So it is Russell Brand

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The biggest news story of the year is about someone who has already written books about all the stuff he has done. I will be surprised if Dispatched can say one thing I didn't already know.

When is the programme on?

If true, Why now? He rarely appears on UK TV anymore and his podcast subject matter content as proven to be factually accurate. The fact is British news media as a history of deciding for us what they want us to know and keeping from us what we should know. When I was a student in the 1980s I had a debate about press freedom with an American exchange student, during which she said the trouble with you Brits, you don't know what is happening in your own country. When she revealed that since the 1950s American newspapers openly reported that Edward VIII was a nazi collaborator we were all shaking our heads in disbelief. We now know what she said was true and all UK news media collaborated to keep it from us, to protect the establishment. European and American news media revealed QE2 was dying of bone cancer in October 2022 whilst all British newspapers were telling us she was cancelling appearances due to gout. So why now, his podcasts are very informative, is the establishment out to get him.

Yeah I follow him and don't see what's batshit about valuing transparency and personal autonomy.

The explaining is not the issue, it’s the lack of attempt to comprehend which is staggering.

He’s gone very alt-right, all conspiracy crap about ivermectin and pharmaceuticals, American politics, anti main stream media, MAGA type shit

https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2023/03/have-lost-russell-brand

@Darkdiamond ah you’re one of those people. I’m so sorry for you. I hope you regain peace in your life.

I think there was a time when many women offered themselves to celebrities/singers/actors - groupies were rife, and still are, although on a lesser scale. That’s not to say that the famous are not in some part to blame. Their moral compass should direct them to walk away. But some of these people are elevated by the media on a pedestal, and when young, their boundaries become blurred, and they take what’s offered. Women have to have more self worth, and value themselves. You only have to go into Manchester pubs frequented by premiership footballers on a Saturday night to see the desperate lengths women go to to be noticed.

You sound exactly like a conspiracy theorist! And I say that as someone whose a fully paid up member of the Free Speech Union!

There is. I hope he gets what's coming to him,it's long overdue.

Couldn’t agree more. The level of conclusion reached from zero facts and wild speculation is astonishing.

and the ‘looks creepy’ crap? It would be immature in a playground. I assume these posters are green adults, who ought to know that assumptions about what people look like/present have led to some of the highest profile miscarriages of justice.

Oh and don’t forget the American government caused 9/11 🙄

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-29756166

but I’m sure he’d just say it’s a main stream media witch hunt to silence him!

I thought it might have been about someone that you'd be shocked about. He's always been a letchy creep 🤮 he's one of those people that makes my skin crawl. He was a sex addict, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if some of those women weren't quite so keen to jump into bed with him. I'm not accusing him of anything, I just wouldn't be shocked or surprised.

I'm disappointed if it's about him 😆.

He’s got more like 7m followers on YouTube and it’s growing all the time. So many people would like to take him down.

Rape survivors can't get justice in court, rape has basically been legalised in this country. Its a crime where we can't shrug our shoulders and say 'wait til it's proven in court' because the likelihood of that is miniscule. Men are more likely to be sexually assaulted than falsely accused of it.

Crack on 😀

@Redebs ew

Legal but not morally ok

@Livelovebehappy ,

If that is all it is about, I would be surprised.

Given the pre publicity and 90 minute length, I assume it is about something or someone more ‘important’ (or at least interesting to the general public) than celebrity groupies.

If it isn’t, Dispatches will score a massive own goal.

What a load of bollocks these threads are.

So someone on social media starts a rumour that the biggest news story of the year is about to break, so big that dispatches are apparently doing a an as yet undefined programme about it, and people use it as an opportunity to make unfounded allegations at any and every celebrity they see fit to trash.

There is absolutely no way that channel4 are going to risk a defamation lawsuit by making a programme to make unfounded allegations against some celebrity or other. The tabloids- yep, they’re constantly being sued for defamation and losing and they don’t care, but not channel4.

If there are criminal allegations they need to be dealt with by the police, not not the gutter press and social media.

The flip side of this argument is that if there are serious allegations of abuse being covered up in the comedy industry and those allegations include him, then it should come out in the open. Otherwise it's another, 'the mainstream media have covered it up'nstory

But some of these people are elevated by the media on a pedestal, and when young, their boundaries become blurred, and they take what’s offered. Women have to have more self worth, and value themselves. You only have to go into Manchester pubs frequented by premiership footballers on a Saturday night to see the desperate lengths women go to to be noticed.

oh come on! Those men are incredibly fit prime physical specimens, young and rich. Some of them are even quite handsome. Of course young women want to shag them!

All this biggest story build up and 90 minutes

And Russell Brand

Maybe there’s more to it

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I agree that the stats on rape crimes are appalling. But throwing unsubstantiated crap, speculation and opinion, on someone no one knows personally, into social media, is not the way to address that very real issue.

@Crunchymum

Thats just utter hypocrisy though. If RB can have his bit of free speech and discredit scientists, why can’t Dispatches also exercise free speech about his conduct?
This is the issue about all those who question the narrative, anti mainstream, ma freeee speeeech types. They are actually “allowed” to spout their rubbish, but want to very much ‘silence’ any attacks against them! That’s not free speech then is it?!?!