Would you apply for a job that you morally disagree with in my situation?

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Was made redundant not long ago. I'm a single mum, living in rented accommodation. Don't have a huge amount of savings and I'm now having to claim full UC and JSA. DS is 15 so childcare is not an issue, I'm applying for anything and everything that's suitable as I really don't want to be out of work for long. I've got no qualifications or specialist knowledge, I was a lone parent by 18 and have always worked whatever fit around DS, so I can't really afford to be fussy and the market is tough right now.

I have my CV up on various job sites and had a message from somebody who likes my CV and has invited me to apply for a job. The money is probably better than anything I'd get elsewhere but I'm not sure if I could do a job where I morally disagree with some of the fundamentals (it is a charity but there is a religious element to the organisation without being too outing) I am not religious and don't really agree with the notion of organised religion.

Would you apply?

Most CoE bishops aren't even Christian these days. It's very sad.

Go for the interview. You can find out more about them and make a decision if you are offered the job

Eh?? In what way?

I don't really see the problem OP. It sounds like you're not very clear on their position so I wouldn't turn down the job on hearsay.

I've been unemployed for less than 2 weeks through no fault of my own. That's why the system is there.

How odd. I've done work for the YMCA/YWCA and they aren't bad. The Salvation Army I wouldn't again (weird alcohol treatment advice I found very odd).

But any Sikh temple giving out food, Jewish charity or the Red Crescent? Why on earth wouldn't you? I mean the Red Cross hang out with them, why wouldn't you? It's just the same thing, operating in Muslim countries as far as I know!

Oh and the idea that principles are only principles for rich people is pretty disgusting. Poor people just have to forget having morals? Yuk.

In what way?

Not sure what point you’re making…

@Whatthediddlyfeck - at what income bracket are people allowed to have morals? Please enlighten us.

This. MIL is a C of E vicar, divorced herself and remarried, and was a young single mum once. She would never judge a woman for having an abortion or finding herself in a precarious situation. She's see her as a scared woman who thinks she has no other choice and would offer support if asked for it. She's even worked with criminals and drug addicts before and didn't judge - she just wanted to help them. You get nutters and radicals of any religion and denomination.
My friend also worked in admin for C of E. She is not religious but said they were a great employer. She had good vibes there, and just did the job. Good job security, career progression if she wanted it, few perks.
If you need the money, yes I would go for it. You can always keep job searching.

When they’re not unemployed and in receipt of benefits

The snidey "unemployed on benefits" nonsense as if it's something to be ashamed of.

Well I am guessing you must be unemployed and on benefits then because I can’t imagine anyone with a working moral compass having such a repugnant attitude.

I take objection to that. A tiny proportion of Christians do this. It’s an already absolutely minescule percentage and almost none of them are C of E.

I have never heard of CofE members/churches doing that. Ever.

You seem to have confused them with fundamentalist evangelicals.

But don’t work for C of E if you don’t agree with us. I’d really like the people I ring up for help with a building situation or who support us with our refugee work to be happy to be there 😁

I think you might be confusing c of w with Catholic. C of e are not really anti abortion, are pro contraception, tolerant of homosexuality even in vicars and run surely half the primary schools in the country. They are possibly pro life but not anti abortion and they are massively anti judgement and will help anyone. Tbh you are judging them for no reason.

I think it depends on what kind of country you come from, what you've been indoctrinated to accept as the basest form of human rights.

For example, from personal experience, many in poor countries see labour laws (eg abour overtime or workplace safety) as a privilege and not a basic right. Meanwhile, many in the US see healthcare as a privilege and not a basic right.

I have lived in countries where the support system is quite equal and robust, not quite universal basic income but close, and generally the view is that people thrive if given the opportunity to do work they enjoy and believe in.

I do know what you mean, you can't be too fussy if you're relying on others, but to make an indoctrinated blanket statement like that is a bit sad I suppose.

The C of E church do not protest outside clinics but their official position is to be anti abortion and they are clear that they use their position in the House of Lords to block any extension of abortion limits.

C of E is basically just Diet Catholic.

OP, in your shoes I’d focus on what the organisation does well - religious organisations perform a whole range of functions, some of which will align with your beliefs/morals, and some of which won’t. Most people who work for large organisations could say the same thing to a greater or lesser degree. So, spending money on bibles to put in hotel rooms might be a negative, but providing practical debt advice, or supporting homeless people might be a positive. Focus on behaviours not beliefs and that will help you decide what you can and can’t live with.

Depends on your needs - if it's slightly discomforting then I could put up with it while I found something better. I have been in a couple of situations where I became dissatisfied with the way things are run and organised a discreet exit.

I know of someone who ended up at Stonewall out of economic necessity. I would never work somewhere that has become so morally corrupted (used to think it was a positive organisation until a few years ago).

There are a long list of organisations I would not work for - pretty much the whole mainstream press and TV , the tech giants, most investment banks.

I'm lucky enough to be able to pick and choose though and I understand why it can be a real dilemna

Really? News to me

It’s absolutely nothing to be ashamed of-I was there myself 30+ years ago but took the first job I was offered

I would take the first job I was offered, I haven't been offered this one yet. It was just about applying.

Have they not made anti abortion statements?