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Do I tell my cleaner I can see her weight on my phone?

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useitorlose · 30/09/2023 05:58

I just got some new Bluetooth bathroom scales as I'm doing Slimming World online and I'm finding the additional data and tracking information useful.

When I looked at this morning's data, I noticed there were two entries for yesterday - one at 7.30am and one at 11.29am. Both weights were similar so at first I thought, that's weird, I don't remember weighing again later and it was 2lbs lighter, so I would have remembered that!

Then I realised that it couldn't have been me but the timing coincides with when my cleaner was in that bathroom and I was downstairs. Her weight is probably similar to mine but she's tiny, about 4ft 10 to my 5ft 4 so perhaps she wants to keep track.

I've deleted that entry from my records. I have no problem with her using the scales - she has the WiFi password and we encourage her to feel comfortable here, we pay her above the going rate and give her birthday and Christmas gifts. We've known her for 5 years. The dilemma is, shall I tell her that I can see her weigh ins?

If she used the scales in the other bathroom, they're not Bluetooth and we wouldn't know!

OP posts:
oakleaffy · 30/09/2023 10:28

openallday · 30/09/2023 10:22

Bluetooth scales

Oh good lord

What next, a Bluetooth lavatory?

''You last evacuated your bowels at 7.10 am, the mass was 500 grammes''

Worriedmum159 · 30/09/2023 10:30

Itsgottobeme · 30/09/2023 06:39

as long as we know shes fatter than you because she's smaller what does it matter eh op?

👆🏼

Guavafish1 · 30/09/2023 10:31

no

useitorlose · 30/09/2023 10:34

Maybe I gave too much info - I was trying to explain that this isn't someone I never see, but someone who has been part of our lives for years, and we have enormous respect and care for her and her family. She is from 'overseas', but then I do not live in the UK now, and things are different here, so I technically am from 'overseas' too. I don't want to embarrass her, so I won't tell her.

OP posts:
Flyinggeesei234 · 30/09/2023 10:38

Maybeimjuststupid · 30/09/2023 08:28

Or maybe op was just giving lots of detail - if you don’t you get accused of drip feeding !!

There always seems to be a funny dynamic with cleaners. Posters often failing over themselves to say how lovely theirs is, how they’re like family, how they over pay, how they tip at Christmas / give birthday presents. It comes over as superior to me. Like they have a pet project, someone to patronise.

ohdamnitjanet · 30/09/2023 10:41

oakleaffy · 30/09/2023 10:25

Yes, @useitorlose got to keep the servants happy with your Lady Bountiful ways!

It does sound a trifle condescending.

Let me guess...she's from overseas? {Wanting to make her feel welcome}

Most people surely are polite to their cleaners?, but not to the point of giving them presents or wifi access {I don't have a cleaner}.

Edited

I’d absolutely give a cleaner WiFi and Christmas presents etc, but definitely wouldn’t put it online 😆

Rosscameasdoody · 30/09/2023 10:49

Flyinggeesei234 · 30/09/2023 10:38

There always seems to be a funny dynamic with cleaners. Posters often failing over themselves to say how lovely theirs is, how they’re like family, how they over pay, how they tip at Christmas / give birthday presents. It comes over as superior to me. Like they have a pet project, someone to patronise.

I don’t think it’s necessarily superior or patronising. I think it’s more that they know some on MN would rip them to shreds for daring to have cleaner, so they try to mitigate with information like this.

pam290358 · 30/09/2023 10:59

oakleaffy · 30/09/2023 10:25

Yes, @useitorlose got to keep the servants happy with your Lady Bountiful ways!

It does sound a trifle condescending.

Let me guess...she's from overseas? {Wanting to make her feel welcome}

Most people surely are polite to their cleaners?, but not to the point of giving them presents or wifi access {I don't have a cleaner}.

Edited

And still the nastiness persists. OP’s just posted that this info was given to establish that this is someone who has been in their lives for years and is valued both as an employee and as an individual in their own right. So she doesn’t want to upset her. MN really does bring out the worst in people.

6mam6 · 30/09/2023 11:03

Second that

Idtotallybangdreamoftheendlessnotgonnalie · 30/09/2023 11:07

If she's so tiny I wonder if she's standing on them to reach a bit higher to clean something. Sometimes an inch can make all the difference 😂

theduchessofspork · 30/09/2023 11:09

mikado1 · 30/09/2023 06:14

Obviously not!
Same happened a friend of mine, cleaner weighed herself weekly on the scales. He said nothing. No idea why you've mentioned her height etc.

Exactly. On all counts.

MrsJBaptiste · 30/09/2023 11:12

@PinkMoscatoLover Oooh, I've never been stalked on a thread before! 😁

housethatbuiltme · 30/09/2023 11:15

So she went to the bathroom, weighed herself, there was a gap and then she weighed herself again weighing less?

Either she removed 2lb of clothing or it sounds like the lads when they joke on about how they weighing themselves before and after a big shit to see how much it weighed.

That is definitely info I would not want to receive regular updates on.

NatashaDancing · 30/09/2023 11:18

Flyinggeesei234 · 30/09/2023 10:38

There always seems to be a funny dynamic with cleaners. Posters often failing over themselves to say how lovely theirs is, how they’re like family, how they over pay, how they tip at Christmas / give birthday presents. It comes over as superior to me. Like they have a pet project, someone to patronise.

I agree. I've had cleaners for over 30 years. It's been a mixture of private individuals and agency cleaners. None of them were "like family". I don't buy them Christmas or birthday presents. They're there to do a job.

NatashaDancing · 30/09/2023 11:24

ohdamnitjanet · 30/09/2023 10:41

I’d absolutely give a cleaner WiFi and Christmas presents etc, but definitely wouldn’t put it online 😆

Why does a cleaner need wi-fi access?

A cleaner is there to do a specific, manual job. Every one has mobile data on phones if for some reason (unrelated to the job) the cleaner needs to access the internet.

RedSquirrelsRock · 30/09/2023 11:29

What a daft, knobbish op, what has weight, gifts or wages got to do with anything??
So you've got a cleaner and she's a bit heavier than you so what?

napody · 30/09/2023 11:33

squirrlebutkin · 30/09/2023 07:41

Yeah, I would do this. I think it’s a bit weird to not tell her. If I were the cleaner I would feel made a fool of if I ever found out my weight was been recorded on my employer’s app and then never told me. It’s a bit infantalising to think this information needs to be kept from her ‘for her own good’.

Tell her it’s been recorded, she’s welcome to keep using that scales if she wants, but there’s an alternative scale if she wants to use that privately.

Yup. Don't understand all the posts telling you to keep it secret! She hasn't given you permission to access this info, you shouldn't be continuing to access it without giving her the option of keeping it private.

TheShellBeach · 30/09/2023 11:34

Itsgottobeme · 30/09/2023 06:39

as long as we know shes fatter than you because she's smaller what does it matter eh op?

That did make me laugh.
OP why didn't you tell us her BMI while you're about it?
Grin

RudsyFarmer · 30/09/2023 11:35

I’d just remove the scales and replace them With the other pair. My scales live in a cupboard.

EarthSight · 30/09/2023 11:36

OP it does rather come across like you might be a bit gleeful at the fact that tee-hee, you can see her weight! And that you want to share this with other privileged mumsnetters who are lucky to have this position over another person.

Backagain2 · 30/09/2023 11:36

useitorlose · 30/09/2023 10:34

Maybe I gave too much info - I was trying to explain that this isn't someone I never see, but someone who has been part of our lives for years, and we have enormous respect and care for her and her family. She is from 'overseas', but then I do not live in the UK now, and things are different here, so I technically am from 'overseas' too. I don't want to embarrass her, so I won't tell her.

I’d go against the grain and would tell her. It’s basically her health information and she may or may not mind but personally I’d prefer to know.

TheShellBeach · 30/09/2023 11:39

My scales live in a cupboard

Mine have a very specific spot on the floor because it's uneven and my weight is different on different parts of the floor.
It drives me mad if the scales are moved.

OspreyLambo · 30/09/2023 11:40

Why am the I only one who finds the cleaner using my scales odd? She's there to work not to weight herself. Plus if you want to watch your weight you should weigh at the same time every day clothes off etc etc. Far too much fuss at a workplace.

Buy her a set of scales as an early Christmas present then you won't have this issue.

Backagain2 · 30/09/2023 11:42

napody · 30/09/2023 11:33

Yup. Don't understand all the posts telling you to keep it secret! She hasn't given you permission to access this info, you shouldn't be continuing to access it without giving her the option of keeping it private.

I agree with you both. It’s removing her choice by not telling her, and she may figure it out later if another employer or friend has a Bluetooth scale she uses and tells her about it. And then the penny will drop for her once she realises that many scales are Bluetooth. My scales are Bluetooth too. But you need to open the app for the reading to go through to your phone (i think!)

And for the sanctimonious people ridiculing scales or Bluetooth scales..,just why? If you don’t want them don’t buy them simple!

but if someone wants to monitor their weight that’s up to them and not doing anyone else any harm.

I used to use Boots pharmacy weigh machine but often they would be broken and I was 3.5 stone overweight at one point so wanted to regularly check my weight/body fat percentage when I started my health journey . Not that it needs justifying!

Backagain2 · 30/09/2023 11:48

NatashaDancing · 30/09/2023 10:06

Still sounds weird. And obsessive.

You need to weigh yourself weekly for slimming world online. It makes perfect sense to do so and it’s the same for most other diet /exercise programs so you can see progress, if any . It’s not unusual at all so you’d have to some kind of scale.

A lot of scales are Bluetooth now or maybe the OP deliberately chose a Bluetooth one with an app for ease of recording the weekly weigh ins.

I used to note it down in various places in my phone /email myself the readings etc and then forget where I had entered the info. So much easier with an app.