Would you apply for a job that you morally disagree with in my situation?

[Beezknees]

Was made redundant not long ago. I'm a single mum, living in rented accommodation. Don't have a huge amount of savings and I'm now having to claim full UC and JSA. DS is 15 so childcare is not an issue, I'm applying for anything and everything that's suitable as I really don't want to be out of work for long. I've got no qualifications or specialist knowledge, I was a lone parent by 18 and have always worked whatever fit around DS, so I can't really afford to be fussy and the market is tough right now.

I have my CV up on various job sites and had a message from somebody who likes my CV and has invited me to apply for a job. The money is probably better than anything I'd get elsewhere but I'm not sure if I could do a job where I morally disagree with some of the fundamentals (it is a charity but there is a religious element to the organisation without being too outing) I am not religious and don't really agree with the notion of organised religion.

Would you apply?

@MrsTerryPratchett - I realised that after I posted, my apologies!

No worries!

I’m sure some taxpayers are doing jobs you morally disagree with but you’re ok to take their money… So yes I think you should take the job

Ignorant vibes 🙄

Yes, unemployment benefit as it was then, you say you’ve been unemployed 2 weeks and are claiming so what’s your point?

Eh? I’m not the OP. I am fortunate enough to have never needed to claim benefits. I still think those that do have the same rights as the rest of us.

Yes I do. We all have a right to be supported if we're in need.

I haven't been offered the job. I've been invited to apply.

Yes, I am happy to "take their money" as I paid tax myself until 2 weeks ago when I was made redundant because the company I worked for went bust. That's what it is there for and unfortunately as a lone parent I don't have the luxury of having stacks of savings in the bank. Also, I HAVE to put a claim in as a condition of my redundancy, they will deduct it from the notice pay that I can get whether I claim or not, so if I don't then I miss out on money.

Honestly what a stupid comment.

They don't. It tends to be more fundamental types. Anyway UC will be at you to find a job so you can't be picky.

UC won't let someone of working age presumably without disability or young children not apply for jobs. Just to warn you.

I know how it works, but they don't know what I haven't applied for. They don't sit there forcing you to apply for jobs in front of them, you update your journal with what you've applied for and they tell you if it's enough or not. I've done about 30 over the last week and they're happy with that.

@Beezknees Bit touchy. No one said you hadn’t paid tax before. You asked whether you should accept money from the C of E which you have a moral objection to. My point is that you will be accepting money from the C of E by accepting UC and JSA as other taxpayers Will be working for the C of E. The only way to be in control of where your money comes from is to earn it all yourself. No need to insult people replying to the question YOU asked!

I sometimes think that some of us who are atheists are more judgemental than many religious people.

Unless this group is actively campaigning outside abortion clinics, you seem to have generalised the behaviour of a tiny proportion of religious people to judge this organisation.

I am lucky to work with and have relatives who have a faith, yet are accepting of others and broadly liberal in their thinking. One of my in law relatives is a vicar and she is absolutely pro-choice, even though she wouldn't choose abortion for herself. In fact I don't know a single religious person who is as judgy and makes such sweeping generalisations as you seem to be, OP.
You still haven't said what it is that makes you think this organisation is immoral.

I didn't ask that though. I asked for thoughts on applying for a job. I didn't ask for opinions on benefits.

@saraclara - I am glad you’ve had a positive experience with organised religion and it’s members. Unfortunately many of us have not had the same experience. As with your generalisation of religious people not being judgemental, I have found the opposite. I have been called a baby killer on MN for example by someone professing to be C of E. I have been told I am going to hell by a Baptist and a Muslim (on separate occasions) because I confessed to being an atheist.

In your situation I would apply and then make a decision if they offer you the role. I am not religious in any way, but I have worked for and with several religious organisations over the years, and unless this is a front line role on an activist group, you can afford to park your scruples whilst you earn some money!

I'm also on UC as a single mum, so I get it completely...and making a high level moral judgement is a luxury, unless what this organisation does is so repugnant to you that you really couldn't do the job. Get yourself some experience and some cash, and then you'll have potential to look for something you feel more in agreement with, if that's necessary (and it may not be).

I work for a C of E charity ( I’m not necessarily a believer but am Catholic ). This charity has never stood outside an abortion clinic and I’d make my feelings known if they did. Not all their employees and volunteers are church goers, although quite a few are. However, it is a very inclusive place to be and they just concentrate on their work. I’d say the more senior positions they may prefer to have believers, but not the general workers. Personally I wouldn’t tell them you don’t agree with religion, just go for the interview, do your best, then decide if you are offered the position.

DS1 worked for a temping agency and was offered work at a large betting company. He turned it down as he is very anti betting. However, he had the luxury of living at home with us, no bills etc, and the agency found him another job very quickly.

In your shoes, I would apply and, if you get it, take the job but start looking for something else. It's much easier to get another job if you've already got one.

Yes I would apply.

Makes life interesting when you rub up against people you don't necessarily agree with. They can still be good people and still do good work.

To be fair I don't see the issue in being told you are going to hell. Christians believe that non-Christians will go to hell when they die, it's not personal. You presumably don't believe you are or even nessesarily believe hell exists so why do you care? Being called a baby killer I can appreciate being offended by of course.

But it means something nasty to the person saying it doesn’t it? It was said with malice and glee. I don’t believe in hell no, but that doesn’t make it less nasty or insulting if said by someone that does. It’s not very love thy neighbour is it?

What the fuck are you on about OP? No they don't. Do you even know anything about the Church of England?

Yeah fair enough, I guess I was assuming it was said in more of a "sorry but yeah I do believe you will be going to hell" kind of way. Sorry you had to deal with someone saying it in a malicious way, that's not kind.

True. The Arch Bishop of Canterbury certainly isn't.