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AMA: I’m asexual, and married with kids

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Asexualawakening · 21/08/2023 20:28

Only realised in the last few years and wish I’d known it was a Thing back in the 90s!

Ask me anything………

OP posts:
CrispyOne · 22/08/2023 10:38

Some posters are really struggling to accept that for some people sex isn't really that important, and that they can live quite happily without it.

Asexualawakening · 22/08/2023 10:39

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 22/08/2023 10:18

Do you feel selfish? Why not leave him? You married him under false pretenses.

He doesn’t want me to leave him. I suggested it five years ago and he was distraught and fought to stay together.

When we married 16 years ago I hadn’t realised I was asexual. At that time I still
thought I was just broken and needed to be fixed (hence the therapy, hormone tests etc etc). Nothing was done with bad intentions. I loved him! Had I known I wouldn’t have married him, of course! Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I don’t feel selfish as it’s not a choice, and I’ve never done anything maliciously. I’m not withholding sex for some sinister selfish reason or to manipulate. I gain nothing from any of this. I spent 20 years having sex that I did not want because I thought I had to and it’s what everyone else does.

So no, I don’t feel selfish. I do feel regret and guilt and heartbreak though, that my lovely DH has to deal with it all.

What should I do?

OP posts:
AllProperTeaIsTheft · 22/08/2023 10:40

Do you feel selfish? Why not leave him? You married him under false pretenses.

Her dh doesn't want her to! If they are happy together and he doesn't want to be with anyone else, what would leaving him achieve, apart from making them both miserable?

Asexualawakening · 22/08/2023 10:55

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 22/08/2023 10:36

Some posters seem desperate to paint the OP in a bad light. When she realised she was asexual she talked about it openly with her dh and gave him all the possible choices she could. He then chose.

Yes it's not great (for the OP or her dh) that it took a long time for her to recognise her asexuality for what it was, but I don't see what else you think she should have done once she realised. As she points out, this is pretty common in the case of people who realise they are gay. And asexuality hasn't been a socially recognised or accepted thing until fairly recently (and still isn't, going by some of these responses).

I get the impression some posters don't really believe asexuality is real, or they think the OP has a medical problem. It reminds me a bit of people who don't really believe that any women, deep down, have no desire to have children.

You have been very polite and patient, OP!

Thank you I appreciate it.

None of this is on purpose. I don’t have a malicious bone in my body. It eats me up every day that I have ended up inflicting this on my DH. I live with the guilt, but I also remind myself that our marriage and family unit otherwise is full of respect, admiration, unconditional love, affection, support, acceptance, and NO abuse or toxicity of any kind. Not all households can say that. There are worse situations that ours.

I suppose there are people who can’t feel love or connection with someone without sexual intercourse. They perhaps assume everyone is the same as them.

I also want to point out / clarify that I haven’t told anyone IRL other than my DH and even then I haven’t really used the word asexual. I haven’t announced it to the world. I keep it all inside. I am “in the closet” so to speak.

OP posts:
AmazingSnakeHead · 22/08/2023 10:59

I don't think you need to feel guilty. Plenty of relationships are garbage, no love and no sex, and people make the calculated decision to stay together. Your DP isn't a little child, he has chosen his life with his eyes open, and decided he'd rather the relationship than to go and look for sex with someone else.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 22/08/2023 11:07

Thank you for this thread. I am asexual too abut didn’t realise until a few years ago as it wasn’t something I had heard of. I have never masturbated but I used to think that was normal for women, I slept with a string of men in my late teens and early twenties thinking I just needed to keep having sex and would eventually learn not to hate it, I mostly slept with strangers because I felt like I must be doing it ‘wrong’ as it was always painful and unpleasant and so was too embarrassed to do it with anyone I might have to see again.

I did have a 2-year relationship in my early twenties, I regret it now but I used to sneak to the bathroom to apply lube before sex so he’d think I was turned on and would fake an orgasm every time, I was able to sustain that for about a year but then it got to the point I hated the sex and we would have big arguments because we had gone without it for too long, he would coerce me into it and I would cry throughout it which he would ignore and eventually it got to the point I couldn’t force it any more so we broke up. At this point I didn’t realise any of this wasn’t normal but was so touched out I was celibate for 5 years before loneliness and peer pressure/ embarrassment at being single made me decide I should try and get out there again, I found if I got drunk enough I could bear sex and had a short fling with someone where we would get drunk and have sex but then I was raped by a stranger whilst on holiday and that sort of gave me a reason in my head to feel justified to stop having sex and I thought other people would understand me being single for a while after that. It was sort of in this time I discovered asexuality and realised that it describes me, I have never been ‘turned on,’ never successfully masturbated, never had an orgasm, never enjoyed sex, never wanted sex, never looked at a person and wanted to see them naked or wanted to kiss them etc.

I’ve never really talked to anyone in real life about this, I don’t think asexuality is very common and I think most people don’t really believe it and just assume there is something wrong with me (as seen on this thread), I would love not to be this way and to have had a normal life, I would have liked to have a partner and children instead of feeling pathetic and lonely being eternally single and I know people often judge me, but I have realised that it isn’t possible to fake it when it’s not there and it’s not healthy to do so. I have a lot of mental health issues and I think a lot of the, stem from forcing myself into unpleasant sex.

Sorry, realise this is an ama but that was quite cathartic. To ask a question, do you feel that there have been any long-term effects on you from spending years think g you were sexual and forcing yourself into sex you didn’t want?

mimosa1 · 22/08/2023 11:10

lol lui

Elsiebear90 · 22/08/2023 11:15

I’m pretty sure my best friend is asexual (and likely autistic) she does masturbate, she has crushes and she likes romance, but it doesn’t matter how attractive she finds a partner or how in love she is she has no interest in kissing or any sexual contact what so ever and never has.

OP do you have romantic feelings and crushes?

PurpleMonkeys · 22/08/2023 11:18

CrazyFrogDingDing · 22/08/2023 10:21

Do you often share details of your sexual preferences with people?
Announce that you're asexual in the middle of pizza hut? Or with your work mates in the canteen?
Maybe announce it over the tannoy at the train station?

So Asexuals should hide themselves and never discuss sexuality with anyone...

What a ridiculous person you are... And coming from me, that really is saying something.

Feel free to quote and respond to me, I shall allow you the last word, I have no wish to derail OPs thread any further and have no patience for you further. GO WELL CrazyFrogDingDing.

Asexualawakening · 22/08/2023 11:28

MolkosTeenageAngst · 22/08/2023 11:07

Thank you for this thread. I am asexual too abut didn’t realise until a few years ago as it wasn’t something I had heard of. I have never masturbated but I used to think that was normal for women, I slept with a string of men in my late teens and early twenties thinking I just needed to keep having sex and would eventually learn not to hate it, I mostly slept with strangers because I felt like I must be doing it ‘wrong’ as it was always painful and unpleasant and so was too embarrassed to do it with anyone I might have to see again.

I did have a 2-year relationship in my early twenties, I regret it now but I used to sneak to the bathroom to apply lube before sex so he’d think I was turned on and would fake an orgasm every time, I was able to sustain that for about a year but then it got to the point I hated the sex and we would have big arguments because we had gone without it for too long, he would coerce me into it and I would cry throughout it which he would ignore and eventually it got to the point I couldn’t force it any more so we broke up. At this point I didn’t realise any of this wasn’t normal but was so touched out I was celibate for 5 years before loneliness and peer pressure/ embarrassment at being single made me decide I should try and get out there again, I found if I got drunk enough I could bear sex and had a short fling with someone where we would get drunk and have sex but then I was raped by a stranger whilst on holiday and that sort of gave me a reason in my head to feel justified to stop having sex and I thought other people would understand me being single for a while after that. It was sort of in this time I discovered asexuality and realised that it describes me, I have never been ‘turned on,’ never successfully masturbated, never had an orgasm, never enjoyed sex, never wanted sex, never looked at a person and wanted to see them naked or wanted to kiss them etc.

I’ve never really talked to anyone in real life about this, I don’t think asexuality is very common and I think most people don’t really believe it and just assume there is something wrong with me (as seen on this thread), I would love not to be this way and to have had a normal life, I would have liked to have a partner and children instead of feeling pathetic and lonely being eternally single and I know people often judge me, but I have realised that it isn’t possible to fake it when it’s not there and it’s not healthy to do so. I have a lot of mental health issues and I think a lot of the, stem from forcing myself into unpleasant sex.

Sorry, realise this is an ama but that was quite cathartic. To ask a question, do you feel that there have been any long-term effects on you from spending years think g you were sexual and forcing yourself into sex you didn’t want?

Don’t apologise- thank you for sharing. Your descriptions of your teens and early twenties are very similar to mine!

There are ace dating sites I believe - so you could explore there if / when you feel ready? Best of luck if you do!

To answer your question. Yes, there is an echo of years of low level violation. Yes it was (mostly) consensual, I chose to have sex each time, but I didn’t want to be doing it. If rape is a 10 in terms of violation, I’d say all my sexual encounters before DH were at a 5-8 in terms of how violated I felt during and after depending on the person and situation. Even with DH it was 1-3, and he is the safest most lovely person. That’s how I know I am asexual.

I don’t blame my partners (except for the non consensual one obviously). But I suppose I do carry that trauma of feeling violated hundreds of times over two decades, yes.

OP posts:
Asexualawakening · 22/08/2023 11:33

Elsiebear90 · 22/08/2023 11:15

I’m pretty sure my best friend is asexual (and likely autistic) she does masturbate, she has crushes and she likes romance, but it doesn’t matter how attractive she finds a partner or how in love she is she has no interest in kissing or any sexual contact what so ever and never has.

OP do you have romantic feelings and crushes?

I’ve described it in a previous reply. I get platonic crushes - no sexual feelings either physically or mentally - but very occasionally I will meet someone whose vibes are wonderful, who feels safe and who I can tell has a good soul, and I get a “crush” on them. I think about them, want to spend time with them etc. But I don’t want to touch them, see them naked, or have sex with them.

OP posts:
Elsiebear90 · 22/08/2023 11:41

Asexualawakening · 22/08/2023 11:33

I’ve described it in a previous reply. I get platonic crushes - no sexual feelings either physically or mentally - but very occasionally I will meet someone whose vibes are wonderful, who feels safe and who I can tell has a good soul, and I get a “crush” on them. I think about them, want to spend time with them etc. But I don’t want to touch them, see them naked, or have sex with them.

Sorry must have missed it! From what I’ve read people can be asexual and aromantic, or just asexual and enjoy romance and experience romantic feelings towards people. I think it’s really interesting, I’m a lesbian so while I don’t completely understand I understand trying to force yourself to enjoy sex because that’s what’s normal and thinking if you do it enough or with the right person you will enjoy it. I ended up sleeping with a man before realising I was gay and it was a really uncomfortable and unpleasurable experience.

Not suggesting you are gay at all, but just that I understand not realising you’re asexual and having sex you don’t really want or enjoy because it’s what’s “normal”.

Asexualawakening · 22/08/2023 11:46

Elsiebear90 · 22/08/2023 11:41

Sorry must have missed it! From what I’ve read people can be asexual and aromantic, or just asexual and enjoy romance and experience romantic feelings towards people. I think it’s really interesting, I’m a lesbian so while I don’t completely understand I understand trying to force yourself to enjoy sex because that’s what’s normal and thinking if you do it enough or with the right person you will enjoy it. I ended up sleeping with a man before realising I was gay and it was a really uncomfortable and unpleasurable experience.

Not suggesting you are gay at all, but just that I understand not realising you’re asexual and having sex you don’t really want or enjoy because it’s what’s “normal”.

I have wondered if I am gay in the past. But I realised that it’s not that I don’t want sex with men, I don’t want sex with anyone! I tried to imagine being with a woman and nope, she can’t touch me either and I don’t want to touch her bits same as I don’t want to touch a man’s bits! Everyone please get your bits away from me lol!

OP posts:
Gwenhwyfar · 22/08/2023 11:47

Amethys · 21/08/2023 23:21

You may just have a simple hormone imbalance. Have you ever asked a GP for help? It’s strange to me to decide that your husband never gets to have sex again without at least trying to solve the problem.

Women do lose their libido as they age but having never had one at all is a medical problem that may have a medical solution.

This is the problem with the asexuality label. It clearly helps some people to feel they are part of a community, but it also discourages people from seeking help for what you could be physiological or psychological problems.

There is no scientific basis for the belief in asexuality, which means some people may be missing out on finding what the problem really is (if indeed it is experienced as a problem).

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 22/08/2023 11:54

There is no scientific basis for the belief in asexuality, which means some people may be missing out on finding what the problem really is (if indeed it is experienced as a problem).

But why should a lack of desire for sex be a problem unless the person is made to feel it is a problem (by society or by people they know)?

Asexualawakening · 22/08/2023 11:55

Gwenhwyfar · 22/08/2023 11:47

This is the problem with the asexuality label. It clearly helps some people to feel they are part of a community, but it also discourages people from seeking help for what you could be physiological or psychological problems.

There is no scientific basis for the belief in asexuality, which means some people may be missing out on finding what the problem really is (if indeed it is experienced as a problem).

Why must every single human being be sexual?
Why is impossible to accept that some are not, and are born that way?
And why is it a problem to be fixed?
Is there “scientific” evidence of homosexuality?
I don’t need you (or scientists) to believe in me. I exist.

OP posts:
Gwenhwyfar · 22/08/2023 11:59

Youdontsay87 · 22/08/2023 02:13

It's true. For people that aren't asexual sex is a big part of life. It's a break from the humdrum of life. It's fun, it's a stress reliever and an incredible way to spend time with the one you love. So for that just to stop is a big deal.

I see it as more of a spectrum from no interest, some interest and a lot of interest.
There are plenty of people who are celibate for years in between relationships (and sometimes in them!) who don't identify as being asexual so it's obviously not as important as food to many people.

Gwenhwyfar · 22/08/2023 12:03

TookTheBook · 22/08/2023 07:45

There's always an air of superiority on these threads by so called asexuals - "oh how disgusting, you like smelly yucky sex, can't believe how primitive your urges are"

I haven't seen it in this thread.

Gwenhwyfar · 22/08/2023 12:08

"Come out as asexual though... It's like everyone stops and turns and looks...

"I don't like or enjoy sex of any kind and could live my entire life never having it again""

I'd disagree with that, at least for women. I actually think society chooses to see certain people as asexual. If you've got a bit of an uptight, prissy demeanour people can imagine it about you anyway. I've just seen it in a TV series and a novel.

Jifmicroliquid · 22/08/2023 12:10

The OP is getting a hard time on this thread and it’s typical of people who don’t understand something or can’t relate to someone different to them.
I genuinely have no romantic feelings for anyone. I don’t feel attraction, sexual or otherwise. I don’t get crushes and I have never been in love or felt love in a relationship. Having someone in my bed makes me feel gross because I find people have a smell about them. I don’t like being hugged, kissed or held.
When I have sex it is simply a deed and has no meaning to me. I just want a shower afterwards to wash them away and go about my day. Hugging after sex is horrible to me.
My friends have just learnt to accept how I am, just as I accept them.

DragonFly98 · 22/08/2023 12:10

Asexualawakening · 22/08/2023 08:33

What would you suggest I do? I’d welcome any suggestions.

Have sex with your husband you don't have to love sex to put him first.

Gwenhwyfar · 22/08/2023 12:12

"I imagine it’s similar to being married to someone with health problems which prevent them from being intimate. You can still have a deep and loving relationship without sex."

Yes, but those people desire each other, without being able to act on it so the impact on each other's sense of self worth is quite different.

PurpleMonkeys · 22/08/2023 12:12

DragonFly98 · 22/08/2023 12:10

Have sex with your husband you don't have to love sex to put him first.

You're suggesting that OP have sex she doesn't particularly want?

Someone's never watched the consent and Tea video.

DragonFly98 · 22/08/2023 12:13

Asexualawakening · 22/08/2023 11:46

I have wondered if I am gay in the past. But I realised that it’s not that I don’t want sex with men, I don’t want sex with anyone! I tried to imagine being with a woman and nope, she can’t touch me either and I don’t want to touch her bits same as I don’t want to touch a man’s bits! Everyone please get your bits away from me lol!

How can you type lol when you are married , is this all a joke to you?

HamBone · 22/08/2023 12:16

cinnamonfrenchtoast · 22/08/2023 08:00

The same could be said about all the non asexuals telling OP she must have a medical problem 🙄

@cinnamonfrenchtoast I compared it to having a partner who is unable have sex due to a medical problem, I didn’t say that it was a medical problem.