Missing Titanic Submarine- new thread

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I see the first one is full, is there a new one?

I was just watching this from the year after the Titanic wreck was first discovered.

The description of the submarine and technology they were using then starts about 7 minutes in.

Interesting to compare.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXrA2AC9X0&pp=ygUXdGl0YW5pYyBkaXNjb3ZlcnkgMTk4NSA%3D

thank you.

i know there’s been some questionable comments but I have personally found the thread useful for updates and detailed information that can take hours to find in the news

The New Republic has revealed OceanGate faced a lawsuit in 2018, after an employee claimed they were fired for raising concerns about the depths its submersible could safely travel to.

Court documents obtained by the US-based magazine revealed OceanGate employee David Lochridge - then the company's director of marine operations - filed a counterclaim against them for alleged wrongful termination. He was also sued by the company for disclosing confidential information about the Titan.

In his counterclaim, Mr Lochridge alleged he initially told OceanGate's executive management team about his safety concerns, which included "potential danger to passengers of the Titan as the submersible reached extreme depths", but was ignored.

He claimed to learn the main viewing window in the submersible was only certified to withstand pressures at depths of up to 1,300 meters - while OceanGate intended to take passengers down to more than three times that depth, and said the manufacturer would only certify to the lower depth due to experimental design of OceanGate's viewport.

Mr Lochridge alleged passengers who paid for a spot on the Titan voyages would not be told about his safety concerns, according to his complaints. The case between him and OceanGate was settled out of court a few months later, The New Republic reported.

Thanks Jeande , it is amazing how far they got that ROV into the hull.

Also the bit about dropping like a stone for two and a half hours, really brings home how deep it is.

That’s fantastic @JudgeJ . Seeing that little baby’s name knowing that he went on to help save so many lives .

I love this kind of thing:)

Praying for a miracle for them now with a speculated 20 hours of air supply left.

How tragic that Oceangate’s CEO Stockton Rush ignored safety concerns about the viewing platform on the Titan & endangered the other passengers lives too. Seems like a big dick swinging contest as Oceangate bypassed appropriate regulations & vehicle classifications, calling them an "anathema to innovation” (perhaps spurred on by recent commercial space exploration trips)?

@Spamham

the main viewing window in the submersible was only certified to withstand pressures at depths of up to 1,300 meters - while OceanGate intended to take passengers down to more than three times that depth

The submersible made previous descents exceeding 1,300 meters without the window being a problem .

There's not much control in "dropping like a stone" either.

It seems that money and kudos was more important than the safety of others.

It's entirely likely that they're already dead because the viewing window has not been able to withstand the pressure. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems a possibility.

@Spamham OceanGate on record as below

A licensed marine surveyor will witness a successful dive to 4000 meters, inspect the vessel before and after the dive, and provide a Statement of Fact attesting to the completion of the dive test plan.

Innovation and Risk Mitigation
In addition to designing and building an innovative carbon fiber hull, our team has also developed and incorporated many other elements and procedures into our operations to mitigate risks.
OceanGate’s submersibles are the only known vessels to use real-time (RTM) hull health monitoring. With this RTM system, we can determine if the hull is compromised well before situations become life-threatening, and safely return to the surface. This innovative safety system is not currently covered by any classing agency.
No other submersible currently utilizes real-time monitoring to monitor hull health during a dive. We want to know why. Classed subs are only required to undergo depth validation every three years, whereas our RTM system validates the integrity of the hull on each and every dive.

Wouldn't previous descents have suffered catastrophic collapse if the vessel were shoddy and untested ?

My husband told me that they may be taking sleeping tablets or similar to conserve oxygen. Apparently that’s a ‘thing’. No idea if he just made that up.

We're all hoping they'll be saved before the oxygen runs out but of course there's no guarantee they're still alive at this point. I'm wondering if there's sufficient heating on board? It will be absolutely freezing down at the depth of the Titanic, so hypothermia is a risk. Also, did they take days worth of water? They were only expecting to be down there a number of hours, not days.

I'm still struggling to comprehend this vessel was being controlled by a games controller from the 2000s. If I'd seen that I'd have turned straight around and got out of there!

Not necessarily. There could have been cumulative damage with each mission, not visible to the naked eye. Eventually, resulting in a catastrophic failure.

Yes. It's pretty obvious that it's made up.

@Trixiefirecracker yes, the sleeping tablet thing is true, you use much oxygen when asleep.

Could be they announce it tomorrow. That it's no longer a rescue mission but a recovery.

There's. Christian pastor and author who reverse tithes- he keeps 10% and gives away 90%.

The submersible made previous descents exceeding 1,300 meters without the window being a problem .

Past performance may not be a 100% reliable indicator of future performance though. What if it hit debris, for example. Or the temperature was. Or stress on the vehicle over time demands it's toll.

@Fuckitydoodah the submersible has made 3 previous trips to the Titanic's location before without the window being a problem.

@Fuckitydoodah
Not necessarily. There could have been cumulative damage with each mission, not visible to the naked eye. Eventually, resulting in a catastrophic failure.

Yes that's possible. Personally I believe ocean gate when they say
Classed subs are only required to undergo depth validation every three years, whereas our RTM system validates the integrity of the hull on each and every dive.
Seems way more likely that they'd check before each dive than not. Especially when the CEO is risking his own life.

Heaven forfend that billionaires give up their curiosity to know more about the world. One day, one of those wild flights of fantasy might just pay off. The one thing that can be said of the human race is, there are a lot of us.

Those pics of the cabin interior look horrendously cramped. I cannot comprehend what those poor people must be going through :(

I don’t get the depth video that everyone is talking about. It keeps going down and down and pointing out the depth of different seas. Why is there a big Eiffel tower near the beginning and then a littler version later on? Same goes for the Statue of Liberty. And it carries on going down past the Titanic?! 🤔

I’ve been picturing the 1.5 mile walk I do daily with the dog, then doubling it and trying to picture it vertically.

Can I just ask why the total frenzy over finding 5 male millionaires, when hundreds of unaccompanied child asylum seekers have gone missing and nobody gives a single shit? The hypocrisy is pretty disgusting.

Oh not this again! 😡Go back and read the previous thread. It was covered there.