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What’s the scariest unsolved mystery you know?

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Mimmy352 · 02/09/2023 18:17

Whether it’s personal or well known, which unsolved case makes your brain sound like dial up?

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Lwrenagain · 04/09/2023 13:06

I remember in 2022 I think, a skull was found on saddlemoor but it wasn't poor Keith. I was so hopeful they'd found the wee fella.

I'd LOVE a thread where people could share theories on many of these!

Jonbenet Ramsey - I think it was her dad, but I know Burke is the most popular contender.

Madeline Mccann - many possibilities however I'm very much leaning with the Portuguese police and believe she died in the apartment. Unpopular opinion.

Johnny Gosch - a woman who did the James English podcast, name of Barbara O'Hare discusses her time at Aston Hall, she touches on Johnny's case if anyone is interested with how indepth it could go.

If anyone is interested in some of these cold cases, there is a YouTube series/podcast known as crime weekly and that's hosted by a YouTuber who does "deep dives" named Stephanie along side a retired detective named Derrick. They've covered many of the cases many have you have brought up.

I'm interested in the whole Elm guest house "client" list and I'm curious as to which famous people are genuinely involved in these paedophile rings.

Does anyone ever pay much attention to journalist Sonia Poulton? She's done YouTube films on both pedophiles in Parliament and the Madeline Mccann case.

Cracking thread @Mimmy352 thank you 🌻

wordlesie · 04/09/2023 13:09

@AcesBaseballbat

If Maura Murray ran into the trees as you suggest surely she would have been found? I think she faced foul play. I follow her sister on TIK TOK who posts about updates and theories. A woman just going missing in a space of a minutes brings up big red flags. I think she was kidnapped.

wordlesie · 04/09/2023 13:13

Also I know someone else has mentioned it but the little boy Emile who went missing in July, why has there been so little follow up. His parents were apparently far right wing and havent come forward publicly. The Mayor thinks he was taken by a mad man. I find it really odd how there has been silence from the media since.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 04/09/2023 14:44

Mimmy352 · 04/09/2023 10:17

I think, if she was in psychosis, she could have lifted it enough to slip in. People can display incredible feats of strength when under duress, when adrenaline spikes. I’ve read that our brains stop us from using our full strength so we don’t injure ourselves, but when our brain is ill or in fight/flight, those restrictions switch off.

I could totally imagine her being able to lift it just enough to get herself into it. She was small and slim, so it wouldn’t have taken much.

An example of that is when we had a new bathroom fitted,

  • new bath with a glass shower screen. Ds was 5 and playing in the bath and I saw the screen wobble from the wall and I grabbed it and managed to lift it away from falling on to him and the bath and set it to one side.

The next day when the fitter was back he asked me how I had managed to lift it as it was so heavy it had taken 2 to fit it ( incorrectly 🙄)

BarbedButterfly · 04/09/2023 14:45

Most of mine have already been mentioned, but also the Springfield yoghurt shop murders.

blueshoes · 04/09/2023 14:54

I think MM's parents know what happened to her. All these years on and listening to what criminal profilers have to say about the case, that's my conclusion

If MM's parents accidentally overdosed her and disposed of her body (as the latest posters seems to speculate), why would they continue to keep her profile high in the public's attention for years and years in order to find her rather than keep quiet? Does not make sense.

Pinkdelight3 · 04/09/2023 14:57

If MM's parents accidentally overdosed her and disposed of her body (as the latest posters seems to speculate), why would they continue to keep her profile high in the public's attention for years and years in order to find her rather than keep quiet? Does not make sense.

Because if they kept it quiet, it would look like they had something to hide. They can't win either way, but it certainly wouldn't look good to play it down.

toadasoda · 04/09/2023 14:58

An old one that is utterly bizarre - just had to Google the name there as I had forgotten - a young man called Mark Dowling who disappeared in the 80s from Dublin. He was driving with 2 friends and they had an accident, he lost control and hit a tree. They got out of the car, shook but unharmed. Then suddenly he got back into the car and drove off at speed. The man or the car were never seen again.

Larkslane · 04/09/2023 15:00

I often think of Marie Wilks when I see a lone women broken down on the hard shoulder of a motorway.
She was a 22-year-old seven-months-pregnant woman who was abducted from the hard shoulder of the M50 motorway and murdered on 18 June 1988.
Someone was convicted and then released on a technicality.
So sad.

GrimDamnFanjo · 04/09/2023 15:00

Starlia · 04/09/2023 09:54

Some Australian ones….

William Tyrell went missing from the yard of his foster grandmother’s home. I think the police now believe that he had an accident (such as falling off the balcony upstairs) and that the foster family covered it up to avoid getting into trouble. I’ve listened to a podcast about it and have to agree. Interesting that the foster mother pled guilty to assaulting another child in court just today. The poor little vulnerable boy in a Spider-Man costume is just so sad.

Some hold serious doubt about the guilt of the man convicted of killing Peter Falconio. Having watched a documentary about it, I would have to agree. I don’t blame Joanne Lees for the way she acted afterwards- we don’t truly know how we will act in that situation. I think what people were reacting to was the generally off feeling that just radiated from her. Lots of people just didn’t buy the story she was selling.

Wasn't there dna evidence in the Falconio case?

OneMoreCookieMonster · 04/09/2023 15:02

Purplebunnie · 02/09/2023 22:59

Edward V and his brother Richard Duke of York.

Who actually had them killed, was it Richard III or was it Hendry Tudor or even someone else. Is it really their bones Westminster Abbey, poor little boys

Was going to say this. Having read about it, I'm not convinced it is them. I hoping they were taken away to France to live in exile.

Tambatamba · 04/09/2023 15:05

blueshoes · 04/09/2023 14:54

I think MM's parents know what happened to her. All these years on and listening to what criminal profilers have to say about the case, that's my conclusion

If MM's parents accidentally overdosed her and disposed of her body (as the latest posters seems to speculate), why would they continue to keep her profile high in the public's attention for years and years in order to find her rather than keep quiet? Does not make sense.

I'm basing my opinion on what criminal profilers that were called in have said and I'm not talking about the Portuguese police and there are a lot of them. They all say that there is no evidence of an abduction. And that the evidence seems to show that Madeleine died in the apartment.

Also, KM said that she could sleep through the night, unmedicated after Madeleine had been missing for one week. This suggests that she knew what happened to her because a parent whose child has been abducted is tortured by the not knowing if they are suffering.

https://www.youtube.com/live/PD8OlQqRhT8?si=wCnk2_ybyTZVZyOC

juless77 · 04/09/2023 15:06

Lwrenagain · 04/09/2023 13:06

I remember in 2022 I think, a skull was found on saddlemoor but it wasn't poor Keith. I was so hopeful they'd found the wee fella.

I'd LOVE a thread where people could share theories on many of these!

Jonbenet Ramsey - I think it was her dad, but I know Burke is the most popular contender.

Madeline Mccann - many possibilities however I'm very much leaning with the Portuguese police and believe she died in the apartment. Unpopular opinion.

Johnny Gosch - a woman who did the James English podcast, name of Barbara O'Hare discusses her time at Aston Hall, she touches on Johnny's case if anyone is interested with how indepth it could go.

If anyone is interested in some of these cold cases, there is a YouTube series/podcast known as crime weekly and that's hosted by a YouTuber who does "deep dives" named Stephanie along side a retired detective named Derrick. They've covered many of the cases many have you have brought up.

I'm interested in the whole Elm guest house "client" list and I'm curious as to which famous people are genuinely involved in these paedophile rings.

Does anyone ever pay much attention to journalist Sonia Poulton? She's done YouTube films on both pedophiles in Parliament and the Madeline Mccann case.

Cracking thread @Mimmy352 thank you 🌻

I was thinking the same just other peoples thoughts on what happened

Tambatamba · 04/09/2023 15:07

Nobody would say that the McCanns weren't grieving but their behaviour suggested that they knew what had happened.

Molko · 04/09/2023 15:17

@Pebblesflintstoneandbambamrubble
They did prove the landlord killed Helen. He served time for her murder(not enough) ,he died last year(I think) taking where her body is with him.
Her mum and family still search to this day,it's heartbreaking, really hope they could find her.

Oioicaptain · 04/09/2023 15:27

The woman whose nighty disappeared after the builder visited. I could really do with an update.

Yiayoula · 04/09/2023 15:29

Kitchendisco1 · 03/09/2023 11:55

I’m not sure if these have been solved or not but they stick in my mind & I can’t find any information about them online.
The first one is that when I was at primary school in Kent in about 1989 (or around then) we heard that a mother had driven off Beachy Head with her two young children in the car (pupils at my school). I didn’t know them & it was tragic all round but I always wondered what lead her to do that.
The second one is I remember is a murder investigation being shown on Crimewatch about a middle aged man who was tortured & murdered by an intruder. He lived alone & was known in the village & had been drinking in the local pub. He fell asleep on the sofa & left the back door unlocked (usual for him). The intruder didn’t take anything (I don’t think) but cut the phone line which I always thought was really chilling. It’s always stayed with me. This would have been around 1995 although I can’t be sure exactly.

Do either of these ring any bells?

@Kitchendisco1

The second case is very local to me , and still unsolved .
I’m not sure how to post a link on here , but if you Google “ Barry Rubery , Iron Acton “ you should find police appeals and details of a documentary.

SmudgeButt · 04/09/2023 15:30

Why my parents had a holiday at the Swastika Hotel.

AcesBaseballbat · 04/09/2023 15:37

If Maura Murray ran into the trees as you suggest surely she would have been found? I think she faced foul play. I follow her sister on TIK TOK who posts about updates and theories. A woman just going missing in a space of a minutes brings up big red flags. I think she was kidnapped.

The woods in that part of rural New Hampshire are vast and dense, and a lot of the woodland where she vanished has never been searched as the local landowners won't allow it (not necessarily dodgy as New Hampshire is a very privacy obsessed, anti-government interference kind of place - their state motto is "Live Free or Die"). And realistically it's very, very hard to find a dead body in woods that dense. It's not uncommon for bodies to lie undiscovered for years, despite searches. It's not like woods in England which are more open and where police do fingertip searches in a line.

I feel so sorry for her sister, but both Maura and their other sister had serious problems and alcohol was involved. Maura had a mental health episode a few days before she went missing that caused her supervisor to become concerned, and was unable to speak except to say the words "my sister." The sister later clarified that she'd lapsed after getting out of rehab that same day and it was her relapse that had caused Maura's episode. This is not the same sister who does the TikToks, but it must have been so incredibly stressful and traumatic for the whole family.

But Maura's problems with aren't her fault or her responsibility, and Maura clearly was struggling with personal problems and likely did have a problem with alcohol. She crashed her car driving drunk twice in a short space of time. She'd been arrested and pled guilty to credit card theft three months before her disappearance. She was caught on a liquor store's CCTV four hours before she vanished buying beer, wine, and multiple bottles of spirits. Some of what she purchased were found empty in the car, meaning she'd been drinking at the wheel, and two bottles of spirits were missing, so either she or someone else removed them from the car after the crash. Unless she stopped on the journey to throw them out but that seems unlikely.

Some of her personal belongings including her wallet and cell phone were also missing, which seems to rule out forcible abduction.

The gap between Maura crashing her car, speaking to the woman whose house she crashed outside (who then went inside to phone the police), and the police showing up, was less than 20 minutes. We know that numerous cars plus a school bus passed during those 20 minute, and the bus driver stopped the bus and came out to briefly talk to Maura who begged him not to call the police and lied that she'd already called AAA. And the place where she crashed her car is surrounded by woods, but it's also residential; the woman who did call the police could see the crashed car from her window.

It just seems really implausible that a kidnapper just happened to come along in that less than 20 minute window, saw a girl alone, and decided to stop his car on a reasonably busy road in full view of local houses, and somehow managed to either overpower or coerce her into the car, and also paused to take two bottles from the car. Stranger abductions are just so vanishingly rare and the timeline and circumstances are so tight and risky.

The only way I could see it happening is if a man stopped to offer her a lift and she got in voluntarily because she was scared the police would show up and she'd be arrested, and somehow she/the driver decided to bring the bottles along, and he tried to party or get sexual with her, she refused, and he killed her either in anger or by accident and dumped the body. I don't think that's impossible.

(Has the quote function vanished??)

LylaLee · 04/09/2023 15:40

OneMoreCookieMonster · 04/09/2023 15:02

Was going to say this. Having read about it, I'm not convinced it is them. I hoping they were taken away to France to live in exile.

Well, whoever it was, two children were killed.

blueshoes · 04/09/2023 15:41

Tambatamba · 04/09/2023 15:07

Nobody would say that the McCanns weren't grieving but their behaviour suggested that they knew what had happened.

The parents' behaviour of not giving up the search for their daughter for years afterward is not consistent with their knowing what happened.

GR8GAL · 04/09/2023 15:41

HennyPenny1234 · 02/09/2023 18:57

Cattle mutilations

It's been going on for a very long time and nobody has ever been seen nor caught

Bodies drained of all their blood, sometimes the spine removed amongst many other organs

No footprints or tyre marks, sometimes a chemical smell present

It's the biggest rabbit hole you'll ever go down

How in the dead of night are animals rounded up and slaughtered?

I'll also throw in Roswell and JFK

Yes!! The documentaries about Skinwalker Ranch cover this, they even tried to set up traps to catch what was doing it. Really weird stuff.

On that note, all the cave systems around America and all the weird disappearances every year of people going missing in the woods...is it all connected? Is it aliens? Skinwalkers? The windigo?

LylaLee · 04/09/2023 15:43

Oioicaptain · 04/09/2023 15:27

The woman whose nighty disappeared after the builder visited. I could really do with an update.

Same.

AcesBaseballbat · 04/09/2023 15:59

You know what writing all that out makes me change my mind. I do think it's possible Maura Murray accepted a lift from the wrong person and it ended badly. (Not that that's necessarily what happened, but it's possible).

As for the people missing in parks thing, I love spookiness as much as anyone (google "staircase in woods" if you want to read something really spooky) but David Paulides is pretty much a con man who's obsessed with Bigfoot. A journalist did an investigation into him once and found out that a lot of the cases he reported on are either highly exaggerated (eg cases where someone was reported missing but then found safe and sound after a short while, but Paulides still includes them in his list of missing people), solved cases, or just flat out made up.

One of Paulide's first cases was a man who apparently just mysteriously vanished into thin air while hiking, couldn't possibly be an accident as he was a "very experienced hiker", then his body was found years later in a rocky outcrop below the peak he'd been hiking.

In truth, I think people underestimate how dangerous wilderness is. American National Parks aren't like our national parks, they're just many miles of total wilderness filled with dangerous wild animals that can and do kill humans, and punishing terrain. And I'm sorry I don't mean to victim blame, but tourists are really dumb a lot of the time. Every day you see people marching off to spend the day hiking in just a t-shirt with one bottle of water and no day pack, or people trying to climb mountains in flipflops. I've seen two videos this week alone from my favourite American national park of idiots trying to pet extremely dangerous wild animals. And a lot of missing people who loved ones describe as "very experienced hikers" go out into wilderness without proper supplies.

So I don't think there's any conspiracy linking the deaths, just lots of random unconnected accidents because wilderness is just very very dangerous, that Paulides is using and exaggerating for his own agenda. I'm sure some are murders (DeOrr Kunz I would put in this category) but not linked, probably just horrible domestic murders.

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