What’s the scariest unsolved mystery you know?

[Mimmy352]

Whether it’s personal or well known, which unsolved case makes your brain sound like dial up?

Guilt and grief are well known to produce behaviours which may be considered strange.

And maybe, by shining a light on multiple pedophiles and wronguns they feel the campaign is something good to come out of a tragedy.

Guilt and grief are well known to produce behaviours which may be considered strange.

Sorry not convinced. Initially yes, but not for years. The parents are haunted. This is vile speculation.

This whole thread is speculation and relatively respectful, not vile. Nobody here knows the truth and no one is here to convince anyone either way, hence the unsolved, so people can and will speculate. That's what they're here for.

His parents have recently been interviewed.
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/new-developments-in-the-case-of-missing-2-year-old-émile-in-france/ar-AA1g2rxW

The axe attack on Paula Hughes in 1975 in Caerphilly. Luckily she survived but the attacker was never found. She was a friend of mine and it totally shook our community.

The cadaver dogs going mad in the apartment and the boot of their rental car. That's a big coincidence. That your child went missing AND you happened to be put in a room where someone had died (never mentioned by the hotel to the police, e.g. 'Oh someone had a heart attack here last week') AND you had a rental car where a body had been in the boot?

MM parents inc G’mother - Hiding in plain sight 😐

I have not heard any of that and we know how the media 'invents' things to fit their narrative. Yours is not the mainstream view and I don't buy it.

Oh, and why is speculation about the McCanns 'vile' but speculation about possible suspects in all other cases is fine?

Statistically, when a child under 12 is the victim of homicide the perpetrator is likely to be a family member.

www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-cadaver-dog-search-apartment-rental-car-maddie-podcast/fcda0546-b2a8-4c56-b78a-feba29e32380

I think it's hard for us in the UK to get our heads round how vast North American woods are. The Blair Witch Project couldn't really have been set in Britain because its premise - that you can be lost, and walk in the same direction for literal days, and never reach the end of the forest - just doesn't translate to our far tinier, and far more cultivated, woods. There's a single forest in Alaska that's 17 million acres. The whole of Scotland is 19 million acres. Entire passenger planes have crashed into North American woods, searched for and never found.

So you really don't need cryptids or abductors to account for disappearing forever in a North American wood. You just need to step off the trail and get turned around and not know which way to go. It's terrifying. This little boy, for instance, stepped behind a bush so he could jump out at family members, was missed immediately, searched for by professionals and never found. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Dennis_Martin

Noah Donohoe, a child goes missing in broad daylight, seen cycling around naked and then found dead in a storm drain. It was decided that he hit his head, got confused, took his own clothes off and fell in.

So strange. Very sinister.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7dkgy/he-was-seen-cycling-naked-through-a-housing-estate-and-then-he-vanished

Might have known this thread would descend into another defamatory mudslinging attack against the McCann parents. Pity - it was interesting and fun up until then (and thanks to the PPs who provided the links about Andrews).

The PP upthread is quite correct: it is 'vile'. Particularly so, given that after all these years people are still not satisfied they've had their pound of flesh out of these two. The McCanns have lost their child, have clearly suffered unimaginable torment because of it, and have never been convicted of any crime.

And yes, there is a difference between speculating on unsolved mysteries, discussing the behaviour of convicted felons, and finger-pointing at secondary victims of appalling crimes whose only trial has been courtesy of the media (Joanne Lees suffered much the same treatment).

Incidentally, cadavar dogs are not permissible evidence in any UK court. There is a very good reason for this.

Agreed. In the northern interior of Maine there are woods that stretch for hundreds of miles, all the way over the Canadian border and into New Brunswick. There are moose, bears and lynx there, not to mention those weirdly aggressive red squirrels they have which are enough to put the fear of the gods in me!

I can well imagine that people could go missing there and never be heard of again. Having lived in New England myself for a time, I have a healthy respect for wildernesses of that scale not least a kind of morbid fascination for the place. I often wonder what stories (aside from Stephen King's!) they could tell.

On the latter point, the one place I got a sense of this kind of isolation was deep into the Blue Ridge Mountains and that was on the relatively safe Skyline Drive: a main, metalled road. When we passed through there, we passed two cars all day and no fuel stops. We had extra fuel in the trunk. We stopped at a viewing point and got out: no road noise, no planes, no people, no electricity generators, no nothing, barring the sound of a few crickets.

As a person raised on a tiny, overpopulated island with evidence of civilization nowhere very far away, the feeling of being possibly the only person for miles around was quite intimating and scary. The silence was immense, heavy and all-encompassing. You really did get the sense that the world could end, right here and now, and you'd never know.

No wonder there are so many horror movies about places like this. I've heard it said the Australian outback almost seems sentient, and having experienced these empty spaces even on a smaller scale I can see why people think that. I'd love to go there!

SeraphinasGoose, thank you for putting this in perspective for me. I thought I was descending into an alternative conspiracy theory universe against the McCanns and nobody was challenging the foul allegations which were gaining false credence by stealth. I don't have any skin in the game re: the McCanns other than than as a fellow parent.

Until I see the McCanns convicted, those posters spreading misinformation should be utterly ashamed of themselves. Don't they have anything better to do?

I find it interesting that no one can speculate about MM, it's like there's a weird shroud around them and you must never say a thing. 10 pages in and numerous posters have accused Jonbenet Ramsay's family of SA and murder yet no one says a thing. MM on the other hand...

Interesting about the cadaver dogs, what skews their sense of smell, do you know?

The key word here is 'speculate'. Since when do people have licence to make things up?

Skews?

The cadaver dogs have been on multiple documentaries to be fair.

The best lies are wild extrapolations by overactive imaginations.

Yes, what is that can skew the dog's sense of smell so there is a positive result for a cadaver?

They are just dogs which are trained the same way other police dogs are trained to 'signal' when they smell blood/bombs/drugs.

nobody was challenging the foul allegations which were gaining false credence by stealth.

People are posting about lots of things and not challenging them. Weird to single MM out for special treatment and assume everyone not engaging on it is in some alternative conspiracy universe giving credence by stealth. People are responding to what interests them and not getting side-tracked by one case.