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The immigrant barge - what’s actually wrong with using it?

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NC523 · 08/08/2023 18:16

Educate me!

I looked at pics from the inside, it all looks very much like standard student accommodation to me, including common rooms/relaxation areas/health support on board. Residents can go on & off the boat, it’s passed fire etc safety and been used to house people in lots of other situations. I don’t understand why people think it’s not ok. Can anyone explain please?

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inamarina · 13/08/2023 17:28

Luckydip1 · 13/08/2023 16:03

@inamarina if you think there are no racists in this country, you need to have your head examined. What do you think drove the Brexit vote, it certainly wasn't economics.

Where did I say I thought there were no racist in this country?

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 17:30

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 17:22

They probably want Sunak to pay differently to everyone else with on the same tax code.

It’s on repeat this empty house and tax stuff, not sure if they answer any direct questions

Agreed,

An elderly relative died and left me a country cottage. (Whoopee! says you, how quaint ! - err nooo. ) No central heating, no damp course, no mains drainage, on a non-adopted lane with no parking.

It took me a year to clear it out and another 6 months to get it fit to live in, so I could sell it.

Technically it was 'unoccupied' but it wasn't available for a year, and then only to a limited market.

Figures don't tell you everything.

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 17:35

Luckydip1 · 13/08/2023 16:03

@inamarina if you think there are no racists in this country, you need to have your head examined. What do you think drove the Brexit vote, it certainly wasn't economics.

So all 17,410, 742 of the Brexit voters are 'racist' ?

That's interesting.

So what's your definition of 'racist'?

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 17:39

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 17:35

So all 17,410, 742 of the Brexit voters are 'racist' ?

That's interesting.

So what's your definition of 'racist'?

A lot of them are dead now. I wonder how many are left?

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 17:41

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 17:39

A lot of them are dead now. I wonder how many are left?

Enough that both parties want their votes at the next GE

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 17:45

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 17:39

A lot of them are dead now. I wonder how many are left?

Bwaaahaaahaaa ! 😂😂

That's the funniest thing I've read for while.

So you think most of the Brexit Voters have popped their clogs by now?

It's worth being on MN to get crackers like that !

QueueEtwo · 13/08/2023 17:45

Housing crisis after 13 years Conservative Govt
NHS Waiting lists a record high after 13 years of Conservative Govt

None of this is caused by refuges arriving on boats, the Govt blamed the EU for all our woes & now we're out they're blaming someone else!

£1.5 billion on a barge with no-one on it!
£120 million on the Rwanda scheme that no-one has been flown out on!

Honestly don't fall for it!

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 17:48

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 17:45

Bwaaahaaahaaa ! 😂😂

That's the funniest thing I've read for while.

So you think most of the Brexit Voters have popped their clogs by now?

It's worth being on MN to get crackers like that !

A fair number of them will have, given the demographic of the leave vote. Why you think it’s so funny? Old people die.

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 17:51

@QueueEtwo NHS Waiting lists a record high after 13 years of Conservative Govt

Don't forget to factor in small boat arrivals all get a health check whichis time consuming and soaks up valuable resources.

ww.gov.uk/guidance/assessing-new-patients-from-overseas-migrant-health-guide#checklist-for-assessing-migrant-patients

QueueEtwo · 13/08/2023 18:07

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 17:51

@QueueEtwo NHS Waiting lists a record high after 13 years of Conservative Govt

Don't forget to factor in small boat arrivals all get a health check whichis time consuming and soaks up valuable resources.

ww.gov.uk/guidance/assessing-new-patients-from-overseas-migrant-health-guide#checklist-for-assessing-migrant-patients

Really? 🙄

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 18:08

QueueEtwo · 13/08/2023 18:07

Really? 🙄

Yes, really, check out the link.

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 18:09

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 18:08

Yes, really, check out the link.

It doesn’t work.

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 18:10

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 17:39

A lot of them are dead now. I wonder how many are left?

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't.

So what's your definition of 'racist'.

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 18:12

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 18:10

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't.

So what's your definition of 'racist'.

Wow, that was a quick change of subject! Why do you ask?

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 18:14

Is it only those who voted for Brexit who vote generally on immigration issues and once they’re dead that’s it all resolved and politicians from both sides stop chasing them at GEs

I doubt it somehow. Otherwise what with them being dead and all the next GE wouldn’t mention immigration and just fight over remain voters

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 18:14

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 18:12

Wow, that was a quick change of subject! Why do you ask?

Because people are talking about 'racists' hence the question.

Let's all agree what 'they' are and we could maybe have a meaningful discussion with the same parameters.

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 18:15

That link doesn’t indicate small boat arrivals all get a health check at all. It gives health care professionals guidelines for a first appointment.

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 18:15

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 18:14

Because people are talking about 'racists' hence the question.

Let's all agree what 'they' are and we could maybe have a meaningful discussion with the same parameters.

Let’s not. I don’t want to.

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 18:17

It’s a bit Monty Python the Brexit lot are dead

It might be a surprise for some that immigration issues will only get more pronounced as climate worsens

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 18:18

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 18:17

I gave you the simplified one.
Is this better?

https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj-2021-068821

That doesn’t say they all get an assessment either.

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 18:20

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 18:15

Let’s not. I don’t want to.

I don't know why not?

If people are going to bandy insulting words about then other people on this thread need to know what is meant.

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 18:21

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 18:20

I don't know why not?

If people are going to bandy insulting words about then other people on this thread need to know what is meant.

I haven’t bandied insulting words about though. You can check all my posts in this thread and you won’t find any.

EllenVannen · 13/08/2023 18:23

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 18:18

That doesn’t say they all get an assessment either.

Where you not aware that screening' means an assessment?

Viz ;"Sexual health screening When warranted, offer a full sexual health screen—including testing for HIV, hepatitis B and C, syphilis, chlamydia, and gonorrhoea—as part of an overall health assessment, taking care to be culturally sensitive (for example, some migrants may wish to discuss this only with health professionals of the same gender). Consider that if the person has a history of sexual assault or rape; they may struggle to disclose their trauma. A trauma informed approach is recommended."

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