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Thread 27 - Sunak : the Ship is Sinking, Hold Your Nerve!

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DuncinToffee · 26/06/2023 14:10

In the voice of Cpl Jones.

"Don't panic Capt Sunak"

"Hold your nerve"

"They don't like it up em".

Previous https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4823678-thread-25-sunak-peerages-privileges-the-covid-inquiry?page=1

We have a choice between extremely bad alternative outcomes

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 27/06/2023 20:26

The Rwanda plan is just going to force people into even more danger. They'll try to evade the coast guards by crossing at night or in rough weather and they'll avoid calling for help.

DuncinToffee · 27/06/2023 20:36

'Transperency'

Rishi Sunak’s government placed a record number of blocks on freedom of information requests in its first three months leading to accusations of a “culture of concealment”

Rishi Sunak routinely uses pens with erasable ink to make hand-written notes on official documents and in government meetings

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dontcallmelen · 27/06/2023 20:38

Thanks Duncin for new thread as ever thanks to all contributors.

DuncinToffee · 27/06/2023 20:39

LittleBowSheep · 27/06/2023 20:23

Another Tory MP has apologised for being found out for attending an event in Parliament whilst covid restrictions were in place.

Virginia Crosbie, MP for Ynys Mon (Anglesey), was co-host for her birthday drinks in December 2020 but insists she didn't send out any invitations nor did she drink.

Well that makes it okay then, obviously.

That was Sunak's excuse, he only had an orange juice iirc

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DuncinToffee · 27/06/2023 20:46

Cornettoninja · 27/06/2023 14:00

Listening to news of Hancock apologising directly to the families attending the Covid committee and I’m honestly not sure what to make of him.

On one hand, it’s a good thing that he has apologised (I think sincerely) but on the other he absolutely deserved the reception he got from those families.

Response from Bereaved Families on today

https://twitter.com/CovidJusticeUK/status/1673711448353132544?s=20

In response to Matt Hancock's appearance at the @covidinquiryuk Lindsay Jackson has made the following statement on behalf of Covid 19 Bereaved Families for Justice:
'Matt Hancock’s appearance today confirmed what we already knew; that he and the Government entirely failed
(1/6)

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Notonthestairs · 27/06/2023 20:58

Lockdown restrictions didn't mention alcohol - it was about restricting contacting. If they bloody voted on the restrictions I'd have expected them to read the legislation 🙄

Cornettoninja · 27/06/2023 21:26

Rishi Sunak routinely uses pens with erasable ink to make hand-written notes on official documents and in government meetings

fuck off! He thinks he’s in scooby doo GrinGrin We could be getting some great leaks where people rub crayons over the paper to pick up indents.

Matt Hancock’s appearance today confirmed what we already knew; that he and the Government entirely failed

fair.

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/06/2023 08:38

Seems the thing we are going to be holding our nerve on today is school buildings falling down on teachers and kids.

I’m guessing the answer to any questions will involve something about stopping boats or nhs waiting lists.

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Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 10:23

www.nao.org.uk/reports/condition-of-school-buildings/

Makes for worrying reading.

700,000 learning in school buildings that need major rebuilding or refurbishment.
Acknowledges significant safety concerns and have put those buildings in the safety register.

But "DfE currently lacks comprehensive information on the extent and severity of these safety issues, which would allow it to develop a longer-term plan to address them."

So we don't know know what we don't know.

There is also a "significant difference" between the money provided and the work required. "Funding is also often used for urgent repairs rather than planned maintenance which, as DfE itself acknowledges, risks not offering good long-term value for money."

Essentially estates are firefighting existing problems.

We know this is replicated in NHS buildings/infrastructure.

Country held together by a wing and a prayer.

Meanwhile Johnson was faffing around dredging money from donors to pay for wallpaper and drinks trolleys.

I bet Chequers isn't bloody crumbling around them.

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 11:22

water companies had no debt when they were privatised

  • since then they gave borrowed £53bn
  • much of this has been used to help pay £72bn in dividends
  • interest rates have now spiked
  • what could possible go wrong?
  • S&P, the rating agency, has negative outlooks for two-thirds of the UK water companies it rates — indicating the possibility of downgrades
  • over half of the sector’s debt on average is inflation-linked, putting pressure on companies in the current environment

twitter.com/pickardje/status/1673991202394238978?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

We should be raging.

L1ttledrummergirl · 28/06/2023 14:44

Isn't this where the shareholders have to reinvest in their asset and repay the money even if they need a personal loan to cover their losses?

DuncinToffee · 28/06/2023 15:11

There's something symbolically significant to No.10 changing its banner from Sunak's five pledges to just union flag bunting.

twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1674051544965062656?s=20

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DuncinToffee · 28/06/2023 15:11

And this

Thread 27 - Sunak : the Ship is Sinking, Hold Your Nerve!
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Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 15:56

Talk about throwing in the towel.

JUST CALL AN ELECTION ALREADY.

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/06/2023 15:59

There seems to be a ‘labour say one thing and do another’ sort of theme going on on various Twitter accounts too. Personally I might keep away from suggesting labour aren’t truthful.

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 16:46

Korski has withdrawn from London mayoral race.

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/06/2023 17:14

Assume even the Tories think there’s a limit to the amount of scandal you can have and get away with it.

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 17:15

🚨 | BREAKING: The government has been DEFEATED by the House of Lords on the Illegal Migration Bill as peers vote in favour of forcing Rishi Sunak to comply with international law and ECHR

This amendment is just ONE of many potential defeats the government will face this evening

twitter.com/politlcsuk/status/1674086418887352323?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/06/2023 17:16

🥳

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 17:17

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/06/2023 17:14

Assume even the Tories think there’s a limit to the amount of scandal you can have and get away with it.

I thought the Tories see scandal as a requirement rather than a barrier. At least one that offers their MPs a better opportunity to land a GBeebies contract.

pointythings · 28/06/2023 17:18

Excellent news. I'm still shocked every day that we're relying on the HoL of all things to keep this batshit pisstake masquerading as a government in check.

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 17:19

I'm pleased by the defeat - if only Labour would get off the pot.
Yes I know they are treading carefully not to enrage certain voters but fucks sakes.

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 17:35

DuncinToffee · 28/06/2023 15:11

And this

Prescient.

DuncinToffee · 28/06/2023 18:28

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 17:15

🚨 | BREAKING: The government has been DEFEATED by the House of Lords on the Illegal Migration Bill as peers vote in favour of forcing Rishi Sunak to comply with international law and ECHR

This amendment is just ONE of many potential defeats the government will face this evening

twitter.com/politlcsuk/status/1674086418887352323?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

https://twitter.com/premnsikka/status/1674089084204072961?s=20

Lords defeat govt on the Illegal Migration Bill, 222 to 179 votes

Require govt to honour its international treaties - ECHR, Refugee Conventions, Rights of the Child, Human Trafficking, Reduction of Statelessness.

Bigger defeat than was expected.

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