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Stepdd doesn’t sleep, fair to ban from sleep overs?

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Jeffersdya · 28/07/2023 12:00

Stepdd is 8 and doesn’t sleep through the night.
She wakes every 2 hours and will play with toys/read a book to then run wild around the house until she falls asleep again on the spot, then repeat.
She does this regardless of where she is sleeping - either at my house with her dad and I, at her grandparents house (dp parents who will no longer have her for this reason) or at her house with her mum.
Despite being told to stay in bed and be quiet, she won’t. I’m at the end of my tether being woken non stop, as I’m such a light sleeper I can’t settle until it‘s quiet and she’s definitely asleep. It’s causing arguments between dp and I because he won’t set firm boundaries about this and makes excuses to avoid telling her off.
I’ve suggested it may not be behavioural but health related, and she needs to see a doctor. Cue abuse from dp ex for suggesting such a thing.
I’m fed up with hearing excuses when an 8 year old should be able to sleep in bigger stretches than 2 hours and should know it’s not acceptable to disturb others in the night.
I’ve now refused for her to sleep at my house again unless help is sought and the issue is resolved. I’m being bombarded with messages telling me I’m an awful person and I’m bullying stepdd, from dp ex family. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want to sleep a full night in my own home and expect boundaries and respect from dp to ensure that happens.
Now I’m doubting myself and that I should put up with it because ‘it’s what kids do’.
What’s your take on it?

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villamariavintrapp · 01/08/2023 15:26

Sounds like you've made the best decision. Hard to respect a man who can't be bothered to look after his own child, or provide her with somewhere safe to sleep.

Weflewinstyle · 01/08/2023 15:48

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Phoenixfire1988 · 02/08/2023 13:32

An 8 year old waking every 2 hours is not normal or healthy and your suggestion of seeing a doctor is a good one imo , if they don't want to get her help and admit something is wrong with her then you shouldn't have to put up with it

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Phoenixfire1988 · 02/08/2023 13:36

She has to put up with it because is refusing to admit the child has a problem and needs to see a doctor this isn't normal behaviour at all

Whitestuanton · 02/08/2023 16:31

StillPerplexed · 28/07/2023 12:06

I think it's not unreasonable to look into medical reasons, to at least rule it out. I get how you feel, I hate my own sleep being disturbed, but this girl isn't being like this to annoy you. It's probably best to keep an open conversation and try to reach some kind of agreement about sleep. (Like, even if she gets up, she stays in her room at night.)

Think is very unlikely a child of this age could auto wake herself up every two hours to be annoying. Presumably if she was setting an alarm she would have been rumbled by now.

Whitestuanton · 02/08/2023 16:34

Jeffersdya · 28/07/2023 12:11

Its my house not dp hence me calling it a sleepover and not visitation. He would usually have her at his parents house but they have also refused for her to sleep there, they’re in their 70s and can’t cope with her hyperactivity so I offered and now deeply regret it.
its 2 weekends on 2 weekends off plus occasionally once on week days.
She has huge black bags under her eyes but doesn’t seem to feel tiredness. She is hyper throughout the day too so you’d assume she slept well. I did consider autism or adhd but didn’t want to label unfairly if this isn’t the cause.
She’s supposed to stay this weekend and I’m absolutely dreading it, if she doesn’t stay here then dp will have to take her back home to sleep which won’t go down well with his ex. He’s a good dad but he hasn’t a clue how to deal with situations like this.

As her father he can take her to the doctors without his wife's permission. You don't have an ex wife problem you have Partner problem.

LesserSpottedDalmation · 02/08/2023 22:27

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FriendsDrinkBook · 03/08/2023 08:06

@LesserSpottedDalmation autistic people can empathise. That's really insulting.

Psyclops · 03/08/2023 11:13

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FriendsDrinkBook · 03/08/2023 11:40

@Psyclops yep. People really should learn a little about autism so that they stop and think before making such statements.

CruCru · 03/08/2023 12:13

Well done OP. The ex and his ex partner sound a total nightmare … and are no longer your problem.

Take some time to do some things you enjoy now. Meet up with friends. Go walking (if you enjoy that). A weight has been lifted from your shoulders.

Gemlh · 03/08/2023 22:01

Kick her out of a house that’s hers? She’s already said it’s her house not her partners.

Gemlh · 03/08/2023 22:02

It’s not her dads home though.

Backstreets · 03/08/2023 22:10

Well done OP! I’m sure your ex is a nice guy but he has a lot of baggage he needs to learn how to handle himself, not fob off on a partner. Hopefully this is the kick up the arse he needs to get his little girl some help and better boundaries with the mum.

Yazzi · 11/08/2023 09:37

FloweryName · 28/07/2023 12:06

How often does she stay with you? Banning a child from her own fathers home seems incredibly harsh. It’s not her fault.

Crazy that it took so long for this to be said!!

Of course you are being cruel and unreasonable for banning an eight year old child from sleeping at her father's home!!!

If you had kids with an ex, would you ban them from your own home for similar reasons?

Poor poor child.

aSofaNearYou · 11/08/2023 09:39

@Yazzi Did you bother to read the thread at all?

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 11/08/2023 09:41

It wasn’t the dads home he was cocklodging.

He had a home he could’ve taken her to.

Luckily she’s dumped him now so the ball is back in the parents court now.

NowItsLikeSnowAtTheBeach · 11/08/2023 09:55

Yazzi · 11/08/2023 09:37

Crazy that it took so long for this to be said!!

Of course you are being cruel and unreasonable for banning an eight year old child from sleeping at her father's home!!!

If you had kids with an ex, would you ban them from your own home for similar reasons?

Poor poor child.

FFS, read the thread.

OP has (rightfully and sensibly) ended the relationship.

It wasn't her father's home. He didn't live there. He couldn't take her to where he was living at the time, he had a room in a shared house, so OP had graciously allowed him to do sleepover visits at hers. Which wasn't working.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 11/08/2023 10:07

Crazy that it took so long for this to be said!!

Do you think that if it took, like, 21 pages there might be some facts or backstory that you might possibly have missed?

FFS.

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 11/08/2023 11:10

I wouldn't want to be up every 2 hours either. If anyone wants to sign up to that I'm sure op can give you his number.

Or just set your alarm for every 2 hours tonight and see how you feel in the morning.

Ladyj84 · 11/08/2023 11:58

Clearly something is wrong bless her. Sounds like a higher functioning autism or similar. My young brother has it and before meds we were lucky to get 2 hours of peace and quiet

Teateaandmoretea · 11/08/2023 18:38

Yazzi · 11/08/2023 09:37

Crazy that it took so long for this to be said!!

Of course you are being cruel and unreasonable for banning an eight year old child from sleeping at her father's home!!!

If you had kids with an ex, would you ban them from your own home for similar reasons?

Poor poor child.

It isn’t her fathers home. He is too much of a loser to provide one for her. The OP is just his ex girlfriend who unusually for mumsnet has seen the sense to see the light and run for the hills.

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