How do British Parents feel about...

[TooBigForMyBoots]

...the Brexit vote, given how it has disadvantaged those children without dual nationality?

I'm from NI, so very fortunate that mine still have FOM. I'd be raging if anyone took that away from them.

Ah, you back on the sauce @Remembermynamealways

I am sure your grandparents would be extremely proud of you.

Love your troll style btw. You had me proper for the last couple of days.... Well played.

How has the loss of freedom on movement hit WC over the middle who are more likely to fund a year abroad. We have duel nationality but I would still be more likely to encourage the USA or Australia over most of Europe.

I would like to say all this attention from you is flattering.

You lose the argument entirely when you can’t bear to hear a viewpoint that is different from your own and resort to silly names.

I believe the common Mnet phrase for such posters is: Are you on glue?

Fortunately I am not easily offended 😌

Tell me more about this civil war that would follow for years Who's going to start it and why @Remembermynamealways?

17.4 million people that faithfully voted leave, and anyone who cares about democracy I guess.

🤣Civil war...

Let’s hope we won’t find out who is right. Your emoji would look a bit out of place.

Why will there be a civil war?

Does democracy mean that you can't change you mind?

If this is true why bother with elections every 4 years or so.

(BTW of the 9/17 of my family that voted leave only 2/17 still support it. Should I tell the 7 that have changed their minds that they're not allowed to? )

Will you be taking part in this civil war yourself @Remembermynamealways?😆

I think she might be fantasising a little too much and fancies herself as a freedom fighter or some such @TooBigForMyBoots

Will Hutton's article in Today's Observer is a sobering read. Depending on the kindness of strangers as a consequence of having no friends is a hard station.

Perhaps UK could revive manufacturing through ' import substitution ' behind tariff walls. Short to medium term. You'd need a government with serious balls though....in short supply in both parties. Something drastic needs to change as rejoining is not going to happen for many years. Its not a magic bullet either.

This is a cyclical threat. American right wingers are the same - although they usually prefer New Zealand as a bolt hole.

Not that it ever comes to pass. Of course lots of Tories are already abroad as tax fugitives . In Tuscany and not Texas as a rule. Such patriots. Who is in office doesn't trouble such people.

I'm lucky because my children have dual nationality. In fact my DD is currently working in Italy for 6 months because she wants to improve her Italian.
Nevertheless, I'm still angry about Brexit. We have all lost out - all of us, apart from the very rich like Jacob Rees Mogg, or Johnson who saw it as a way to personally profit from a leave vote.
7 years on from the vote and I still cannot see one single benefit. Only a never ending pile of disadvantages.

The Leave Campaign was built on lies. Most people have caught onto that. It's really only fantasists who are defending Brexit now.

Sadly there are an awful lot of them still around

Nah, there's not that many. It's just the few that remain are very loud and memorable for the utter ridiculous, nonsensical shite they post on the internet.🙄

Haven’t read through 13 pages or argument but I hate Brexit.

2 teens here. No FOM for working easily in Europe, improving a second language, etc etc. I resent those freedoms being taken away from the younger generations by so many older people whose working lives were over.

and yes I know not all Brexshit voters were older, but the profile skewed that way.

This is the very reason debates on Brexit always die on MN. We 'fantasists' don't want to be insulted so choose not to engage.

No doubt some leave voters would have voted differently (and I know a few remain voters who've said they'd have voted differently too). But many of us, and that includes the leave voters I know, are happy with our vote. Given half of the country voted to leave, it's unlikely to be just a handful of fantasists remaining.

There was a thread last year on this topic which remains the only one I've seen on MN where both sides shared their views in a respectful way. As a result, it was a genuinely interesting and enjoyable debate.

The referendum was seven years ago. Perhaps it's time to stop the offensive comments tokenly dressed up as wanting a debate? MN has become somewhat of an echo chamber as far as Brexit is concerned.

It was actually 30 something percent of the electorate who voted leave - a very small percentage higher than leave votes, 20% or so of eligible voters who didn't vote. Then there were those ineligible to vote, including foreign nationals living here.

You would only need a tiny proportion of the country to change it's mind, plus new young voters to be eligible to vote and older ones to pass away, for there to be a pro-eu majority.

We'll end up going back in, and doing so with the euro and reduced vetos and rebates etc. Because it's hurting our economy and still continue to do so because it's a batshit idea.

You would only need a tiny proportion of the country to change it's mind, plus new young voters to be eligible to vote and older ones to pass away, for there to be a pro-eu majority.

By their very nature, referendums are at a point in time. It's not a running tally of who'd vote differently seven years later. However, I find it vanishingly unlikely that the U.K. would join the euro. And on that note, I'll bow out.

The problem with the referendum, is that for such a major change they should either have insisted on 60-40 or 65-35 OR they should have said if slight majority in favour like we had, then a repeat referendum after say 3 years before proceeding.

I would feel the same re any referendum regarding other major things such as breaking up the union (see Scotland just wanting to keep trying to get just over 50%) or removing the monarchy.

If we rejoin the EU, we join the Euro.

This was one of the reasons it was so catastrophically stupid to vote to leave in 2016. We had a deal that worked for us - we kept the pound, we had significant rebates.

But too many people fell for the nationalistic and racist Leave campaign’s promises so we left.

And it’s not about Edwin and his gap year in the Dordogne. It’s about chronic labour shortages that mean the NHS and agriculture are fucked. And it won’t be the prosperous middle or upper classes who suffer.