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I just can’t fucking get on board with this one

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Streamorwatchlive · 22/09/2023 15:05

From The Guardian today.

Never swear in front of your kids. Sandahl says swearing encourages a reduction in vocabulary. “‘Fuck’ is a catch-all word: but we’ve got a beautiful language, and we have so many words to express what we feel,” she says.

I’d like to see this evidence that by including swear words in your vocabulary that you are simultaneously reducing it overall. I swear like a trooper and I am a writer with a fantastic vocab (not a commercial tabloid type, this isn’t for a story don’t worry!)

In the real world, of course, we all swear occasionally: and, if you do, the important thing, says Sandahl, is to own it, to maybe laugh about it, to explain why you’re feeling frustrated. “Instead, be honest about the fact that you overreacted; ask your child what better word you could have used instead.”

first off I take issue with the fact that one might only swear when frustrated or angry. I rarely swear in aggression.

secondly, the thought of getting down to a 3 year old’s level and saying ‘let’s think of ten beautiful words mummy could have used instead of fuck’ is ludicrous.

I’d rather teacher my child that words are words and all words can be beautiful I’m the right context.

thoughts?

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FastAndLast · 30/09/2023 14:48

I’ll admit I’m taken aback still when I hear it from strangers freely in front of children.
The sex of the person swearing doesn’t shock me more though one way or the other.
I do swear myself at times, I’d never do it in front of other people’s children or my elders though.

DoraSpenlow · 30/09/2023 17:15

I don't care how well educated people are, if you can't string a sentence together without fucking this or fucking that you are always going to sound like you are a low class oik from a sink estate with no standards.

Legomania · 01/10/2023 11:56

It's not the swearing per se for me, it's people who don't have a filter for their audience/environment. Like people who like to conduct highly personal conversations at top volume on the bus, they just come off as having no filter and not being incredibly bright.

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Wolfricbriandumbledore · 01/10/2023 11:59

DoraSpenlow · 30/09/2023 17:15

I don't care how well educated people are, if you can't string a sentence together without fucking this or fucking that you are always going to sound like you are a low class oik from a sink estate with no standards.

Even if you speak an exquisitely modulated RP at the ‘can be heard across a large field of riders and foxhounds in full cry’ level of decibels?

Some of the most UC people I’ve ever met are also the sweariest.

Legomania · 01/10/2023 12:02

https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:224208/FULLTEXT01.pdf

This is the first hit if you search swearing and UK socioeconomic status. Basically the highest and lowest swore the most in an absolute sense, but the lowest the most by proportion of the number of words spoken.

https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:224208/FULLTEXT01.pdf

WandaWonder · 01/10/2023 12:08

I don't swear I just can't be both to have to tailor how I speak to different 'audiences' so I just don't swear in the first place it's simpler

FastAndLast · 01/10/2023 14:43

WandaWonder · 01/10/2023 12:08

I don't swear I just can't be both to have to tailor how I speak to different 'audiences' so I just don't swear in the first place it's simpler

Oh I often tailor how I speak in front of different audiences. I wouldn’t start talking about anything sexual in front of the vicar or children, for example.

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