Social services acting unlawfully

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Hi , Moved here 8 years ago fleeing a stacking violent alcoholic rapist father. Both children are diagnosed with Dyspraxia and hyper sensory. The local authority wouldn’t accept their diagnosis reports. My son became suicidal and my other son was severely bullied. So I took them both out of school. So the head teacher wrote a nasty letter to social services and we were targeted and had our lives turned upside down. They took me to court twice but it didn’t meet the criteria for removal of my children. So they then spent 2 and half years , making our lives an absolute living hell. They told the violent father where we live and gave him one of their solicitors and treated him like a king. Gave him a positive parenting assessment and they gave me a negative parenting assessment. Social services use narcissistic abuse to provoke a reaction out of you. They use silence to make you feel uneasy. I was very aware they were recording me in my home. We were terrified of them. This is abuse. They absolutely hated me and made me suffer for 2 and a half years. They said my children aren’t disabled even thou they both told them they are. They said, it was me putting ideas into their heads. They took me to court for fabrication of illness and I was completely taken apart and made to look like a peadophile and a child murderer. They are corrupt. They actually wanted to take my children away. They won with their own biased judge. Interestingly they took me to court in a different area. 1 and a half journey out of this area. So they have my 13 year old innocent vulnerable child isolated from the people that love him. I haven’t seen him for 6 weeks and they don’t like him seeing his 17 year old brother because he’s a bad influence on him. They have been showing my children photographs and letters and trying to make them watch videos of their father. Both boys witnessed the father hit me in the face in the supermarket. I suffered 9 years of abuse from the father and his brother and sister. My children witnessed horrific violence during contact at the grandparents house.Their is police log to back this up. But the authority choose to not listen and ignore the evidence. My boy’s are being forced against their will. My children are absolutely terrified. Both children are going to have mental health issues for the rest of their lives. This authority only knows how to punish people and they do that very well. There is no care here. Your expected to drag your children to school kicking and screaming. Interestingly they don’t have any screening here for the children. They absolutely hate disabilities. Which is very cruel. I’ve been told that I will have to go back there to see my children. I won’t be able to see my children ever again. I will end up dead. This is beyond cruel. I’m also diagnosed with PTSD. We have been treated with total disregard. This is malicious punishment. I’m totally isolated and on my own. I’m really frightened for my son , he can’t defend himself. They said in court that he is easy. My very tearful and emotional. I don't know what to do or who to talk to for fear of this authority. Has anyone else experienced this before..? I could do with some support.

Sorry there is a section missing before we left the school.
I managed to get my boy’s assessed by Dyspraxia UK. I took their diagnosis reports to both schools. The P school did accept my son’s diagnosis report to start with. The Senco thanked me for helping her to understand my son.
But there was a zoom call arranged with both schools. During the zoom call with both schools I was mocked,ridiculed and laughed at by my eldest son’s Secondary school. Which changed the P schools opinion of the report. So that was the straw that broke the camels back. So we were left with no choice but to leave the school.
The schools were deliberately making everything as difficult as possible for us.

It does depend on which area you come from…?Do you have screening in your area..?
Do you have children of your own with disabilities…?

A simple screening of both children would have resolved this matter. Unfortunately they don’t screen children here for some unknown reason. I mentioned this many times to many professionals. I was meet with silence and ignored. I was told it wasn’t necessary. When it absolutely is because it would have picked up on the hidden disabilities such as processing and working memory issues. It doesn’t look as though anyone has any common sense.

You said they were screened and the professionals came to court.

Social services don't have quotas.

I am a social worker (for adults) and we have strategies to aim at eg supporting people to be independent and in control of their own lives, but we don't have quotas.

I don't know a huge amount about Children's services but I am aware that multiple professionals are involved and the decision is made by a court, not by a social worker.

I was a school governor for several years and the idea that schools lie to get a child taken into care in order to get extra funding is bonkers. It really doesn't work like that.

It all depends which area you live in..?
I thought all area’s and schools had basic dyslexic screening tools.
It would have saved us going through absolute hell for 6 years. Your not even allowed to mention disabilities..?
Its almost as though they are creating disaffected children..? Why would you do that..?
where is this all leading..?

Totally agree

Opinions of anyone labelled a professional is presented as fact.
Evidence submitted by parents is disregarded.
Parents seeking more evidence / second opinion is presented as a red flag for FII (labelled as attention seeking)
Parents complaining is also an FII ‘red flag’ (again attention seeking)
If a parent has claimed dla for their child this is a red flag too (deceiving for financial gain)

When a case gets to court, the judge will scrutinise and seek evidence to support any claim a social worker (or anyone else) has made. They don't just "believe" or "not believe" what is being presented .

I have had to stand up in court on several occasions to explain and provide evidence as to how and why I have arrived at the decision I have made.

If there is any doubt in my assessment then a safeguarded can be appointed . Someone who has the child's best interest and is independent from the LA etc. The court can also seek second opinion or an independent worker if they there is bias or discrimination at play.

As a profession social work is not perfect by any manner or means, and I believe we are getting better. But to suggest children are ripped from families just to meet "quotas" which absolutely don't exist is quite ludicrous.

If professionals think you have FII then asking for further diagnoses/assessments just supports their view.

If you don't ask for further assessments then obviously the kids don't have that diagnosis and you are making it up.

If a CONSULTANT Dr at the hospital picks up a problem and refers your child for assessment, you can still get the blame for taking a child for unnecessary and intrusive appointments.

If a CONSULTANT Dr prescribes medication for your child you can get into trouble for giving you child unprescribed medication because it wasn't prescribed by the GP .

If you have more than one child with autism you can be accused of FFI.

If you have the bad luck to have a kid with hypermobility syndrome disorder , which peer reviewed academic research by global experts shows comes with the higher possibilities of asthma, autism, allergies, stomach, bowel and bladder problems, mast cell activation, POTS, arthritis, psoriasis, headaches and other conditions you are at risk of being described as having FFI as some of these are red flag conditions.

Met various different people with these experiences at autism training and support sessions.

If you have neurodiverse mum, without a diagnosis yet you could be in big trouble as you present similar to parents with FFI.

Social workers are human, overworked, and rely on training about FFI that doesn't understand the link between HSD and other conditions and that doesn't understand how medical letters are written. Medicine and education speak a different language. Some of them are going to make mistakes. Some of them are going to be biased. Some are going to have their own political leanings and prejudices. No service is going to be mistake free.

With individual cases on the internet it's not possible to tell how close to the truth they are. Some of them will be in denial about their failings while some of them will have been failed by SC.

I think there must be more to this story. For a start what country was this primary school in? You haven't answered that.

I've worked in schools for years, no head teacher would treat a SEN pupil that way, no SENCO would keep a primary school aged pupil behind for detention for not completing work.

Did this primary school have a pool on their grounds then? Because why would a professional swimming teacher at a local pool put a non swimmer in the deep end at the head teachers request? They aren't going to do that.

Your version relies on ALOT of adults in some big conspiracy against you, and i just don't think its possible.

Friday, I had three physios trying to tell me about hypermobility syndrome. I have a child with it and 11 years of experience helping her to manage it. They were so condescending and it is so hard when I am trying to teach my child to advocate for herself.

I agree that you can never tell the parent’s actually experience on here. But when the conversation begins with how you parent, rather than at the needs of the child it is never going to be a balanced view.

I’ve only lived here for 8 years. I can’t actually say where I am . For obvious reasons. The parent is blamed , punished instantly. I’ve never seen anything like this before. I’m absolutely horrified by the mistreatment. This is the whole reason I have to come forward and speak out.
The swimming pool is a public facility. Which has been specifically designed for a Olympic sport. It’s divided into sections. The section in question is all on one level.( no deep end).

I’m talking about basic dyslexic screening tools.
Not Dyspraxia assessment.
I thought it was available in every area,school.
Available to every child free of charge.

I've worked in schools for years, no head teacher would treat a SEN pupil that way, no SENCO would keep a primary school aged pupil behind for detention for not completing work.

My autistic child was kept in for not completing enough work during primary school. Which led to worse behaviour at home. Thankfully the new secondary SENDCO recognised this would be a problem and it is now written into the support package.

It is common to hear that staff in schools don't see the same behaviour. It is known as masking. Or the pop/coke bottle effect. This is due to the lack of training in special needs in education.

(Was a teacher and we had little training. There are still teachers my age teaching)

Most of the time teachers are open to learning and adapting and there are no major consequences. Occasionally you'll get a teacher or HT who thinks they know best and there are consequences.

No, having worked in SS, and worked with multi agency professionals, I think there's probably a lot more to this story.😚

If that’s really the case then why have we been subjected to this appalling ill treatment…?
It also depends on what area your in…..?

You don't even know shootingstar1 but you have often wondered about her sleep patterns? Seriously?

Typical SS trying to even control our conversations and shut us down. We’re not even allowed to speak our truth.
It’s coercive control, mental abuse.
They will be threatening us next with Solicitors.

All righty...

My 16 year old son had an abscess from an in growing hair on his tail bone. He was in excruciating pain. We spent 24 hours in hospital through the night.
My son was taken up to the surgical unit at 9 am. I didn’t see him again until 4pm.
Nurse explained about wound care and lot’s of different antibiotics.
We return home about 5pm, hungry and suffering with sleep deprivation.
We had been home about 10 minutes and there was a knock at the door. It was the SW needing an explanation. Just what we needed. Not!
She’s a very young girl with no emotions. She has a real sharp edge about her with this glazed over look. Doesn’t want to engage with any normal conversation with me.
She asked for the discharge letter and about medication and I told her about wound care. The hospital advised me to obtain some body clippers. To keep the hair short on his lower back which will help with the wound care.
SW then said, I need to do a 2 hour parenting assessment…?
So I said , We are all very hungry and tired. That’s a bit inappropriate. She did leave reluctantly.
SW wrote on her report, “mother was cutting her son pubic hair in his groin area “.
” Mother was trying to force her way into the hospital cubicle, to look at her son’s penis”.
I’m not joking you. This actually happened.
We have been framed.
Then they have the brass neck to accuse me of fabrication. They really love the word “fabrication”.
I’ve been called a lot of things in my life, but never a peadophile. That’s really going to take some beating.