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DH and I argue about Dubai!

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handwringer82 · 11/10/2023 18:19

DH and I just can't agree on Dubai. I feel I don't want to go there on holiday. I don't want to pay my money to visit, and I have many reasons why, which are complex, and probably shared by some others on this forum, but not everyone I know.

Anyway, DH works in finance where many of his colleagues travel to Dubai, and holiday there. He'd like to go in his lifetime. Whenever he raises it I say I don't want to go, so he can go with work etc but I'd rather not go as a family with our DC, and he gets really cross about it. This topic is like a trigger disagreement which always turns into an argument. It's really annoying. On a wider level we've had marital issues and have been having counselling and been making progress but whenever this topic comes up we argue. I've tried to articulate my feelings but he just doesn't get it and thinks I should set it aside to go with him as it's somewhere he wants to go in his lifetime.

Anyone on here who feels strongly like me and would never want to go there on holiday? I'm struggling to articulate why to him or make him understand. I've said he doesn't even need to understand - just respect - but it's not enough. He says why am I happy going to US since I'm not a fan of their gun laws, buts it's not the same.

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CatherinedeBourgh · 13/10/2023 19:11

Freefall212 · 13/10/2023 08:01

It isn't anti-Arab to not like Dubai. It is anti-Arab / Muslim to only care about 'ethics' and 'morals' when it comes to Arab / Muslim people or nations and to make judgments based on a lack of knowledge or evidence but rather on stereotypes or headlines or sound bites you saw on social media that supported yoru confirmation bias about those awful Arabs.

You have no evidence that the OP only cares about these things when it comes to Arabs. Personally, I've been and would happily go back to Egypt and Jordan, both of which have dubious 'ethics' and 'morals'. Because they also have amazing cultural things that you cannot do anywhere else.

The thing with Dubai is that the only thing to recommend it is sun and glitzy shit. Both of which you can have with considerably higher ethical standards. So it doesn't meet my threshold for setting aside my standards. Nothing to do with being Arab in any way, shape or form. Just with being a nasty little country which tries to attract tourists with a very thin veneer of 'civilisation'.

sashh · 14/10/2023 03:24

Freefall212 · 13/10/2023 19:02

I lived in the middle east. I have first hand knowledge, interacted directly with hundreds of workers, have been to Dubai, know about the kefala system and life in the ME in ways your google search and TikTok sound bites will never tell you

I've never looked at tick tock. My 'sound bites' include the UN, academic papers, news articles, reports from human rights organisations and other sources.

From what I see of the, "I've lived in the ME" usually it is amongst other expats in an expat bubble.

FairylightsandHygge · 14/10/2023 03:50

PurpleRadish · 11/10/2023 18:26

Shame to cast off a whole country because of the regime but up to you.

Is there a regime in Dubai? What does that even mean?

FairylightsandHygge · 14/10/2023 03:52

RabbitH0LE · 11/10/2023 18:32

No way I'd be going there. Not just everything about the slavery etc. But it's just ugly and consumerist and boring! I like forests and lakes and waterfalls, not shopping centres in the dessert!

I have to agree with this. I find it a very souless place, all concrete and plate glass. I like nature.

Its the same way I wouldn't spend any length of time on a cruise ship. Horrible polluting monsters.

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