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What is going to happen to all the litters of xl bully puppies?

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Wanttobeok · 15/09/2023 12:33

So now that XL Bullys are going to be banned by the end of the year (fully in support of that) what is going to happen to all the puppies?

Currently on gumtree for my city alone there are about a dozen adverts for litters of this "breed" so across the country it must be hundreds.

I can see that the prices have already been massively reduced but who is going to buy one now knowing that it will have to be on lead, muzzled etc

What will these breeders do with all the unwanted puppies.

It occurred to me that if they release them into the wild then we could have packs of wild dangerous dogs roaming around...

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BethanyL · 15/09/2023 20:50

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Hollyhobbi · 15/09/2023 21:01

But it wasn't the tiny dogs that attacked that woman.

stayathomer · 15/09/2023 21:07

BethanyL
I am sorry you’ve even seen this thread- it was on Irish radio today and I thought imagine that being announced about your dog who your family love as part of the family. We have a cocker spaniel, a breed known for being cute and loyal but owners know their other name is Crocker spaniels, because they’re nippy. I can’t imagine people talking about our little dude like that. I don’t know how they’re going to solve all of this mess but the braying for the blood on this thread seems insane

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Prescottdanni123 · 15/09/2023 21:18

@stayathomer

I know. There are plenty of responsible dog owners with friendly, well behaved and well controlled dogs who are now panicking over whether their dog falls into the 'XL bully'category and what that will mean for them. And their is people getting happy and excited over the idea of XL bullies being put down.

It is not the dog's fault. They aren't monsters. We created this situation and it is not going to improve just because we have banned a certain breed. We need to do something about the people breeding them to be weapons/status symbols otherwise they will just move onto another breed.

applesandmares · 15/09/2023 21:19

Deaths in 2022 by:

Cigarettes: est. 76,000
Alcohol: 7,423
Road collisions: 1,695
Humans (murder): 696
Cows (2022/2023): 8

XL Bullies: 5

I think a bit of perspective is required before we talk about going into people's homes and shooting their pets, or burning them etc. I have a dog (not a bully) and love her like a family member. I'd sooner leave the country with her than have someone kill her on the basis of her breed with no consideration for her individual temperament and risk factors.

I have no objections to stronger restrictions as discussed on here (muzzles, leads etc) but culling would be awful.

Prescottdanni123 · 15/09/2023 21:22

@applesandmares

I highly expect the authorities to struggle to deal with illegally owned XL bullys because of all the time wasting calls from mumsnetters wanting to report their neighbours dog who isn't actually an XL bully and whose only crime is existing.

HateTheView · 15/09/2023 21:26

I heard (not checked) they're going to be in more demand before the ban comes in so will likely fetch higher prices!

Wishahwas · 15/09/2023 21:35

@BethanyL despite agreeing something had to be done (but this plan won’t work) Ive felt sad today for families like yours. I’m sure there are many others similarly responsible, and people who have taken in, trained, bonded and love their rescued ones.

PPs have mentioned predisposition to certain traits, which is interesting. Perhaps but not 100%, and breed traits are affected by terrible breeding. Not all collies herd for example, though they are predisposed to. Dog breeding overall needs to change.

Metatarse · 15/09/2023 21:38

I still don't understand why people would want them. And why in the last few years they've become so popular.
My kids walk to school, through areas where people 's dogs get loose all the fucking time. Mr fluffy bollocks might be soft as a brush in your house, but what if he sees my 11 yr old as a threat?

I go running. I'm less scared of the dogs I can kick, than the ones the potentially won't let go. And why the fuck should I even have to think that way? There's enough to worry about whilst running, without worrying about dogs that could kill.

Poptones · 15/09/2023 21:52

I think that as long as these vile creatures exist, every person in this country has the moral, if not legal, right to carry a gun.
Or any other weapon of defense.
We live in a supposedly first world country.
What the fuck is wrong with us that we allow dogs like these? What the fuck is wrong with any parent who'd have a dog like this around their child?
Fucking insane. No apologies for language. Nope. Sorry. No.

Prescottdanni123 · 15/09/2023 22:01

@poptones

Of course, let's give everyone a gun and paranoid mumsnetters can shoot anything furry with four legs that looks at them the wrong way. And if that's not going to be enough to fucking deal with, we will have lunatics walking into schools and firing randomly every week. You are a genius! How has the government not thought of this before! I can't imagine how that situation could end up absolutely fucking disastrously!

On another note, XL bullies are aggressive because we bred them for it, so we are the vile creatures really.

Moonwatcher1234 · 15/09/2023 22:02

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Boo hoo - I have no time or sympathy for people like you who would have these horrible vicious animals around their kids. Wake up. They are volatile and if one turns, there is precious little you could do to stop it. I like dogs but these need to be put down asap

Poptones · 15/09/2023 22:04

stayathomer · 15/09/2023 21:07

BethanyL
I am sorry you’ve even seen this thread- it was on Irish radio today and I thought imagine that being announced about your dog who your family love as part of the family. We have a cocker spaniel, a breed known for being cute and loyal but owners know their other name is Crocker spaniels, because they’re nippy. I can’t imagine people talking about our little dude like that. I don’t know how they’re going to solve all of this mess but the braying for the blood on this thread seems insane

It won't be announced as Cocker Spaniels have not yet been known to rip human beings to shreds.

bellamountain · 15/09/2023 22:06

I think only the Army and police officers should be able to own them, perhaps they'd be a good deterrent to criminals rather than being owned by them.

ToBrieOrNotToBrieThatIsTheQuestion · 15/09/2023 22:14

bellamountain · 15/09/2023 22:06

I think only the Army and police officers should be able to own them, perhaps they'd be a good deterrent to criminals rather than being owned by them.

The police want something known, predictable and trainable for guarding work.

Belgian malinois work well for all sorts of reasons and you know what you're getting. They're entirely unsuitable in a pet home - they just require too much input - but are fantastic working dogs in a guarding role.

I can't see the military or police wanting a breed with a known propensity for turning on their owners and killing them.

twoamigos · 15/09/2023 22:18

My fairly elderly neighbours own one of these. I've been worried some day one of them getting it, before all the attacks and stories surfacing.
The 'puppy' is now a hefty size amd I do not see how they will manage the dog given their ages if it turns on them.
I love dogs and have one of my own but I do not trust this breed on but.
I haven't read the reports about the banning of them. What would my neighbours have to do now they are going to be a banned breed?

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Wanttobeok · 15/09/2023 22:19

OK, so as the OP I just want to point out that I never said I wanted dogs or puppies to die. Iam certainly not gleeful about the fact that much loved family pets are going to be taken away/pets.

I was actually worried about what would happen to the brand new puppies, the litters I have seen advertised.

People said that I'm "on another planet" talking about these dogs being released into the wild but I was trying to put myself in another person's shoes. If my dog who I love so much was going to be taken away and killed I would rather release him somewhere remote and give him the chance of living wild rather than being pts when he's done nothing wrong.

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Wanttobeok · 15/09/2023 22:19

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Wanttobeok · 15/09/2023 22:19

OK, so as the OP I just want to point out that I never said I wanted dogs or puppies to die. Iam certainly not gleeful about the fact that much loved family pets are going to be taken away/pets.

I was actually worried about what would happen to the brand new puppies, the litters I have seen advertised.

People said that I'm "on another planet" talking about these dogs being released into the wild but I was trying to put myself in another person's shoes. If my dog who I love so much was going to be taken away and killed I would rather release him somewhere remote and give him the chance of living wild rather than being pts when he's done nothing wrong.

Being pts would be a lot kinder than releasing it into the wild to either be killed or starve

But, as others have already mentioned its highly unlikely there will be a cull on xl bully's, any puppies born before the ban will most likely be pts if they can't find homes as I'm sure rescues will not be able to take them all.

It's sad for the dogs but unfortunately humans yet again prove to be the contributing factor in all this.

There was never a need to breed this type of dog as a pet. Nobody needs animal living in their home that has the physical ability to maul them to death, even if the dog is a big softie. There's so many other breeds of dog that don't have the capability to kill people.

Prescottdanni123 · 15/09/2023 22:52

@Wanttobeok It's alright. No one is assuming you want puppies or dogs to die. It is other people on here who have zero empathy and seem to have come out in droves tonight to prove that a certain portion of mumsnetters truly are vile. I agree with you, it is an awful, very sad situation and I feel nothing but sympathy for owners of XL bullies or similar who must be out of their minds with worry tonight. If it was my dog's breed, I'd be on a plane with her out of the UK tonight.

Breakawaytour · 15/09/2023 22:55

Wanttobeok · 15/09/2023 22:19

OK, so as the OP I just want to point out that I never said I wanted dogs or puppies to die. Iam certainly not gleeful about the fact that much loved family pets are going to be taken away/pets.

I was actually worried about what would happen to the brand new puppies, the litters I have seen advertised.

People said that I'm "on another planet" talking about these dogs being released into the wild but I was trying to put myself in another person's shoes. If my dog who I love so much was going to be taken away and killed I would rather release him somewhere remote and give him the chance of living wild rather than being pts when he's done nothing wrong.

Sorry that's bonkers, release the dog where it would starve and possibly try and kill someone? Have the thing pts, best all round.

Clymene · 15/09/2023 22:57

They will be dumped in bags at the side of the road.

People who breed these dogs don't give a shit about the animals.

HRTQueen · 15/09/2023 23:00

Rosamary · 15/09/2023 13:05

It is far better for the puppies to just be PTS now. Saves any future of them having to be muzzled in public etc. Most of the people that own these dogs give them a shit life anyway.

Anyone who is blubbing about putting innocent puppies to sleep need to pull themselves together and accept that a horrible thing needs to be done to counteract the stupid, horrible problem that humans have created. Animals don't suffer if they are humanely PTS but doing this now will reduce suffering of the dogs themselves, innocent humans and other animals in the future.

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I agree

Stroopwaffels · 15/09/2023 23:02

BBno4 · 15/09/2023 12:34

Probably cull them.

Here's hoping.

Unfortunately though there will be a black market for these awful animals among the hard of thinking who think a banned dog makes them look extra tough.

SomeCatFromJapan · 15/09/2023 23:04

People need to realise, it’s the breeder/owner. NOT the breed itself.

But different dog breeds quite clearly have innate breed characteristics, and no-one would disagree with that - until it's these bully breeds, who are suddenly claimed to be born with no particular innate breed tendencies and it's absolutely all nurture all of a sudden?

Your dog is quite small, and looks more like a staffie.