Escaped convict - Anyone else slightly fascinated by how he's escaping capture?

[Malariahilaria]

I don't know why but this has captured my imagination. Daniel Khalife escaped prison by clinging to the underside of a delivery van. Now I'm wondering when did he let go? Where did he hide? Is it like the fugitive where he hides in a hen house out house and steals a doctor's uniform from a hospital? Where would you hide if you had to? Where do you get food and water and shelter?

Lmfao

I do hope he remembered his Waitrose card.
Did he have a receptacle for his free coffee or tea?

That's looking on the bright side 😀

I wondered this about intelligence being received. But I reckon he was just on his own

Looks like he was on his own with no help. He smiled when he was caught. Probably relieved. The warm nights would have been useful but what can you do on your own.

Haven't rtft, so there were road blocks set up causing chaos for travellers for hours on end, and meantime he was cycling around, chatting to people in gardens and going into Waitrose?!.

I want to ride my bicycle
I want to ride it where I like

It didn’t really seem to me that he was lying low that much so perhaps not that bothered about getting caught again. Surely with the warm weather he could have laid low for longer as long as he had some water and a bit of food. Sleeping bag surely not needed yet even though he had one.

Does anyone else feel quite sad about this situation? Based on the information that we have about this person he seems very much like an immature kid to me. His actual charges don't suggest that he is a terrorist as we're used to hearing about. More a prankster who perhaps naively did stuff that he shouldn't have done. I'm in no way saying that he shouldn't be punished for his crimes because he absolutely should.

The way I see it though, he is a young lad (not much older than my own DC) and is now facing a cat A prison. I wish he'd just stayed and accepted his original sentence - his crimes don't sound like they would have earned him a lot of years. He may well now get the book thrown at him and leave prison as a hardened criminal rather than going in as one. Worse still, the harsh realities of a cat A prison sentence may destroy his mental health and he will lose the best years of his life in the system. He just doesn't seem to realise the severity of what is to come and I find it really sad that a young life could potentially be destroyed because of his immaturity.

indeed, he doesnt appear to be a hardened criminal and according to a bbc article with an ex inmate, he was in the kitchen as he was vulnerable
he is also younger than my dc
i imagine others will have the same opinion
they did say this wont prejudice his trial;

It depends on the detail of his charges and what he might have been planning, what has been made public is fairly vague.

I know a group of young people of a similar age who might look like innocent and fairly harmless, distant relatives of friends sort of thing.

Two of them are currently on remand having being charged with large scale money laundering and drug importation and another, the ring leader is in hiding overseas.

This didn't age well

It could be made into a comedy.

I was disappointed to see a photo of his chef's uniform - very mundane. In my head he was strapped to the underside of a lorry in nice starched chew's whites with a big frilly hat sticking out by the exhaust.

Chef's*

@PinkTeaForMe I do agree- He’s not a terrorist in that he hurt or killed people.

A bit of a twit.

I knew a woman who worked in a U.K. jail and she said a lot of people crumble - Bullying is rife.
This kid should have kept his head down and done his “ Bird”.

I hope he won’t get a hard time in a tougher jail.

Many years ago I read a book about a middle class girl who was jailed for supplying heroin to Olivia Channon at an Oxford end of term party.

Olivia died.

Rosie was the writer- can’t remember her surname, but middle class people tend to get a hard time in jail.
“ Inside Out” the book is called.

Prisons need way more staff by the sounds of it these days- It wasn’t so bad then.
Bull Dyke Hall was the name of one jail ( Bullwood Hall )

Also a lot of the Oldskool “Mr Mackay” Porridge type “ Screws” have retired from what I heard.

I agree absolutely

I’m inclined to feel abit sad for him
I don’t think he’s a spy at all I think he’s most likely a total idiot.

I’m as middle class as they come and got
out of prison earlier this year. I wouldn’t say MC people get a hard time, actually lots of my peers would come to me (us) for help with reading and deciphering. I do have a law degree but IANAL - it helped with some of the letters people received.

I spent lots of time helping people learn English and maths.

I commented earlier but not sure people believed me - if you go to prison like I did with no experience of the system and no criminal community links, the most you can really do is buy prescription medication off other inmates. Getting mobile phones, cash, and spice, is really the remit of people who mix in criminal
communities outside of prison.

I was in a women’s “cat A”, they’re not categorised like that for women but it’s the most local to my home so that’s where I went.

@Hanlonsamazer That’s what Rosie did, too - helped others with letter writing &c.

It’s amazing what gets smuggled in to jails , despite strip searches.

I’d heard drugs have a massively inflated value inside- Spice does seem a popular one- and Buprenorphine ( Subutex) but this may have changed.

One junior school abutting a prison had to do a sweep for drugs that mistakenly ended up in the playground.

Dropped by drones(?)

The jail wall ( 19th C) abutted a similar aged school.

@Hanlonsamazer You mean you were released, not that you escaped?

I’m sure an escapee wouldn’t be posting on Mumsnet!

@Hanlonsamazer was responding to being “ MC in U.K. jails.

Yes but my 73 year old dad with Parkinson’s wasn’t going to suddenly stick a mobile phone up his bum or find a spice dealer for me was he?

I could probably find someone to buy cannabis off locally if I tried to but this is my point. I don’t know any drug dealers, certainly none who would visit me in prison on a promise of cash when I got out. I don’t know anyone who would risk a prison sentence to drop drugs over the wall of Bronzefield, I wouldn’t know where to get class A drugs. Those inmates who live in communities where this is routine, are the ones who get things smuggled in.

Judging by his not very successful escape, I suspect Khalife did not have an army of felons supplying him with contraband. If he did, why would they not have helped him evade capture?

My point is @oakleaffy, whilst I’m sure all sorts gets smuggled in, those prisoners who are career criminals with family and friends all doing time or ex convicts, are the ones who smuggle it and receive it.

Not everyone in prison is smacked off their tits and hiding mobile phones, regardless of how many schools have to do a drugs sweep (one since 2015?).

Would be something of a lead wouldn’t it.