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Missing Titan Sub! Thread 3

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Badabingbadaboomm · 21/06/2023 19:00

OP of the last thread has said she has to pop out so making this one as we’re almost full on the 2nd thread.

I cannot stop thinking about these poor men.

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Simplestead · 21/06/2023 20:27

Has the submersible been used before?

MayThe4th · 21/06/2023 20:28

Given this company’s slapdash interpretation to safety it’s entirely possible there was nowhere near 96 hours of oxygen on board.

pavillion1 · 21/06/2023 20:28

place marking

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 21/06/2023 20:29

When they said a plane had seen a small grey object earlier I really hoped that was it, but that all seems to have gone quiet.

Emotionalsupportviper · 21/06/2023 20:29

MayThe4th · 21/06/2023 20:28

Given this company’s slapdash interpretation to safety it’s entirely possible there was nowhere near 96 hours of oxygen on board.

That hadn't;t occurred to me - but you are right!

They've ignored every other basic safety rule, and lied t the passengers - why not this one?

darkmodeon · 21/06/2023 20:30

EnthENd · 21/06/2023 19:32

Who would "they" be? It's in international waters. Sure, an individual country could pass a law restricting operation of submersibles at the Titanic wreck site, but people in other countries can ignore such a law.

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Ah didn't know that

Willmafrockfit · 21/06/2023 20:30

watching Sean Leet and Chief Joe
so many questions being aimed at them

BreadInCaptivity · 21/06/2023 20:31

Simplestead · 21/06/2023 20:27

Has the submersible been used before?

Yes.

Multiple times.

Has lost comms on missions before.

Lots of questions about structural integrity of the carbon fibre hull after so many dives.

LemonTreeSkies · 21/06/2023 20:31

Simplestead · 21/06/2023 20:27

Has the submersible been used before?

Yes, and with issues most times

Ellie450 · 21/06/2023 20:31

HundredMilesAnHour · 21/06/2023 20:20

That's not what the press are reporting. The press claim the Magellan equipment is actually superior to the US equipment. Magellan's equipment can allegedly operate down to 5,000m whereas the US equipment only to 3,000m. Magellan digitally mapped the entire Titanic area last summer down to the inch.

If it's true that the US refused their help, it seems rather foolish. Surely all hands on deck (pardon the pun) is better given the circumstances.

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The press are reporting the claims made to them by Magellan’s crew, who presumably are not privy to US military capabilities.

The US already has a ship on site that winched a jet from 12,400 feet/3780m last year, with a crew on board that set a record by winching a helicopter up from 19,075 feet/5800m in 2021.

SwedishEdith · 21/06/2023 20:32

SwedishEdith · 21/06/2023 20:27

I saw a picture last night of the layout inside. Only one person can sit with their legs out stretched, everyone else has to crouch. Plus the bottom of the ocean being pitch black. The sheer discomfort must be agony. Someone previously mentioned writing notes for your loved ones - they may not have any light to do that. The conditions are horrific. I'd like to hope they've all just fallen asleep because the sheer terror of being the last one alive in this conditions is unimaginable. I remember a survivor of the Tallinn disaster saying he was the last one to stay alive in the life raft. That's always stayed with me, the true loneliness/aloneness. Awful.

The Estonia, not the Tallinn.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 21/06/2023 20:33

The Magellan is in Guernsey. It would need a big airplane to transport it. (c-17) The Guernsey run way is not considered to be up to the job. Magellan usually travels by sea. Then it would have to be put on a boat and taken to the Titanic site. There has never been enough time for this to be feasible.

Simplestead · 21/06/2023 20:34

Reminds me of the Challenger and Columbia shuttle disasters. Knowing you are about to die and being totally helpless😩

meditrina · 21/06/2023 20:34

BreadInCaptivity · 21/06/2023 20:31

Yes.

Multiple times.

Has lost comms on missions before.

Lots of questions about structural integrity of the carbon fibre hull after so many dives.

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If that's correct, then the same question is being asked of the rest of the construction, as metal is known to sustain microfractures after being subjected to extreme pressure and release.

PickleIsAPlumbCat · 21/06/2023 20:35

BreadInCaptivity · 21/06/2023 20:26

This isn't a tragedy.

It's statistically a logistical outcome of multiple dangerous expeditions - any one of which had a high probability of failure.

That doesn't mean it's not very sad for the families involved.

I'd like to see a good outcome but that's very, very, very unlikely (times twenty "very").

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I would think to the mother of the 19 yr lad it is very much a tragedy!!

hindere · 21/06/2023 20:35

Has the French robot, Victor, arrived yet? That sounded promising at being able to reach the probable depths and with the ability to cut cables if they're stuck that way. It was on course to arrive later today.

RoseAndRose · 21/06/2023 20:37

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 21/06/2023 20:33

The Magellan is in Guernsey. It would need a big airplane to transport it. (c-17) The Guernsey run way is not considered to be up to the job. Magellan usually travels by sea. Then it would have to be put on a boat and taken to the Titanic site. There has never been enough time for this to be feasible.

Surely put it on a boat and take it somewhere from where it can be put on a plane?

HundredMilesAnHour · 21/06/2023 20:37

Ellie450 · 21/06/2023 20:31

The press are reporting the claims made to them by Magellan’s crew, who presumably are not privy to US military capabilities.

The US already has a ship on site that winched a jet from 12,400 feet/3780m last year, with a crew on board that set a record by winching a helicopter up from 19,075 feet/5800m in 2021.

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Well that's obviously wrong as Magellan isn't a crew, they're a company. A company with a a winch and detailed knowledge and expertise of the area. Who have offered their help and been standing by ready to fly out for the last 24 hours. They could have been there yesterday! The flight to St John's is 5 hours.

Why would you not accept the offer? Even if they're just back up. If this awful incident teaches us anything it should be that you always need a back up plan or 10.

NutellaEllaElla · 21/06/2023 20:38

BreadInCaptivity · 21/06/2023 20:26

This isn't a tragedy.

It's statistically a logistical outcome of multiple dangerous expeditions - any one of which had a high probability of failure.

That doesn't mean it's not very sad for the families involved.

I'd like to see a good outcome but that's very, very, very unlikely (times twenty "very").

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I do wonder what your motivations could be for saying that 5 people dying before their time in an awful way, part of a neglectful accident, isn't a tragedy. Why?

Ellie450 · 21/06/2023 20:42

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 21/06/2023 20:33

The Magellan is in Guernsey. It would need a big airplane to transport it. (c-17) The Guernsey run way is not considered to be up to the job. Magellan usually travels by sea. Then it would have to be put on a boat and taken to the Titanic site. There has never been enough time for this to be feasible.

Exactly. They already have what they need for recovery on site, they just have to find it.

TheTERFnextDoor · 21/06/2023 20:43

I imagine that these ships, boats, and subs cost millions to run, meaning that many companies won't go until they know who's paying?

HundredMilesAnHour · 21/06/2023 20:44

RoseAndRose · 21/06/2023 20:37

Surely put it on a boat and take it somewhere from where it can be put on a plane?

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The UK military had already agreed that they would transport it on a military transporter aircraft taking off from Jersey on Mon afternoon and had permission from the Ministry of Defence and agreement from Port of Jersey. But it was cancelled when the US refused to give permission to enter their airspace.

meditrina · 21/06/2023 20:44

HundredMilesAnHour · 21/06/2023 20:37

Well that's obviously wrong as Magellan isn't a crew, they're a company. A company with a a winch and detailed knowledge and expertise of the area. Who have offered their help and been standing by ready to fly out for the last 24 hours. They could have been there yesterday! The flight to St John's is 5 hours.

Why would you not accept the offer? Even if they're just back up. If this awful incident teaches us anything it should be that you always need a back up plan or 10.

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I hope the US asset can do all that.

The reason to have Magellan's team and kit available is that they are the ones who surveyed the Titanic site and produced the footage, and have direct, recent experience of working at that site

HundredMilesAnHour · 21/06/2023 20:45

Ellie450 · 21/06/2023 20:42

Exactly. They already have what they need for recovery on site, they just have to find it.

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Sure. Because the equipment never fails does it.

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