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Omg I had enough

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271726a · 14/07/2023 22:42

May Need to scan my other threads for this to make sense.

So there is a social worker involved due to my sons violence/aggression.

It has been said there are no worries about my other children although I did allow social worker to talk to the younger kids . And the school. They have no concern.

Now I just had the social worker email me about an hour ago . Asking me about my younger kids Jabs . Questioning me why I have not had them done and telling me i have a week to sort it. Now by law I don't have to have them done and as a parent I don't have to . But yet there they trying to force it .

To be honest I don't feel overly strong either way. I can't even remember why I did not. I had Been in temporary accommodation and then covid etc so possibly slipped my mind. So it's not the end of the world for me to sort it. What I don't like is the demands of doing it by next week. And the over the top interference of my children. When its Been agreed thus is about my 16 year old.

When we had TAC meeting a few days ago my younger children were not even mentioned. It's like they never existed.

I honestly have enough to cope with

Anyway if there are any social workers here or who l lws the system can you please explain this to me?

Just to add this is not a jab debate and I will ignore any attempts to turn it into one.

OP posts:
Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 07:53

Op out of 4 children, of which one has autism - are you honestly saying you have ever, not once, had call to use a local GP service?

271726a · 16/07/2023 08:03

Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 07:53

Op out of 4 children, of which one has autism - are you honestly saying you have ever, not once, had call to use a local GP service?

My 8 year old had autism. And no I have not had to call . Thry have only ever had, cough/colds 24hr sickness tummy bug hete and there. They don't need to see a gp for them things. I don't know why it seems to be such a shock

OP posts:
PurpleBugz · 16/07/2023 08:03

@Ds16dv
If she's been to your house and sees your son separately she doesn't need to come to your house. I can't remember how often they have to see the kids but that will be the case on CIN. But if she's seeing your son then she doesn't need to come to the house. If she does to check the bedrooms when you have done say it's just a tour of house you don't want to discuss unless you can record. Or get someone to be with you.

Communication can be via email.

I have CIN meetings online and insist they record and send me the recordings.

ADHD could be a disability too. Definitely look into getting a children with disabilities SW if you can.

Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 08:06

271726a · 16/07/2023 08:03

My 8 year old had autism. And no I have not had to call . Thry have only ever had, cough/colds 24hr sickness tummy bug hete and there. They don't need to see a gp for them things. I don't know why it seems to be such a shock

So how did you get the referral for autism assessment without going to a GP

Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 08:07

271726a · 16/07/2023 08:03

My 8 year old had autism. And no I have not had to call . Thry have only ever had, cough/colds 24hr sickness tummy bug hete and there. They don't need to see a gp for them things. I don't know why it seems to be such a shock

Because most of us on this site are mothers op

so we know that to have 4 children, of which one has autism, and to have NEVER, not once consulted a medical professional just rings alarm bells

271726a · 16/07/2023 08:10

PurpleBugz · 16/07/2023 08:03

@Ds16dv
If she's been to your house and sees your son separately she doesn't need to come to your house. I can't remember how often they have to see the kids but that will be the case on CIN. But if she's seeing your son then she doesn't need to come to the house. If she does to check the bedrooms when you have done say it's just a tour of house you don't want to discuss unless you can record. Or get someone to be with you.

Communication can be via email.

I have CIN meetings online and insist they record and send me the recordings.

ADHD could be a disability too. Definitely look into getting a children with disabilities SW if you can.

At the time of this things I'm talking about the 16 year old was with his sister. So yes she was coming to me. Then going to him at his sisters . But he's now back home . So she will need to come here . I do get why she come here because she needed to talk to the younger kids and see how they feel etc.

There's no diagnosis yet so disability sw won't happen

OP posts:
Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 08:12

So you have self diagnosed your son is autistic

you haven’t bothered to go to a Gp with your concerns in order to get a diagnosis and begin the process for extra support at school etc

great. Just great

PurpleBugz · 16/07/2023 08:13

Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 08:12

So you have self diagnosed your son is autistic

you haven’t bothered to go to a Gp with your concerns in order to get a diagnosis and begin the process for extra support at school etc

great. Just great

No that was me making that assumption based on the younger one being on the pathway not OP

271726a · 16/07/2023 08:16

Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 08:06

So how did you get the referral for autism assessment without going to a GP

Omg at the time my son was around 18 / 2 years I forgot . I could find his paper work and look. Anyway there was a health visitor who dome a development check and ste was concerned about development. She referred to a peadatrition who works in place for children with special needs/autism etc. It was not dome via my GP.

I'm.no longer answer your questions.

OP posts:
Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 08:16

The 8 year old seem the several times and other professionals due to autism pathway.

and this happened without any medical involvement in his entire life

surely others on this thread are concerned by Op saying that in almost 20 years of parenting with 4 children, one of whom has suspected autism, she has NEVER consulted a medical professional

271726a · 16/07/2023 08:17

PurpleBugz · 16/07/2023 08:13

No that was me making that assumption based on the younger one being on the pathway not OP

My son has a diagnosis

OP posts:
bumblebee2903 · 16/07/2023 08:21

I remember one of your other threads... tbh I think you have a mean worker.. my social worker was completely opposite. Really chilled, easy to talk to, very supportive. I had one concern and she laughed saying there are no issues on a subject, I'm pretty sure on this concern your worker would go mental 😅

My worker would have probably explained why xyz was a concern to their checklist or whatever. From your posts it sounds like yours is setting you up to fail. I only had positive experience with my social worker.

Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 08:21

271726a · 16/07/2023 08:17

My son has a diagnosis

How did you get a diagnosis without never going to a Gp?

271726a · 16/07/2023 08:22

Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 08:16

The 8 year old seem the several times and other professionals due to autism pathway.

and this happened without any medical involvement in his entire life

surely others on this thread are concerned by Op saying that in almost 20 years of parenting with 4 children, one of whom has suspected autism, she has NEVER consulted a medical professional

Where did i say wr have not had a gp for (20) years .

Are you getting a kick out of this. It seems you are

OP posts:
Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 08:25

Oh fgs I give up

YPU said you’d never had need to go to a Gp as “calpol” had always fixed it and just 24 hour bugs

FFS this is impossible!

Herewego81 · 16/07/2023 08:27

271726a · 16/07/2023 08:22

Where did i say wr have not had a gp for (20) years .

Are you getting a kick out of this. It seems you are

Multiple times on this thread you have said you have never had to go to a Gp for any of your children. And I’m guessing your older daughter with a baby is what… 18? 19? So near on 20byears

Omg I had enough
271726a · 16/07/2023 08:36

Icedlatteplease · 16/07/2023 07:36

@Ds16dv Asking your social worker to record the conversations really shouldn't be a big deal. When I've done it as theyve come through the door I have politely told them I am recording. Our last social worker got nervous , selected her words more but she didnt chuck her phone in frustration onto the sofa when i disagreed with her so that was a win. My present social worker was brilliant, she went OK and carried on as if nothing was any different. I genuinely wouldn't bother recording her now, but she's straight as a die and calls a spade a spade

I might do that . What also concerns me is she charges words abd down plays stuff to suit her.

1st one was I had said " I would like my son to be at home as he's 16 and should be at home, but he can't because he violent" she left the end part off. ( he's home now though)

Then she sent basic notes about TAC meeting it Said . Mum says the last incident of son throwing stuff is unacceptable.

She kept out the fact that he threw it at me with force to hot me.

Then as she was leaning the other day front door open so literally out the door. My manager said your son can come home. No safety plan no nothing. No discussion just thow it at me as leaving the house

OP posts:
271726a · 16/07/2023 08:39

I'm talking about my younger children . Not my adult children.. the social worker is questioning about the 7 and 8 year old mlt the others . My adult children are nothing to do with it

OP posts:
Tiredalwaystired · 16/07/2023 08:44

I think this is just part of a national campaign as vaccination rates have dropped and there are concerns about a measles epidemic.

All parents at our school got sent something similar so I don’t think you are singled out.

But I agree it’s probably going to add a tick to their impression of you as a parent if you get it done, so it’s a win for your kids health and a win for you to just do it.

Jellycatspyjamas · 16/07/2023 08:54

surely others on this thread are concerned by Op saying that in almost 20 years of parenting with 4 children, one of whom has suspected autism, she has NEVER consulted a medical professional

I would if that’s what she was saying, but it’s not. The OP has had a long time in temporary accommodation with multiple house moves. Somewhere in all the house moves her GP de-registered her but not her children. The OP isn’t at the GPs often so didn’t realised the kids were still registered. If they did need medical care her intention would be to use services like 111, walk in centres etc because she’s struggling to register with a GP.

She hasn’t denied them medical care, they haven’t needed it. By way of reference my two are 10 and 12, I literally can’t remember the last time either of them were are at the GP. My daughter has complex health needs - she has many regular health appointments but none of them are with the GP. My son is on the neurodevelopmental pathway, again not put in place by the GP, organised through Ed Psych.

They get usual bugs and colds, but nothing you’d go to the GP for. In most circumstances a parent would be trusted to know when her child needed the GP as opposed to seeing if the pharmacist could sort whatever, I know many children who haven’t seen a GP in years and absolutely nothing sinister is going on there.

Bating the OP repeatedly on her children’s health care is unfair and uncalled for.

DogFord · 16/07/2023 09:09

Jellycatspyjamas · 16/07/2023 08:54

surely others on this thread are concerned by Op saying that in almost 20 years of parenting with 4 children, one of whom has suspected autism, she has NEVER consulted a medical professional

I would if that’s what she was saying, but it’s not. The OP has had a long time in temporary accommodation with multiple house moves. Somewhere in all the house moves her GP de-registered her but not her children. The OP isn’t at the GPs often so didn’t realised the kids were still registered. If they did need medical care her intention would be to use services like 111, walk in centres etc because she’s struggling to register with a GP.

She hasn’t denied them medical care, they haven’t needed it. By way of reference my two are 10 and 12, I literally can’t remember the last time either of them were are at the GP. My daughter has complex health needs - she has many regular health appointments but none of them are with the GP. My son is on the neurodevelopmental pathway, again not put in place by the GP, organised through Ed Psych.

They get usual bugs and colds, but nothing you’d go to the GP for. In most circumstances a parent would be trusted to know when her child needed the GP as opposed to seeing if the pharmacist could sort whatever, I know many children who haven’t seen a GP in years and absolutely nothing sinister is going on there.

Bating the OP repeatedly on her children’s health care is unfair and uncalled for.

But OP HAS said that her DC have never needed a HP, through walk in or anywhere else.

Your DC might not have needed a dr for years (mine haven’t either) but when they were little they sometimes did, and with PBF I definitely contacted them more as didn’t have experience with ill babies and sometimes wanted advice.

It’s the OP saying that they have never ever needed an HP in their lives, she has never wanted advice about them and she also didn’t turn up for any of their routine baby vaccines (which they would have been invited for if they were registered with a surgery)

271726a · 16/07/2023 09:12

Jellycatspyjamas · 16/07/2023 08:54

surely others on this thread are concerned by Op saying that in almost 20 years of parenting with 4 children, one of whom has suspected autism, she has NEVER consulted a medical professional

I would if that’s what she was saying, but it’s not. The OP has had a long time in temporary accommodation with multiple house moves. Somewhere in all the house moves her GP de-registered her but not her children. The OP isn’t at the GPs often so didn’t realised the kids were still registered. If they did need medical care her intention would be to use services like 111, walk in centres etc because she’s struggling to register with a GP.

She hasn’t denied them medical care, they haven’t needed it. By way of reference my two are 10 and 12, I literally can’t remember the last time either of them were are at the GP. My daughter has complex health needs - she has many regular health appointments but none of them are with the GP. My son is on the neurodevelopmental pathway, again not put in place by the GP, organised through Ed Psych.

They get usual bugs and colds, but nothing you’d go to the GP for. In most circumstances a parent would be trusted to know when her child needed the GP as opposed to seeing if the pharmacist could sort whatever, I know many children who haven’t seen a GP in years and absolutely nothing sinister is going on there.

Bating the OP repeatedly on her children’s health care is unfair and uncalled for.

Thank you. For explaining

OP posts:
tidalway · 16/07/2023 09:20

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

DogFord · 16/07/2023 09:22

Are you an anti-vaxxer @tidalway ? Is that why you keep coming back to this thread? Is your partner an anti-vaxxer too?

Jellycatspyjamas · 16/07/2023 09:26

It’s the OP saying that they have never ever needed an HP in their lives, she has never wanted advice about them and she also didn’t turn up for any of their routine baby vaccines (which they would have been invited for if they were registered with a surgery)

The OP is talking about her youngest children, out of 4/5 (sorry @Ds16dv i can’t remember which), as an experienced mum by the time 3/4 come along parents in my experience aren’t at the GPs every 5 minutes the way they are with their first. They know what a temperature looks like, how a tummy bug is etc and has gained confidence in the care of their child.

The OP was also in temporary accommodation for all of her youngest two kids lives. Three children, two who are infants, in insecure housing - I imagine she’s had a “just get on with it” approach to normal childhood illness. Some folk here have no idea about the challenges of life people face.

Besides which if there is a concern about unmet health needs it sounds like social work will address that, so no need to interrogate her here.

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