Missing Titanic Submarine- new thread

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I see the first one is full, is there a new one?

it is a very worrying time for his staff

I think it's quite unlikely that being trapped at the bottom of the sea in the pitch black, dying slowly of hypothermia, dehydration and oxygen deprivation was the CEO's master plan.

The captain said he remains hopeful. They are bringing in equipment to help with the search from the French that is apparently advanced and they heard the banging noses this morning (its 1pm there). I hope they can be found and brought to safety, I couldn't care less about their financial status they are still humans with friends, families and lives and for anyone else to feel different is sick.

Somehow I think the billionaires would pay whatever it costs to be rescued.

I suspect they're all dead also. Even if they made it to the surface then uncontrolled rolling in a small space for days on end doesn't sound survivable, and I would think those types of conditions would make it pretty impossible to control your breathing anyway. A quick death would be a mercy on this case I think.

It does surprise me a bit how little compassion people have for billionaires. But I also think amassing a billion dollars or more and not donating the vast majority of it to help when so many people are in dire circumstances is a very selfish way to live (the Gates foundation seems to be an exception to that mindset). A billion is far more than one family could ever need, and donating 90% of it would still allow them and their families to live in immense luxury indefinitely. I guess people wonder how much billionaires actually care about them if they're not dedicating their riches to helping others.

I do have compassion, particularly for the 19 year old. It's strange to think about the fact that a week ago probably 99% of people on the planet would have wanted to swap lives with him. Now, nobody does.

The disclosure seemed to be fairly upfront, ’This experimental submersible vessel has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, disability, emotional trauma, or death.”
I think most of these men were huge risk takers, one of them has been in to space. I wouldn’t do that either! It’s just a very different mindset.

But that only assumes that they’re still alive. It’s highly likely that they’re not.

I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised to read that the company had other serious difficulties as well as their dubious safety practices.

tortoishelll · Today 16:04

I mean.. the submarine is partially made of old scaffolding poles.

No, they just used them as ballast and would intend to jettison them, so as to return to the surface.

If they are stuck under something, even though the ROV won't be able to attach a winch, it may be able to nudge it, or pull it free, using its manipulator arm. It will also be able to pull the poles free, to give the sub buoyancy.

I’m glad the pp comment was deleted. Some of these posts are 😳

Does it matter? It's not coming out of your pocket is it.

Apparently they have enough oxygen left to last until 10 AM BST. So that’s just over fifteen hours.

While I don’t imagine that they’re going to get to 10 AM and say “right that’s it, oxygen’s gone, let’s stop,” there will surely have to come a point when they conclude that there is no hope of finding anyone alive?

In terms of the noises, I wonder if they’ve ever put down sonar buoys in that area before? There has recently been audio made public of the noises beneath the ocean, and it was fascinating to hear them, and even the scientists had said they hadn’t expected the level of noise which can be heard under the sea. So it’s surely possible that this noise has been there all along, but they’ve never heard it because they’ve never looked for it.

Shahzada Dawood is a noted philanthropist - the family foundation, started by his father has been active since 1960, plus a foundation developed from his company Engro, plus work with the Prince's Trust. and SETI. The first two are largely delivering health-based activities in Pakistan. SETI is space research.

Dinosaurs that died and fell into the water, their bones sank and were preserved in sediments and over time were turned into fossils by heat/pressure. You don't find dino bones (which, btw are NOT thousands, but at least 65 million years old) just lying in water. The oceans that existed in prehistoric times no longer exist in the same locations, which is why many fossilised sea creatures are found in rocks on land.

@OnlyOpenMouthToChangeFeet I don't mean to sound confrontational. I've become interested in whether the doubts about the craft and Ocean gate are wholly justified.
They are certainly good fodder for newspapers! But I wonder if there isn't a bit of Chinese whispers involved.
Anyway, I know if one is busy reading all one can about something like this it can be hard to remember where one read what.

They found remains on board the Vasa ship after what, over three centuries underwater, and did a shit ton of analysis on them. Granted in much shallower waters, which may make a difference to preservation.

So just because they have money they deserve to just die? So glad you're not the one operating the rescue mission.
I bet there's lots of volunteers now involved in this rescue operation too, because one of the very few good things about human kind is that we do come together in an emergency.

I'm not sure I believe they have enough oxygen to last for days in an emergency, given how shoddy the whole thing seems to be with a lack of regard for health and safety. Especially as banging noises were heard yesterday but not today.

Agree with posters saying it doesn't matter if they are rich or not, trapped in a sub is a horrible way to die and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Can't believe the people being so open about how they don't care for millionaires and the memes that have started already on fb.

They said on the live they have trained, skilled scientists analysing the noises with computers and can tell if its normal aquatic noises, other vessels or human made. They are trying to rule it all out.

There has recently been audio made public of the noises beneath the ocean, and it was fascinating to hear them, and even the scientists had said they hadn’t expected the level of noise which can be heard under the sea.

There's been plenty of listening to sounds underwater has been going on for decades, but for a long time it was not discussed in public. I'm not sure how much listening has gone on this specific part of the North Atlantic..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOSUS

This https://oceangate.com/news-and-media/blog/2019-0221-why-titan-is-not-classed.html
is from Ocean Gate on why the vessel wasn't included in the classification system "which assures ship owners, insurers, and regulators that vessels are designed, constructed and inspected to accepted standards."
Well worth a read.

They're a bit late for all this scrambling to rescue the vessel now aren't they?

If you type sounds under the ocean into youtube it brings up some fascinating stuff.

There were bones - including full skeletons - brought up when the Mary Rose was raised, and that had been underwater for considerably longer than a century.

As many as it takes.

HTH.

Lots of equipment coming in to join the search now. Why has it taken so long? It’s now three days since the coast guard was alerted, they have less than 24h left. Praying for a miracle.