Thread 29 Sunak: Borders, Barges and Bacteria

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Thanks pointythings

previous thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4853484-thread-28-sunak-lords-ladies-and-lame-ducks?page=1

Good luck to all with A level results today 🤞

Our ED wait time was 8 hrs last night. I know because I checked before deciding not to bother. Of course if the waiting list for an outpatients appointment was the same length as it was in 2010, it wouldn’t have got to the stage where I might need an ED appointment

I waited about the same a couple of weeks ago. Genuinely thought I’d had a stroke but the ambulance was 40 mins so managed to get up there myself. Made no difference and if it had been a stroke I waited another three hours to get triaged so that ‘golden hour’ was done and dusted. As it is it looks more likely to be MS. Which can wait till January on an ‘urgent’ referral apparently

For crying out loud, what planet is Sunak on? He doesn't appear to be in much pain to me

I’m not interested in the Musk/Zuckerberg bollock bouncing but I would genuinely love to see Rishi have a bash with either of them.

Hope results went as expected.

Hadn’t realised there was an extra page so didn’t see your post Cornetto. That sucks. January is in no way urgent.

I think my red flag symptom isn’t a red flag but a false one otherwise I would have gone. But it does need sorting out or ruling out in less than the 19week waiting list to see a consultant. Particularly since they won’t even accept a referral from physio until you haven’t got better after 4 months.

Dd did really well and was offered a place on her first choice course at her first choice university so very happy here. Student finance is underway, she just needs to decide if she wants to live in student accommodation or at home. We are close enough for either.

We spent 10hrs in a&e with her 3 weeks ago. We just need the appointment with her consultant for the results of an mri. The mri department said it would be 6 months, the consultant said 2 weeks so a slight difference of opinion. Fortunately I have the consultants secretaries number, the a&e department passed it on to get rid of me I think, so I can chase them along.

@RafaistheKingofClay thanks, it’s just all so shitty. NHS staff are in no way to blame but it’s a hard reality to accept it’s happening in the UK in 2023. I was expecting to be half robot by now based on what Tomorrows World taught me

Keep plugging away at them and good luck.

Well done @L1ttledrummergirl’s dd! How exciting.

Brilliant news @L1ttledrummergirl

Well done!

 @Cornettoninja

Best of luck to exam parents.

Congrats @L1ttledrummergirl . Exciting times for your DD.

Ah nice to read some good news - well done L1ttledrummergirl's DD.

Sorry to read that so many are struggling to be seen by medics at the moment. In what world is 4 months an urgent referral?

The SAS grade of doctors (specialist/specialty doctors, 64,000 in the NHS and in many ways the engine room) are indicating that they might ballot. Barclay really needs to talk to them.

x.com/bma_sas/status/1692110852923515040?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

I suspect he’s about as likely to talk to them as the junior doctors and consultants.

@L1ttledrummergirl congratulations to your DD, bloody well done especially since they hoiked up all the grade boundaries so ruthlessly.

@Notonthestairs our directorate (Adult& Specialist) runs on SAS grade doctors. If they strike, we're really sunk. (They should definitely strike).

Thank you everyone. It's definitely been a good day for her. She was adamant that she was getting all fails.

My recent experience of the NHS is not great, A&E was definitely understaffed and not enough cubicles. They had some strange practices as well. Every few hours, they took a role call to see who was still there, they also discussed patients in the waiting area, and allowed people with potentially life threatening issues (chest pain, cellulitis, bleeding that refused to stop), to leave the department without treatment. This was after 7 hours of waiting following triage.

After 9 hours, a clinician went around the waiting room taking everyone's blood pressure, When he had done everyone there was a shift change, and two clinicians sat in the waiting room and started at the top of the list working their way down to do the exact same thing again. I was sleep deprived so did ask why, and on being told that it was to check no-one was going to die, I replied that they had lasted 9 hours without being seen, I'm sure they won't have died in the half hour after they had last been checked. I also asked why it took two to do the job then, when earlier one person had managed it without making sick and injured people move.

Honestly, it was absurd, like some dystopian farce. This is the only hospital with a night A&E for four large towns and it was ridiculous. I did feel sorry for the night staff, they didn't have enough resources to actually treat patients, not even in a patch them up, send them off to come back another time.

Dd should have been seen in fracture clinic within 72 hrs, when she called them after that time, she was asked if she was still in pain, and want to be treated. I called the following day as still not heard and was told that the GP had sent an incorrect referral, then I was told that the care plan had been changed, I asked why the patient hadn't been involved in decisions about their care. As soon as I mentioned going private, they found dd an appointment with a trauma doctor for 8 days after the injury had happened in A&E. We are 3 weeks from when it happened with no idea of what she's done or what treatment she needs, the only reason anything has happened at all is because I've been quite robust and insistent.

The system is broken.

Bloody hell, I've written an essay.

@mibbelucieachwell you are so right. I was tempted to email Mark Sewotka when my civil service pension, as well as my state pension, both rose by 10.1% each.

how can that be right? How can I be worth 10.1% when a working person is only worth 5/6/7 % ?

some pensioners are in dire need of the 10% on their state pension. I wasn't. The tax office know what my income is. I know income related benefits are more expensive to administer, but that idiot we have as a PM is still insisting the country keep the triple lock.

Checking in.

I'm probably last to the party but thought this was an interesting thread from John Burn-Murdoch (sadly I cant access the article)

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"NEW: the Conservatives are trying to use cultural issues as a wedge to peel off voters ahead of next year’s election. Is this strategy likely to work?

My column: on.ft.com/3E3QQMg

And a thread:"

x.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1692509147613282755?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

What does everyone think about this from Labour? I really like it as a more nuanced approach than Corbyn's "Ban zero hours contracts".
Also v happy they are proposing to end the 2 years before cover for unfair dismissal.

Oops
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66547116

Yes, it is definitely a strategy. The Tories ,as ever, are always up for creating folk devils. Must say, JSO and other climate activists must be the most middle class folk devils ever.

The Labour lady on my doorstep last week said literally no one had mentioned any of those issues, perhaps air quality and over development aside.

That's a great thread. 👍

Yes I'm interested in the proposals particularly since they've said they'll consult on them as I think that's the best way to get businesses to buy in.

Results expected to be bad, let's delay the tests until after a GE

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/19/fury-as-national-health-check-of-englands-waters-delayed-by-six-years

The waterways will all be dead in 6 years.