What is going to happen to all the litters of xl bully puppies?

[Wanttobeok]

So now that XL Bullys are going to be banned by the end of the year (fully in support of that) what is going to happen to all the puppies?

Currently on gumtree for my city alone there are about a dozen adverts for litters of this "breed" so across the country it must be hundreds.

I can see that the prices have already been massively reduced but who is going to buy one now knowing that it will have to be on lead, muzzled etc

What will these breeders do with all the unwanted puppies.

It occurred to me that if they release them into the wild then we could have packs of wild dangerous dogs roaming around...

Fully agree!!

There is an XL bully at the top of my road who snarls in anger every time I go past with my golden retriever. I was at the end of the road and the owner came out with the dog who went ballistic at my dog and the owner had to drag him back on his (chain) lead. I genuinely live in fear that this dog will get loose and attack my dog or God forbid my children.

I couldn't support the ban more. They are truly terrifying. I mean wtf would I do if one attacked my soppy dog?

I actually think all dogs should be part of a "too strong for the owner" rule. My dog was attacked by an absolutely beautiful but very dog aggressive lab because its 80+ year old owner couldn't hold him. She literally said, "I can't hold him!" as she dropped the lead and I had to kick him to get him to leave my dog alone. We were both crying by the end.

You can buy a dog safe form of pepper spray which apparently stops dogs in their tracks when they start mauling, I've no idea if it works but might be worth looking at carrying something like that with you on walks.

Frankly? I don't care what happens to them. We just want these hideous beasts of our streets, out of our parks and public spaces.

Cull them would be best, and would do everyone a favour. It would especially be a favour to those unfortunate children whose parents have them in the house as 'pets'

I hope every XL is destroyed.

I don't give a fuck if kids are upset, your kids being upset doesn't override anyone's right to not get mauled to death by a monster.

All breeds have gone through periods of blame. It was dobermans, then Alsatian's then Rottweilers and pitbulls.

Banning then achieves nothing until we create a culture where dogs powerful enough to kill people are not allowed to be kept as pets and is strictly enforced.

I think it's revolting that any person has been mauled to death by a dog just because some selfish idiot wants to keep a dangerous status symbol.
All the children who died and have life changing injuries which were completely avoidable. It's disgusting. No one should have been allowed to keep large dogs as pets in the first place.

Why would you buy a dog capable of doing such harm with a child in the house?
I'm not asking to put you down, I'm just genuinely curious because I can't imagine ever making the same decision.

Like humans dogs can turn

with a dog like a Rottweiler or XL Bully an adult wouldn’t stand a chance such is their strength

it’s ridiculous to have such dogs (along with other incredibly strong breeds) around young children and it’s just not necessary

You sound like a responsible owner, but unfortunately if your dog turned there's precious little you can do. The Yorkie you could easily get off, but a dog that can be in excess of 200lbs and tower over an adult man (of which they've easily killed many at this point) you stand no chance of saving yourself or your child. Utter madness regardless of whether it's the most well trained, obedient and good tempered dog on the planet.

" People need to realise, it’s the breeder/owner. NOT the breed itself"

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A similar argument gets trotted out in the US when after a particularly nasty shooting the topic of gun control gets brought up and the counter argument is that guns don't kill people bad people do.

The fact is that there will always be bad owners and bad people but the question is by what means can they cause harm. In the case of the bad owner and they had a bad Jack Russell then yes it would be capable of biting someone but not killing them. In the case of bad people if the only weapon they had access to was a knife then yes they would be able to kill one or two people but nowhere near as many than if they had access to a semi automatic assault rifle.

The point is these XL Bully dogs have a capacity to kill children, pets and people far more than other breeds plus there is no real valid reason for owning one (unlike say a sheep dog).
So on that basis I fully support their ban and destruction of existing animals in the same way I would support a ban on semi automatic assault rifles in the US.

Errr, guns DO kill people. That is the entire reason they exist. It doesn't matter if it's a good person or a bad person, pull a gun trigger out of an authorized place, and the likelihood is someone is going to die. Thats not the same as cuddling up to a very happy and well adjusted dog.

My mum had a miniature English Bull Terrier during this period. She remembers the fear at the time scrambling to find his papers to prove he was not a pit bull like the ones being banned
There are pictures of me as a baby in 1994, 3mo and the dog cuddled into me or resting his chin on my bouncer. He was my best pal and my absolute protection and used to bounce me all day
Me and mum spoke tonight about how that juts would not happen now. You would never leave a baby with a breed like that ever. (Obv I'm going to say this) but my dog was different, with me. I suppose he could have turned on any stranger who wasn't me or dm.

Mum never replaced our dog when he dies and now 29 years on she has an American Bulldog! Right at the time all of this is going on about banning again, what are the chances!
Her and her DP are the most responsible owners and have already ordered a dog dna kit

What???? Oh we can't go denying a fucking dangerous animal around kids it's fucking canine rights can we? The sheer idiocy is astounding

I have left it too late to edit my post. My mum now has an American Pitbull Terrier . Not a bulldog as previously written. Fs.

Grown men can't fight these dogs off but people buy them from breeders to bring into the family home with small children.

No doubt for the insta photos of them sleeping with or walking the dog. Thick as shit.

Thank god they're banning them.

^^Exactly this.

On these threads, the owners always arrive to insist their dog is a big softy, and well-trained and just wonderful with children.

And many of them are. Until one day when they aren't.

And no one knows when that day might be. No one knows if it might be their dog. It doesn't even have to be poor training or breeding. Dogs can get unusually aggressive if they're unwell; it's one of the things to look out for. If a dog like an XL Bully gets aggressive because it's poorly, it could result in someone being seriously hurt or killed.

Yes, any dog can turn and it's important to never forget that. But if my Shi Tzu cross ever turns, I guarantee you that I'd be able to drop kick him across the room faster than the speed of light. If that was an XL Bully, the sheer muscle of the dog means that I'd have no chance.

I don't understand why owners fail to understand the crux of this argument.

And as a PP said, it's not just XL Bully dogs - it's Rottweilers, Dobermans, and other powerful, muscly dogs. I don't think people should be able to routinely keep them as a pet - the potential consequences are way too dangerous. There's a reason these dogs are often chosen as guard dogs, or police dogs....and it's not their ability to politely woof at intruders....!

Also worth saying that in no way at all am I gloating. I would be utterly beside myself if there was any suggestion of someone taking my dog away. I just think if you have young children, it's unbelievably irresponsible to have brought a dog into the house that you couldn't overpower and control if the need ever arose.

I find it a bit fucking ridiculous. I fully understand that the damage that has been done is completely reprehensible and thoroughly disgusting. The owners are not being punished hard enough. Pity they can't be culled too. IQ OF 30 posting all over social media "No1z takin my lad" in reaction to this and the next post underneath is "my lad's" puppies for sale, "dead good with kids"
In the real world there are kids. KIDS! Aged 8 and upwards who are attacking and stabbing other kids and random adults who might try to stand up to them when they're committing crimes. This is daily reality where I live, and they have these dogs with them sometimes. They're always off lead and aggressive, and don’t even get me started on the dogs

@misssunshine4040

It is not large dogs being kept as pets that is the biggest problem. It is people breeding for the aggressive traits and people buying them as status symbols or weapons. Plus the idiots who buy dogs of gumtree without any idea what It's history is and why the current owner is desperate to be rid of it. Unless we tackle this, breeders will have moved onto their next breed by this time next year. They probably already have one earmarked already.

I think all this glosses over the issue of dealing with the people who create this mess . Ban the XL Bully and they'll be another breed chosen to be modified and dangerous .
We need to stop papering over the cracks and get to grips with this feral underclass who have no respect for man or beast . It's people that are the problem , scum breeding for scum .

They tend to have GSDs, possibly because they are much more trainable and reliable. They use them for control, not attack, and the dogs can be called off on command.

It's policing by consent in UK, not by intimidation.

Ban the XL Bully and they'll be another breed chosen to be modified and dangerous

Of course. This is why breed based bans don't really work. Does it matter that there are next to no attacks by the dogs in the Act, when the actual number of attacks is up. If we don't solve the issue with ownership, and poor breeding, then we'll be back here deploring the next demon dog.

It doesn't have to be a bull breed - in the past its been GSDs, dobermans, rottweilers as well as pitbulls, now American bulldogs.

I would imagine plenty of the upstanding citizens breeding them now won’t take much notice of the law.

I am pleased a ban is coming into place, and not before time.

Why anyone would have a dog like this around children, I have no idea, highly irresponsible.

We had a dog from a pup til pts at 13, he was a bearded collie, never gave me any reason not to trust him, he was a lovely, loyal dog. But I never left him alone with my children, not a risk I would ever have taken. It only takes the once to have an injury or worse. My dog suffered ear infections from time to time, and was getting old, if a toddler grabbed his ear, doesn’t take a genius to workout what might happen. It’s common sense.

I agree with PP that owners are often not strong enough to cope with their choice of dog, I know someone with an English bulldog, he is really strong & heavy, the owner is dragged all over the place and can barely keep up with him. He does seem a lovely dog, but if he did attack, no way could the owner do a thing.