What is going to happen to all the litters of xl bully puppies?

[Wanttobeok]

So now that XL Bullys are going to be banned by the end of the year (fully in support of that) what is going to happen to all the puppies?

Currently on gumtree for my city alone there are about a dozen adverts for litters of this "breed" so across the country it must be hundreds.

I can see that the prices have already been massively reduced but who is going to buy one now knowing that it will have to be on lead, muzzled etc

What will these breeders do with all the unwanted puppies.

It occurred to me that if they release them into the wild then we could have packs of wild dangerous dogs roaming around...

Should've put a like hell they will on the end of my question
Though if someone did have an issue keeping a dog they might take them back as stock . But if they can't breed them then they're pretty worthless .

News has been updated today regarding XL’s they’ll have to be neutered/spayed, kept on a lead and muzzled when out in public and insured. I imagine responsible owners do this already.

This is the existing law that has been in place for decades - you can see what XL Bully owners will have to do under the exemption section
https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs

Thanks @ToBrieOrNotToBrieThatIsTheQuestion

You're still missing the point, that staffys and XL bullies are NOT THE SAME BREED. And the term "nanny dog" has been around for much longer than the need to improve the public image. Staffys were never bred to be fighting dogs - have certain types of people used them for that in the past? Yes, the same as they've also used rottweilers and GSDs.

My main point wasn't about the term 'nanny dog' it was more outrage that the poster inferred that owners of staffys are in some way uneducated! Says a lot more about their level of education!

How many more times - a staffy and an XL bully are not the same breed!! An XL bully is a good 15-20cm bigger than a staffy (a proper one!)

Also where have I ever said they are left unsupervised? I said they are best friends, nothing more. I am not stupid, far from it - I wouldn't leave my child unsupervised with a chihuahua, who incidentally are little bastards for biting!

My staffy weighs no more than the average labrador or retriever - nobody ever suggests they should be muzzled and kept on lead in public!

The point I'm making, that so many people seem to be missing (possibly on purpose!) is that

1. Staffys and XL bullies are NOT the same breed
2. Having a staffy does not make you a part of a 'certain group of people' (uneducated, use a dog as a status symbol, don't train their dog etc)
3. ALL dog ownership should be regulated, I would be more than happy to jump through as many hoops as needed to prove that I am a responsible dog owner - just one who doesn't believe that dogs should be forever tainted because they were once used for bad purposes!

@wwheresmymojo thank god someone who talks sense 🙏

@Iamclearlyamug Are you @BethanyL ? Because that was who my post was in reply to. A poster that said their XL bully slept with their four year old, though going back the posts appear to have been withdrawn by the posters request now.

And where exactly in my post do I confuse Staffordshire terriers with XL bullies? Not even remotely the same dog.

It is possibly to actually have a well bred staffy from a responsible breeder for a start, and the proper ones are quite small.

Though for someone who doesn’t want others to generalise about breeds perhaps you should do the same? I have a chihuahua cross and have never had a more loving dog.

We recently took her on holiday and I was surprised by the amount of people who started with the phrase ‘I don’t usually like small dogs but she is lovely’.

Any size dog needs to be well trained and socialised (and no, gorgeous as she is I still wouldn’t let her sleep with the dc).

There's an article today in the DM about large number of owners of XL bullies trying to hand them over to rescues. Why on earth would they think that anybody else will want their banned breed dog???

Anyway, one charity worker said that a lot of these irresponsible owners will just dump the dogs on the street if they can't find a rescue to take them. So look out for roaming bullies when you're out and about - particularly if you live in an area where you've seen plenty being walked. I can well believe that the kind of people who have these dogs will just dump them if they can't find a charity with space for their unwanted dog.

On another point, one of the charities mentioned in the article apparently has a 'no euthanasia' policy. How does that work when you have a load of dogs that can't be re-homed and no one wants?

In reply to your point about rescues and euthanasia cheezncrackers, personally they need to take off their 'save the world' hat and do the sad but sensible thing. Keeping these dogs alive will be likely condemning them to a life in kennels purely to ease the conscience of the rescuers.

They need to put their feelings to one side and do the right and responsible thing.

The ‘no euthanasia’ policy only works if it is possible to regime the dog. However, the breeders at the other end of the line are deliberately breeding dogs so huge and aggressive that they are impossible to rehome.

There’s going to be a peak and it will fall off naturally as the ban comes into force and no more dogs are legally bred.

There's definitely a lot of them around looking for homes.
This one was titled

Needs a home today.

I wonder why the desperation🤔. That's a future killer right there.

The cut off bit said she can be left alone for up to 7 hours with background noise and they'd prefer for her to live in a large flat as that is what she's used to.

Great with children then adds to go to an adult only home with no children visiting?

How can you say that it's not the dogs fault it's the people who own them a dog is a reflection on the owner.
Not all XL bullies are like that just like not all jack Russells are yappy.
Just like all women are not like you

We don't do this to convicted rapists and murderers so why should dogs be put down.
47 fatalities in one year by dogs 5 by XL bullies 2 by American bulldogs we van these dogs because there American why didn't we van the Staffordshire bull terrier oh yeah because there English

Firstly, animals are not the same as people.

secondly, the word is they’re. Short for they are. They are American.

Actually nanny dogs were Pitbulls not staffys

Well I know someone who has recently bought one, unwittingly. Very distressed after it’s first vet visit to be told she’ll need to apply for exemption and get it neutered etc.

Honestly. People are dim.

Just off the top of my head

Handy intimidation factor when enforcing drug debts
want to look like a hard man in front of mates
will frighten rivals off patch
protect house/assets

Bull breeds were never 'Nanny Dogs'. It was a dangerous marketing story made up by a breeder of fighting dogs. His nephew ended up being killed by one of his 'Nanny Dogs'. https://blog.dogsbite.org/2010/05/1909-fatality-john-p-colbys-fighting.html

https://www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/crime/court-sees-moment-xl-bully-called-titan-locked-on-to-wellingborough-womans-arm-causing-appalling-injury-4421366

Dog was previously seized by police, but then returned to owner to take home to his four young children.

Re the defining/IDing of the breed - it’s been widely reported in the media that XLs as a breed are massively inbred and majority of animals in the UK are related to one or two animals in the US who’s sperm was imported.

So if we know that, surely any suspected XL can be more accurately ID’d by genetic testing? Especially if it means the difference between a dog being incorrectly id’d and condemned to death or correctly id’d as not an XL? Would make it much more objective and less dependent on the opinion of the assessor on the day.