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Would you apply for a job that you morally disagree with in my situation?

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Beezknees · 17/07/2023 17:53

Was made redundant not long ago. I'm a single mum, living in rented accommodation. Don't have a huge amount of savings and I'm now having to claim full UC and JSA. DS is 15 so childcare is not an issue, I'm applying for anything and everything that's suitable as I really don't want to be out of work for long. I've got no qualifications or specialist knowledge, I was a lone parent by 18 and have always worked whatever fit around DS, so I can't really afford to be fussy and the market is tough right now.

I have my CV up on various job sites and had a message from somebody who likes my CV and has invited me to apply for a job. The money is probably better than anything I'd get elsewhere but I'm not sure if I could do a job where I morally disagree with some of the fundamentals (it is a charity but there is a religious element to the organisation without being too outing) I am not religious and don't really agree with the notion of organised religion.

Would you apply?

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Saucery · 17/07/2023 17:54

For a charity, yes, I would apply. For an abbatoir, no.

Clymene · 17/07/2023 17:55

You're a single parent, you've got no qualifications and the money is good. Unless they're trafficking children or doing some other ethically awful thing, I think you should hold your nose.

Hoppinggreen · 17/07/2023 17:56

I agree with you about organised religion but in your shoes I apply for this job for a bit to get experience before moving on.
My red line would be anything related to animal cruelty- I did work in Pharma and quit when visiting head office once and seeing beagles brought into the research facility. Having said that I am fortunate enough to have the luxury of having a red line

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Nowitstarts · 17/07/2023 17:56

I don't think you'll get it TBH, it will come across that you don't support their work.

If really desperate I'd take it short term, but I'd be miserable in a job where I didn't support the aims

Beezknees · 17/07/2023 17:58

Clymene · 17/07/2023 17:55

You're a single parent, you've got no qualifications and the money is good. Unless they're trafficking children or doing some other ethically awful thing, I think you should hold your nose.

It's do to with the C of E. So who knows. 😂

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Beezknees · 17/07/2023 17:59

Nowitstarts · 17/07/2023 17:56

I don't think you'll get it TBH, it will come across that you don't support their work.

If really desperate I'd take it short term, but I'd be miserable in a job where I didn't support the aims

You're probably right there!

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AlligatorPsychopath · 17/07/2023 18:00

It would depend on the degree of my objection.

Not so long ago, I desperately wanted out of my job and one of the big tobacco companies was hiring for exactly the role I wanted, for ages. I didn't apply. I thought about it, but I could not picture myself for a second feeling good about living off money made from tobacco sales. I would also not take the pay of any org that criticised gay marriage/ undermined abortion rights/supported racist policies. I wasn't in financial straits, though; just stressed and miserable.

I value being able to look at myself in the mirror and feel at least neutral about what my employer does, but if it came down to a roof over the DC's head, in the short term, I'd do what I had to do

Babdoc · 17/07/2023 18:03

For goodness’ sake, OP, get a grip! The C of E is not some fundamentalist brainwashing cult, it’s one of the biggest charity providers in the country. They do sterling work providing warm hubs for pensioners, running and supporting food banks, operating schools and care homes, coordinating outreach care to vulnerable people in the community.
If you disapprove so heartily of helping those in need, fine, stay on benefits.

Beezknees · 17/07/2023 18:07

Babdoc · 17/07/2023 18:03

For goodness’ sake, OP, get a grip! The C of E is not some fundamentalist brainwashing cult, it’s one of the biggest charity providers in the country. They do sterling work providing warm hubs for pensioners, running and supporting food banks, operating schools and care homes, coordinating outreach care to vulnerable people in the community.
If you disapprove so heartily of helping those in need, fine, stay on benefits.

They also stand outside abortion centres hassling scared vulnerable women which is a big issue for me.

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KnickerlessParsons · 17/07/2023 18:08

If it's something like The Bible Society then I'd apply. They might favour a practising Christian over a non-believer though (are they allowed to?

Nowitstarts · 17/07/2023 18:09

Beezknees · 17/07/2023 18:07

They also stand outside abortion centres hassling scared vulnerable women which is a big issue for me.

Thr C of E do? But I don't think you said it's C of E.

Beezknees · 17/07/2023 18:11

Nowitstarts · 17/07/2023 18:09

Thr C of E do? But I don't think you said it's C of E.

They are linked to the C of E, I mentioned upthread.

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Augustus40 · 17/07/2023 18:11

I expect the op is referring to the Salvation Army.

WeWereInParis · 17/07/2023 18:12

Despite agreeing with your views, a genera religious charity I would work for if it was that or nothing.

An anti-choice organisation is an example of somewhere I wouldn't work.

Clarachuff · 17/07/2023 18:17

I probably don't agree with everything most of my previous employers were ( banks) into but I need to eat

toochesterdraws · 17/07/2023 18:23

Beezknees · 17/07/2023 18:07

They also stand outside abortion centres hassling scared vulnerable women which is a big issue for me.

Anglicans tend not to do that.

There will always be religious nutters of whatever faith who will vociferously demonstrate against women's rights, but I wouldn't have said that the C of E are particularly known for it. One or two other Christian denominations yes, but not usually them.

Beezknees · 17/07/2023 18:25

toochesterdraws · 17/07/2023 18:23

Anglicans tend not to do that.

There will always be religious nutters of whatever faith who will vociferously demonstrate against women's rights, but I wouldn't have said that the C of E are particularly known for it. One or two other Christian denominations yes, but not usually them.

That makes me feel a little better, thanks.

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Ponderingwindow · 17/07/2023 18:26

i have done work I find slightly morally objectionable before. I have had clients that I didn’t love working with, but working for most religious organizations is not something I personally would classify as slightly morally objectionable. It is a line on the sand that I will not cross. It really depends on where you stand on organized religion and how desperate for money you are. I am sitting here with money in the bank saying it is too far for me, but maybe it wouldn’t be if I was worried about providing for my family.

LakeTiticaca · 17/07/2023 18:27

Depends whether or not you can afford to have scruples OP, not everyone can

NoSquirrels · 17/07/2023 18:27

No, I would not work for any religious organisation who harasses women who need to attend an abortion clinic.

There’s a lot of ‘churches’ I would not support. I say this as a CofE member.

Lolasgame · 17/07/2023 18:33

Augustus40 · 17/07/2023 18:11

I expect the op is referring to the Salvation Army.

Salvation Army turn people from LGBTQ community away or try and convert them.

changingmyname143 · 17/07/2023 18:34

I think it depends on the role, and how strongly you feel about it. If you're doing finance administration I would say that feels less conflicted than, you know, abortion activist event manager. Being flippant but - you get the drift.

Nowitstarts · 17/07/2023 18:35

Lolasgame · 17/07/2023 18:33

Salvation Army turn people from LGBTQ community away or try and convert them.

The minister at our Salvation Army church wears a rainbow badge.

changingmyname143 · 17/07/2023 18:35

Oh and I used to work in tobacco. LOVED it. Best company I worked for. The pay, the opportunities, the benefits, the work life balance. Ultimately for me that all made up for the fact it's a pretty gross product.

Allotment123 · 17/07/2023 18:35

I wouldn't work for arms or tobacco, would work for the MOD but not in defence equipment or supplies as I think there is a difference between defending your country and actively selling / exporting weapons to other regimes