Page 3 | Missing Titan Sub! Thread 3

Badabingbadaboomm · 2023-06-21T18:00:12+00:00

OP of the last thread has said she has to pop out so making this one as we’re almost full on the 2nd thread. I cannot stop thinking about these poor men.

FoodCentre · 21/06/2023 19:47

Isthisexpected · 21/06/2023 19:45

I'm definitely encouraged by the co-ordinated banging sounds. All is not lost; these men have over 12 hours of oxygen left.

It seems like enough time but it won't be. They haven't even be found - and we still have to factor in the time it takes to raise the sub to surface level, get a human to open it and rescue them. That can't be done overnight.

Sadly, probably won't happen.

SunnyEgg · 21/06/2023 19:47

MayThe4th · 21/06/2023 19:39

All these threads and discussion elsewhere just seems a bit ghoulish at this point. It’s understandable that people are interested, but this seems like the internet equivalent of people waiting outside mines and such for the bodies to be brought out.

Because let’s be honest, no-one actually thinks that there is the slightest chance these men are going to be found alive do they? People hope they are, but realistically we all know that’s unlikely, so in truth we’re just waiting for the reports that the sub has been found along with the victims, or that the search has now been called off.

FWIW I’m not criticising the threads as I think that there has been some really interesting information on them. But when you take a step back it just seems like we’re being witness to a horrible tragedy and having an interesting discussion while we wait for it to unfold.

Well I did think there was a slightest chance. I don’t know now

Really sad if that’s the case

Somanycats · 21/06/2023 19:47

Isthisexpected · 21/06/2023 19:45

I'm definitely encouraged by the co-ordinated banging sounds. All is not lost; these men have over 12 hours of oxygen left.

By what means do you think they could be got out?

Theskyoutsideisblue · 21/06/2023 19:47

Really hope for good news. But in terms of future expeditions it’s a grave. Show some respect and leave it alone.
just because you think you can doesn’t mean you should

georgarina · 21/06/2023 19:47

MayThe4th · 21/06/2023 19:39

All these threads and discussion elsewhere just seems a bit ghoulish at this point. It’s understandable that people are interested, but this seems like the internet equivalent of people waiting outside mines and such for the bodies to be brought out.

Because let’s be honest, no-one actually thinks that there is the slightest chance these men are going to be found alive do they? People hope they are, but realistically we all know that’s unlikely, so in truth we’re just waiting for the reports that the sub has been found along with the victims, or that the search has now been called off.

FWIW I’m not criticising the threads as I think that there has been some really interesting information on them. But when you take a step back it just seems like we’re being witness to a horrible tragedy and having an interesting discussion while we wait for it to unfold.

It's not ghoulish to want to discuss current events, especially such a harrowing, emotive one. It's natural.

Emotionalsupportviper · 21/06/2023 19:47

YoSof · 21/06/2023 19:45

I do take your point, and I can only speak personally.

Yes my logical brain knows there is no hope of them being found alive, or even at all. But another part of me is still hoping.

I don’t know these people, but I feel unsettled and upset at what they may be going through right now if they are still alive and conscious. I am a mum, like many of us, and the thought of a mum somewhere waiting for news of her son, and her husband, is upsetting to me. I also live alone, so have nobody to chat to about this in “real life” and think out loud with, as is human nature I suppose. People the whole world over are watching, and hoping, and this is a place to discuss the news with some of them.

There has been a lot of information on here, some really informative and easier to access than scrolling news channels.

I don’t know if that makes it right or not, just a poor explanation of why I’ve been refreshing the threads today and posting when I can.

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Very moving post. I think you speak for almost all of us.

YoSof · 21/06/2023 19:50

Emotionalsupportviper · 21/06/2023 19:47

Very moving post. I think you speak for almost all of us.

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Thank you, and I love your username.

Someone posted on the other thread that while they may be billionaires and live in a completely different world, one most of us would probably envy at any other time, right now none of that matters. They are humans, with likes and dislikes, who are loved and have families at home waiting for them.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 21/06/2023 19:50

I think it was pretty telling when the guy answering questions referred to it as a "recovery" rather than a rescue.

Even with some time left for oxygen they are still fucked. They've not been found and they need probably 3 hours to bring them back up and that's only once they are found and if they have the means to.

They don't. This is ending in 5 deaths unfortunately and it's probably worse now we know they are still alive, or at least on of them is

ScoobyBooby · 21/06/2023 19:53

This gives me so much anxiety the thought of those men trapped in the sub at the bottom of the ocean with oxygen running out .

I hope they are able to locate the sun and bring it up safely very soon those poor men it’s unbearable x

ScoobyBooby · 21/06/2023 19:53

Sorry locate the sub*

YoSof · 21/06/2023 19:54

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 21/06/2023 19:50

I think it was pretty telling when the guy answering questions referred to it as a "recovery" rather than a rescue.

Even with some time left for oxygen they are still fucked. They've not been found and they need probably 3 hours to bring them back up and that's only once they are found and if they have the means to.

They don't. This is ending in 5 deaths unfortunately and it's probably worse now we know they are still alive, or at least on of them is

I agree, knowing that there was noises and possibly life on board as recently as this morning is particularly upsetting.

I was criticised in another thread by posting that I hoped, if they couldn’t be rescued, that something catastrophic had happened and they had died instantly. If the noises were them trying to make contact, it must be unbearable for their loved ones to know that it wasn’t instant and they may have been aware of what is happening.

cushioncovers · 21/06/2023 19:54

I'd only just began to recover from watching the video of the poor man being eaten by a shark in Egypt that kept me awake for several nights and now I'm doing the same with this.

Scrambledegghead · 21/06/2023 19:57

Surely if one or two of them are still alive (presuming the banging is from them), the oxygen will last a good amount longer than originally thought for 5 people, so there’s still a chance at least one person will be rescued?

SheilaFentiman · 21/06/2023 19:58

Scrambledegghead · 21/06/2023 19:57

Surely if one or two of them are still alive (presuming the banging is from them), the oxygen will last a good amount longer than originally thought for 5 people, so there’s still a chance at least one person will be rescued?

I don’t think it’s conclusive that the noise was from the submersible

Emotionalsupportviper · 21/06/2023 19:59

@Hungrycaterpillarsmummy - this must sound silly, but of all of the posts I've read - some of them very moving, yours, with its acceptance that this is no longer a submersible, but now a coffin (I know you didn't use those words), has brought the tragedy home more than any other (perhaps it's cumulative).

It is so incredibly sad.

I suggested on the first thread that the Titanic itself should be sanctified as a graveyard and treated with respect. I feel it even more so now.

DepartureLounge · 21/06/2023 19:59

Just hoping to follow along. Thanks for the thread.

When I heard the news story yesterday, I assumed it was hopeless, and then the banging noises and everything we've since learned about the submarine distress protocol, and I really hoped this could end well. Still hoping, but kind of watching through my hands at this point.

I have a really vivid memory of watching the Chilean miners being rescued and finding it very emotional even though I'm not really an emotional person.

I'm also very claustrophobic so the Chilean rescue created a real sense of dilemma for me as I'm not sure I could have got in that capsule, even to be saved. You would never have got me in this submersible. The whole thing is mindblowing to me tbh.

NutellaEllaElla · 21/06/2023 20:00

Well there is still a chance that they are on the surface of the water. If they were discovered now, they could be saved. I don't know how high that chance is.

I love the holier than thou puritans who repeatedly come onto a thread they find so repugnant to let everyone know how morally superior they are than the rest of us. I hope you never watch the news, read most books, watch almost any TV, visit any culturally relevant places etc etc. Just so you're consistent. Sounds fun.

Newname211 · 21/06/2023 20:01

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 21/06/2023 19:50

I think it was pretty telling when the guy answering questions referred to it as a "recovery" rather than a rescue.

Even with some time left for oxygen they are still fucked. They've not been found and they need probably 3 hours to bring them back up and that's only once they are found and if they have the means to.

They don't. This is ending in 5 deaths unfortunately and it's probably worse now we know they are still alive, or at least on of them is

But surely 12 hours worth of oxygen for 5 people would be 48 hours worth of oxygen for 1 person?

MayThe4th · 21/06/2023 20:01

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 21/06/2023 19:50

I think it was pretty telling when the guy answering questions referred to it as a "recovery" rather than a rescue.

Even with some time left for oxygen they are still fucked. They've not been found and they need probably 3 hours to bring them back up and that's only once they are found and if they have the means to.

They don't. This is ending in 5 deaths unfortunately and it's probably worse now we know they are still alive, or at least on of them is

We don’t know that any of them are alive. All the navy experts are saying that it’s highly unlikely.

The coastguard have confirmed that they don’t know what the origin of the underwater sounds is, and that these have been sent off to scientists for analysis. It’s only the media who are reporting coordinated banging which has then been picked up by individuals and been interpreted as thinking that one of them is definitely alive.

It’s possible that the sounds haven’t even come from the sub. But they have to cover all bases.

TokyoStories · 21/06/2023 20:01

There's headlines about 'new noises' now but I can't get the stream to work.

ThreeRingCircus · 21/06/2023 20:02

Scrambledegghead · 21/06/2023 19:57

Surely if one or two of them are still alive (presuming the banging is from them), the oxygen will last a good amount longer than originally thought for 5 people, so there’s still a chance at least one person will be rescued?

There is a slim chance, yes. Understandably people won't give up hope but it's possible that dehydration would kill them before the oxygen runs out. It's absolutely horrendous.

Realistically I cant see a good outcome here but still clinging onto some hope.

Emotionalsupportviper · 21/06/2023 20:02

YoSof · 21/06/2023 19:54

I agree, knowing that there was noises and possibly life on board as recently as this morning is particularly upsetting.

I was criticised in another thread by posting that I hoped, if they couldn’t be rescued, that something catastrophic had happened and they had died instantly. If the noises were them trying to make contact, it must be unbearable for their loved ones to know that it wasn’t instant and they may have been aware of what is happening.

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Totally agree with you.

Rescue has been a false hope from the start, I think (but still we cling to it, which is only natural).

If this was my husband, my child, I'd much rather they had had a quick, comparatively easy death.

ArcticBells · 21/06/2023 20:02

@MayThe4th I'm glued to it as I'm desperate for good news of those poor people not because I'm ghoulish

Wiltson · 21/06/2023 20:02

CinderRosie · 21/06/2023 19:24

hoping and praying that by the end of this thread we have had some good news 😔 the fact they heard more banging noises today was encouraging but there’s so little time left it feels hopeless.

I agree, sadly. It would be one thing if they’d found the craft and it was just a case of working out how to bring her back up. But they don’t even know where the craft is.

It’s an utter disgrace that the US has refused offers of support.

Simplestead · 21/06/2023 20:03

I think the point about them being billionaires is that it's because of money that they are in the situation they are in. Same with rich folk dying on Everest. Just because you have enough money to do or buy anything, doesn't mean you should.