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Social services acting unlawfully

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Mumursoold · 28/06/2023 21:39

Hi , Moved here 8 years ago fleeing a stacking violent alcoholic rapist father. Both children are diagnosed with Dyspraxia and hyper sensory. The local authority wouldn’t accept their diagnosis reports. My son became suicidal and my other son was severely bullied. So I took them both out of school. So the head teacher wrote a nasty letter to social services and we were targeted and had our lives turned upside down. They took me to court twice but it didn’t meet the criteria for removal of my children. So they then spent 2 and half years , making our lives an absolute living hell. They told the violent father where we live and gave him one of their solicitors and treated him like a king. Gave him a positive parenting assessment and they gave me a negative parenting assessment. Social services use narcissistic abuse to provoke a reaction out of you. They use silence to make you feel uneasy. I was very aware they were recording me in my home. We were terrified of them. This is abuse. They absolutely hated me and made me suffer for 2 and a half years. They said my children aren’t disabled even thou they both told them they are. They said, it was me putting ideas into their heads. They took me to court for fabrication of illness and I was completely taken apart and made to look like a peadophile and a child murderer. They are corrupt. They actually wanted to take my children away. They won with their own biased judge. Interestingly they took me to court in a different area. 1 and a half journey out of this area. So they have my 13 year old innocent vulnerable child isolated from the people that love him. I haven’t seen him for 6 weeks and they don’t like him seeing his 17 year old brother because he’s a bad influence on him. They have been showing my children photographs and letters and trying to make them watch videos of their father. Both boys witnessed the father hit me in the face in the supermarket. I suffered 9 years of abuse from the father and his brother and sister. My children witnessed horrific violence during contact at the grandparents house.Their is police log to back this up. But the authority choose to not listen and ignore the evidence. My boy’s are being forced against their will. My children are absolutely terrified. Both children are going to have mental health issues for the rest of their lives. This authority only knows how to punish people and they do that very well. There is no care here. Your expected to drag your children to school kicking and screaming. Interestingly they don’t have any screening here for the children. They absolutely hate disabilities. Which is very cruel. I’ve been told that I will have to go back there to see my children. I won’t be able to see my children ever again. I will end up dead. This is beyond cruel. I’m also diagnosed with PTSD. We have been treated with total disregard. This is malicious punishment. I’m totally isolated and on my own. I’m really frightened for my son , he can’t defend himself. They said in court that he is easy. My very tearful and emotional. I don't know what to do or who to talk to for fear of this authority. Has anyone else experienced this before..? I could do with some support.

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CoralBells · 29/06/2023 19:08

Who diagnosed the children with their disabilities? Can you not show the evidence of this so they can't accuse you of fabricating it?

Florissante · 29/06/2023 19:12

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Mumursoold · 29/06/2023 19:15

Well you would have thought so. You would be horrified with how badly we have been treated. Both children rapidly flap their hands. Which is stimming or stereo typing.
my youngest son was fortunate to have a letter from his school which enabled me to get an appointment at the child development centre. He was their for 4 and a half years on the Autistic pathway . Then he was discharged because he didn’t meet the criteria for diagnosis. I must also mention that they don’t have screening here, for some reason..?
My eldest son had to go to a different school. This became a Hugh battle. The school refused to give me a letter, saying we don’t see anything. Even thou his writing was totally illegible and at the age of 10 yrs, he couldn’t say his 2 times tables out loud. He began to comfort eat at the age of 10 yrs, because he was being misunderstood. He said, food makes it all better mum. He left the school went up to secondary. It was the same bad treatment. I made appointments with the Senco and took his exercise books with me to show them how illegible his hand was and that he couldn’t read his own writing. She said, as bad as his writing looks she could actually read his writing. This is what we were up against. They were giving him 1 hours detentions after school because he couldn’t produce enough written work. I continuously asked if he could have the use a laptop to record information. I continuously asked them for a letter.This continued for 3 yrs. He moved up to yr 10 and they then realised he was a slow learner and dropped him down to the remedial class. This slowly impacted on his self esteem and he became suicidal. He was so severely backed into a corner he thought his only option was to brake all of his own fingers. I called CAMH. They came to our home. I told her he wanted to throw himself out of his bedroom window and end his life. She spent literally 6 minutes with him. He was trying to tell her how much he was struggling at school. She left saying absolutely nothing except a letter would be put in the post. We waited 5 months before we received the letter saying there is nothing he hasn’t done his school work and that he wouldn’t be entitled to a neurodevelopment assessment and she wouldn’t have anymore involvement with him. This had gone on for 6 yrs.
During the first Covid lock down I began to telephone private assessors. It was by pure chance i phoned Optimus Dyslexic screening and spoke to a lady called Hilary. She was fantastic. I told her what was happening, she said, I see this every day. I think you will find that this is Dyspraxia. There isn’t any facilities here. You will have to take your boy’s to Bristol to Dyspraxia UK. So I spoke with them and an appointment was made. Both boy’s were diagnosed by them. They issued me with a letter immediately to take to school for my eldest son because his was more profound. But the school rejected it. So this is what we have been up against.

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MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 29/06/2023 19:18

LaurieFairyCake · 29/06/2023 18:00

Ah just seen you're not in the UK

Where does OP say that?

Gazelda · 29/06/2023 19:19

OP, if both boys have dyspraxia, diagnosed by Dyspraxia UK, can you access advice from them?

Or the Dyspraxia Foundation has a helpline which is 01462 454986.

Have you spoken to your GP about your difficulties?

Luxell934 · 29/06/2023 19:25

What country did this happen in?

Mumursoold · 29/06/2023 19:40

They both have 70 page long diagnosis reports each. We had to go to Bristol to Dyspraxia UK. I even have good footage of both my boy’s stimming and stereo typing. Rapidly flapping their hands. I was up against all of the LA, Judge and the violent father saying his children aren’t disabled. They all said it was normal behaviour.

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onlymyselftoanswerto1 · 29/06/2023 19:41

I believe you OP, I've seen the destruction and damage SS can do. Have had to advocate a few times for mothers who were being blatantly victimised by them. Please get some support, women's aid will help with this kind of thing. I wish you luck.

GoodChat · 29/06/2023 19:46

Am I right in assuming you're in Ireland?

Mumursoold · 29/06/2023 19:51

The LA summoned Dyspraxia UK to court to give evidence.

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Luxell934 · 29/06/2023 20:05

Mumursoold · 29/06/2023 19:40

They both have 70 page long diagnosis reports each. We had to go to Bristol to Dyspraxia UK. I even have good footage of both my boy’s stimming and stereo typing. Rapidly flapping their hands. I was up against all of the LA, Judge and the violent father saying his children aren’t disabled. They all said it was normal behaviour.

So both children got their reports from Bristol to Dyspraxia UK and where do you live? UK or elsewhere?

Oblomov23 · 29/06/2023 20:08

Where are you? Ireland?

You just need a very good advocate. Someone to attend all meetings with you from now on. I took my step dad who was a retired very senior social worker. The chair apologised to my step dad saying it was one of the worst cases he'd ever seen. You need that. Don't attend another meeting without someone with you.

2bazookas · 29/06/2023 20:24

You sound very unwell.

Mumursoold · 29/06/2023 20:34

I’m a complete nervous wreck. Im frightened to even move for fear of doing something. This is what this invasive Scrutiny Does to you.
SW continuously went through my childrens bedrooms with a fine tooth comb over the last 2 and a half years. What were they looking for…? They would come every week at 5pm and stand over me in silence. Watching me cook our evening meal. Thank the lord I’m a fantastic cook. You feel like you have been violated. There must be something very wrong with their perception..? It was constantly triggering off my traumatic stress.
So many people going through exactly the same… what is this world coming too.
thank you for your message.

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MrsMarzetti · 29/06/2023 20:39

Mumursoold I believe you. I know from experience how awful SS can be. They specialise in targeting easy cases ie single mums that are unsupported but will run for the hills if the case involves a burly bloke or a family with a hard reputation.

PicnicInthecar · 29/06/2023 20:43

This happened to us with the FII allegations, they will gaslight and fabricate evidence or one person will get their opinion recorded and it’s then presented as fact.

Happens to a lot of parents with dc with issues such as autism , adhd, feeding or digestive issues, allergies, ME, EDS, MCAS, PoTs …..also ‘red flags’ are parents who seek second opinions or complain

there’s a fb group called ‘fiightback’ it may be worth joining.

You are not alone

PicnicInthecar · 29/06/2023 20:44

Also the ISW Cathie long recently did a paper for BASW on FII/ perplexing presentations that’s worth a look at

Mumursoold · 29/06/2023 21:15

I’m so sorry you have had to endure that. Thank god you have your step dad. It will destroy you.
They are definitely playing mind games. Contact is only through email from them. I’ve chosen to go no contact. Never reply to their messages. Their constantly provoking a reaction.
Which is a normal human response when someone is saying nasty things to you.
Im really glad to hear you managed to sort everything out. Your right, never meet them alone. This is just ridiculous. I can’t get my head around this. These are professional people. Why do we have to live in fear of these people. No one should be living in fear of anyone.
Thank you for your message. Take care

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GoodChat · 29/06/2023 21:18

You've chosen to blank the services that have your children in their care? That's not going to prove you're a fit mother.

OwlRightThen · 29/06/2023 21:23

Some things aren't believable, until they happen to you.

You need a shit hot solicitor op.

PicnicInthecar · 29/06/2023 22:23

OwlRightThen · 29/06/2023 21:23

Some things aren't believable, until they happen to you.

You need a shit hot solicitor op.

Michael Charles at Sinclairs Law I think he only does education but he’s made some YouTube videos about FII and the issues parents can face in relation to having SEN/disabled children that are really eye opening

Somanycats · 29/06/2023 22:52

Oh God. And just think of the outcry when children are not removed from their parents. And when we cant recruit social workers who unsurprisingly don't want to have to deal with the amount of misinformation and scaremongering on this thread alone. No, Social services do not appoint judges, not do they dish out solicitors.
This sort of confusion or willful misinformation op encourages people to think you are generally confused or deliberately giving people wrong information.
What exactly do you think social services did wrong? Just because you haven't got the outcome you wanted doesn't mean anyone has done anything wrong. How are you calmly and in the best interest of your children going to take this forward now, remembering none of this is about what is best for you and it is entirely about what is best for your children.
Obviously if you stop replying to emails you will have lost your case. Obviously they are choosing to only communicate through email so they have a record of what they say and what you say to protect themselves from allegations you might make, as you have been doing in this thread.

Mumursoold · 29/06/2023 22:59

Yes. The EWO came . Asked both boy’s if they want to be home schooled. To which they both replied yes. I showed her a sample of my son’s hand writing . She snatched the book .asked if she could have some. She ripped some pages out. I said , My son is suicidal and she said, the more you react to what he is saying, the worse you are making it and she left. I just said, thank you very much . Good bye.

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WandaWonder · 29/06/2023 23:06

Cocoalover · 28/06/2023 22:36

I don't agree with others that this seems far-fetched. There's a Facebook group exposing the corruption of social services. Just because you've not been in the op situation doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Some of them are so fucking corrupt that it's sickening. They take children away from loving parents and leave the ones that are being abused, and then they end up being killed 😡

It's on Facebook so it must be true

Mumursoold · 29/06/2023 23:13

I’m very sorry you feel like that. I am allowed to speak my truth without prejudice. So if you can’t handle the truth. I would suggest you don’t get involved. Go have another glass of wine . Love

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