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Thread 27 - Sunak : the Ship is Sinking, Hold Your Nerve!

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DuncinToffee · 26/06/2023 14:10

In the voice of Cpl Jones.

"Don't panic Capt Sunak"

"Hold your nerve"

"They don't like it up em".

Previous https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4823678-thread-25-sunak-peerages-privileges-the-covid-inquiry?page=1

We have a choice between extremely bad alternative outcomes

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DuncinToffee · 28/06/2023 18:32

Wrong tweet copied, I meant to add this one.

Another defeat in the Lords for the Govt over the Illegal Migration Bill

219 to 177 votes.

Peers disagree that the proposed law should be applied retrospectively.

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DuncinToffee · 28/06/2023 18:39

https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1674107918713487390?s=20

Exc: A "special report" will be published tomorrow by the privileges committee on the issues surrounding their inquiry into Boris Johnson.

It's expected to name several of his allies (serving MPs and a peer) who branded the committee a "witch-hunt"/ "kangaroo court".

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Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 18:47

Wow wasn't expecting that report to come out so quickly. It will be interesting.

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 18:48

DuncinToffee · 28/06/2023 18:32

Wrong tweet copied, I meant to add this one.

Another defeat in the Lords for the Govt over the Illegal Migration Bill

219 to 177 votes.

Peers disagree that the proposed law should be applied retrospectively.

I hadn't known they were planning on applying it retrospectively! How insane.

jgw1 · 28/06/2023 18:56

DuncinToffee · 28/06/2023 18:39

https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1674107918713487390?s=20

Exc: A "special report" will be published tomorrow by the privileges committee on the issues surrounding their inquiry into Boris Johnson.

It's expected to name several of his allies (serving MPs and a peer) who branded the committee a "witch-hunt"/ "kangaroo court".

The key question is how do they suspend Mad Nad, when she hasn't been i parliament for a year and has resigned with immediate effect sometime next year.

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 21:00

James Mitchinson is Editor of the Yorkshire Post.

"Legal threat received #Teesside

Without publishing a word, just asking questions. I hope Teessiders are watching."

twitter.com/jaymitchinson/status/1674143293205037057?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Nothing indicates a clean conscience quite like threatening journalists.

mibbelucieachwell · 29/06/2023 08:30

@Notonthestairs If it's any consolation I'm raging. This is the umpteenth time an essential public infrastructure/essential necessity has been sold off, been run purely for the benefit of its shareholders till it's on its knees then bailed out at taxpayers' expense. There's talk on the R4 news programme this morning of it being temporarily state owned.

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DuncinToffee · 29/06/2023 08:42

What a horrible guy

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1674305719032479744?s=20

#KayBurley: Will we ever see anyone sent to Rwanda?

Neil O'Brien: "Labour & the LibDems sabotaged the illegal migration bill... we want to take away the thicket of all these rights & human rights laws that have been used to stop people being deported.. totally right legislation"

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DuncinToffee · 29/06/2023 09:03

There's talk on the R4 news programme this morning of it being temporarily state owned.

temporarily? So taxpayer bails them out only to be shat over all over again

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Cornettoninja · 29/06/2023 09:05

‘These’ human rights?!?

It doesn’t take much effort to understand why these laws were written and put in place. It’s atrocious to dismiss them so easily.

There’s no barrier to challenging them but being disagreed with is not ‘sabotage’. Oversensitive bellend.

Cornettoninja · 29/06/2023 09:08

DuncinToffee · 29/06/2023 09:03

There's talk on the R4 news programme this morning of it being temporarily state owned.

temporarily? So taxpayer bails them out only to be shat over all over again

Yup.

I’ve seen a couple of comments off the back of Thames water questioning energy company ‘record profits’. It’s all part of the same bad smell.

The only thing standing in the way of privatisation being a success is the greed of those who shirk responsibility and refuse to acknowledge that growth is not infinite. Stability isn’t even a consideration for the locusts stripping society.

Notonthestairs · 29/06/2023 09:31

BREAKING: Privileges Committee concludes that Conservative MPs and peers deliberately tried to undermine its inquiry into Boris Johnson and intimidate its members.

They single out Nadine Dorries, Michael Fabricant, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Priti Patel, Mark Jenkinson and more.

Committee says:

“Their aim was to (1) influence the outcome of the inquiry, (2) impede the work of the Committee by inducing members to resign, (3) discredit the Committee’s conclusions if those conclusions were not what they wanted, (4) discredit the Committee as a whole.”

Committee adds:

“This unprecedented and co-ordinated pressure did not affect the conduct or outcome of our inquiry. However, it had significant personal impact on individual Members and raised significant security concerns.”

Reminder that the committee is made up of a majority of Conservative MPs. This is yet more Tory on Tory civil war, though the committee presents that the principle at stake here is of course much broader and bigger than that.

twitter.com/paulbranditv/status/1674333186384359424?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Notonthestairs · 29/06/2023 09:43

This analysis from 2020 explains how the privatised water companies borrowed to pay excessive dividends bit.ly/3p8Uo7x and as the uptodate images show Australian bank Macquarie McQuarrie asset stripped Thames Water paying dividends rather than investing in infrastructure

twitter.com/paullewismoney/status/1674115485888135173?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

From 2020 -

English water companies have handed more than £2bn a year on average to shareholders since they were privatised three decades ago, according to analysis for the Guardian.
The payouts in dividends to shareholders of parent companies between 1991 and 2019 amount to £57bn – nearly half the sum they spent on maintaining and improving the country’s pipes and treatment plants in that period.
www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/01/england-privatised-water-firms-dividends-shareholders

Time and again we have been taken for fools.

I don't want the answer is but I don't want the taxpayer to bail out Thames water only for shareholders to benefit.

Notonthestairs · 29/06/2023 09:45

My post looks odd - no idea why.

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DuncinToffee · 29/06/2023 10:12

https://twitter.com/ZoeJardiniere/status/1674344187599241216?s=20

THE COURT OF APPEAL FINDS RWANDA IS NOT A SAFE COUNTRY FOR REFUGEES TO BE REMOVED FROM THE UK

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DuncinToffee · 29/06/2023 10:14

David Allen Green

So that is why Home Secretary, having had early sight of judgment, is making a statement to House of Commons

Note:

1. a majority, not unanimous

2. all other grounds of appeal fail

3. now likely to go to Supreme Court

So opponents of Rwanda policy can't totally celebrate yet

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Notonthestairs · 29/06/2023 10:33

Call me cynical but in a roundabout fashion it looks like a win for the Tories.
They'll take it to the Supreme Court and then ECHR - God knows we have money to burn when it comes to forking out for lawyers.

Judges block legislation - evil judges.

ECHR block legislation - evil legislation.

Crap expensive unworkable policy which would only have applied to a tiny proportion of asylum seekers - left an untested right wing wet dream.

They'll campaign on pulling out of the ECHR - most people dont understand it. The gullible will trail along repeating nonsense unchecked on BBC etc.

IClaudine · 29/06/2023 10:35

Well I am celebrating.

No one is ever going to be sent to Rwanda. What a massive waste of money it has all been.

Notonthestairs · 29/06/2023 10:35

Sorry that should read evil ECHR not legislation!

Everything is annoying me this morning.
We are led by idiots.

Blossomtoes · 29/06/2023 10:35

Notonthestairs · 29/06/2023 09:31

BREAKING: Privileges Committee concludes that Conservative MPs and peers deliberately tried to undermine its inquiry into Boris Johnson and intimidate its members.

They single out Nadine Dorries, Michael Fabricant, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Priti Patel, Mark Jenkinson and more.

Committee says:

“Their aim was to (1) influence the outcome of the inquiry, (2) impede the work of the Committee by inducing members to resign, (3) discredit the Committee’s conclusions if those conclusions were not what they wanted, (4) discredit the Committee as a whole.”

Committee adds:

“This unprecedented and co-ordinated pressure did not affect the conduct or outcome of our inquiry. However, it had significant personal impact on individual Members and raised significant security concerns.”

Reminder that the committee is made up of a majority of Conservative MPs. This is yet more Tory on Tory civil war, though the committee presents that the principle at stake here is of course much broader and bigger than that.

twitter.com/paulbranditv/status/1674333186384359424?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

My favourite tweet today:

There is a lingering stench of corruption around Boris Johnson, his cronies and the decaying corpse of this Conservative Government which only an enema of a general election will flush out.

IClaudine · 29/06/2023 10:37

Notonthestairs · 29/06/2023 10:33

Call me cynical but in a roundabout fashion it looks like a win for the Tories.
They'll take it to the Supreme Court and then ECHR - God knows we have money to burn when it comes to forking out for lawyers.

Judges block legislation - evil judges.

ECHR block legislation - evil legislation.

Crap expensive unworkable policy which would only have applied to a tiny proportion of asylum seekers - left an untested right wing wet dream.

They'll campaign on pulling out of the ECHR - most people dont understand it. The gullible will trail along repeating nonsense unchecked on BBC etc.

Yes I can see them playing it like that, but by the time they have gone through all those processes, hopefully we will be in GE territory and so no danger of pulling out of ECHR.

IClaudine · 29/06/2023 10:39

Everyday seems to bring another blow to the Tories. Poor loves.

Notonthestairs · 29/06/2023 10:45

I am just angry at how much time, energy and money is being wasted as they drag out what we know is the end game. Party before country every time.

Notonthestairs · 29/06/2023 11:48

Mogg says he's going to church today and then watching the cricket.
Is Parliament closed?

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