the crisis for Palestinians anyway.

Invite them to your house, you can help them I'm sure.

@Mademetoxic if they can prove they aren't terrorists, I would rather have 20 Gaza immigrants ready to work and integrate into the community than some of the challenging characters born here.

We should have free movement world wide. Yes it will need housing we don't currently support in this country that can't be state funded but it's better than the small boats etc. Something like dormitories/student halls or HMO's

@VivienneDelacroix Palestine has been under multiple countries rule over many year including ours. Every time it's not something like this happens. Egypt last tried to keep the peace and hand over control to the inhabitants in the 1990s but that resulted in Hamas and their view of trying to take all Israel. If they handed over full control to Isreal with no prospect of independent rule I.e the minority in a larger Israel imagine the chaos that would result.

There's a huge housing shortage in my area, I'm sure if you help them and have 20 immigrants in your house they will appreciate it. :)

Weirdly the rest of us aren’t horrified by the prospect of “immigrants” because we’re not racist and know that being an immigrant just means you’re a person from outside the uk.

And we've got the infrastructure for 2 million new people overnight?? All airlifted out?? Honestly you must be totally deluded

I thought we were in the business of sending migrants to Rwanda, not granting asylum...

The Government will never agree to this

Hamas don't want the Palestinian's civilians to leave because then they'd lose their human shields.

Are you only just now noticing the fact the Arab World countries are NOT falling over themselves to help them?

Take Egypt - they absolutely do NOT want Gazans inside their borders for at least three reasons.

1. They don't want Gazans using their territory to attack Israel from.

2. Egypt don't want more refugees.

3. Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi said, “The threat there is significant because it means the liquidation of this (Palestinian) cause. It’s important for its people to stay steadfast and exist on its land.”

Egypt actively WANTS Gazans to stay in Gaza.

Oh, and Hamas also don't want civilians leaving because they like to use them as human shields, according to NATO Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence.

This is from Reuters:

"Security in the area around Rafah is also of concern to Egypt because Sinai has been the site of an Islamist insurgency that flared a decade ago. Hamas, which has run the Gaza Strip since 2007, shares the Islamist ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood, a movement outlawed in Egypt."

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/bombardments-hit-area-gaza-sinai-border-crossing-gaza-officials-2023-10-10/

Egypt DOESN'T want or need Hamas sneaking in and linking up with Muslim Brotherhood.

From a National Security perspective, it's far better for Egypt to keep their border shut to keep Hamas away from Muslim Brotherhood.

It makes sense.

When Hamas formed in 1987, they had minimal support from Palestinians. But in 2021, support for Hamas dramatically increased as AP News reported:

apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8e1323fc1cad819c34da08fd87

In 2022, respected Palestinian pollster Khalil Shikaki and his Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) carried out a survey looking at Palestinian support for armed groups. Main takeaways below:

• 72% of Palestinians support forming more armed groups in West Bank

• in Gaza, 84% of respondents supported concept of armed groups taking NO orders from the Palestinian Authority. This is HIGHER than in the West Bank where 65% supported the idea.

www.pcpsr.org/en/node/924

And:

"....there is widespread popular appeal for competing armed Palestinian factions, including those involved in the attack. Overall, 57% of Gazans express at least a somewhat positive opinion of Hamas—along with similar percentages of Palestinians in the West Bank (52%) and East Jerusalem (64%)—though this is fewer than those who support Fatah (64%).

But it is organizations like Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) and Lion’s Den that receive the most widespread popular support in Gaza. About three quarters of Gazans express support for both groups, including 40% who see the Lion’s Den in a “very positive” light, an attitude shared by a similar percentage of West Bank residents."

www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/polls-show-majority-gazans-were-against-breaking-ceasefire-hamas-and-hezbollah#:~:text=Overall%2C%2057%25%20of%20Gazans%20express,who%20support%20Fatah%20(64%25).

So, the support for Hamas, Lion's Den and other Palestinian armed groups is there from the Palestinian population. A minority do not support them.

Important to note that Abbas' Fatah party also has an armed wing - Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. So, there is a LOT of Palestinian support for terrorist groups overall.

So, not all Palestinians support Hamas. But it is NOT wrong to say that a majority of Palestinians support terrorist groups.

53% of garzans support hamas
It follows
The majority of the population of the Gaza stip are classed as terrorists
Who would accept that risk into their country, happily not us.
The remaining "innocent" wont be going anyware, they are too useful as human sandbags for terrorist scum to hide behind.

Egypt have just take about a third of a million refugees from Sudan fleeing the war that broke out there.

Maybe Egypt also has some citizens who think the country is "full" and that their country shouldn't take their fair share of the world's refugees?