Missing Titanic Submarine- new thread

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I see the first one is full, is there a new one?

How many thousands of dollars should someone have paid for their journey to get onto an unseaworthy vessel before we say we won’t help them?

Yup, good to remember for emergencies

Additionally, it looks like the Titan did missions only in 2021 and 2022, and this was the first of 18 they were hoping to do from 2023 onwards. Those who have been down multiple times will have done so in other vehicles as well.

There is nothing inherently wrong in using parts that have been developed by other companies (eg video game controller) as millions will have been spent on that R+D and it may well be one of the most responsive systems out there to human touch.

There wouldn't be any point. There was a thread started earlier this year about a disaster in another part of the world, and the posts from people in the UK were in the main absolutely awful, and the person who did start the thread was dumbfounded by the responses.

Yes. There's a definite undercurrent bubbling on this thread as well whenever migrants are mentioned.

You seem to have an awful lot to say on the subject. No answer to that then?

The NZ one? They made the mistake of downplaying a much bigger tragedy.

Banging in a pattern, every 30 minutes does indicate human activity rather than anything else. Which is absolutely horrendous to think that they may be aware of what is happening to them.

Please take your coat with you on your way out. And close the door after you.

@SheilaFentiman so if other vehicles have been down that deep previously, why is so much being made of the depth at which the sub might be? There are reports that sonars etc won't pick up noise at that depth and that there are few mechanisms for rescuing if that is where the sub is.

Apologies if these are all totally basic questions.

What a horrible thing to say.

The stuff of nightmares. You could write this as a horror film script and it would be awful enough then.

I feel sorry for their families, especially the woman who stands to lose her husband AND son. And for what? An expensive, self-indulgent folly.

Just resist the need to go there. It’s not welcome

The sonar buoys they have dropped can detect down to 13,000 feet. But it's such a vast area. They're looking for a 22 foot converted toilet roll in an area the size of Belgium.

Maybe the fact that you don't have to risk your life to visit those other sites? The people on the Titan didn't go down there out of respect for anyone on the Titanic, they went down because they wanted to do something most people never get the chance to do. Which obviously doesn't mean they shouldn't have all stops pulled out to rescue them, but they shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Vile post. Think about what they must be going through.

To be honest a lot of the interest in this is because it's an unusual situation- titanic also peaks a lot of people's interests and I think the fear and claustrophobia is something lots are terrified of so it appeals to that sort of can't help reading about it even though I'm scared element humans often enjoy. Its not a situation the vast vast majority of people will ever be in so don't need to actively fear it, although I'm sure no one wishes them harm also worth considering I suspect deep down lots recognise its sort of their own choice ergo fault. Less emotion attached to rubbernecking.

Lots of people dissociate from the migrant drownings and the dangerous and scary conditions they often are forced to travel in because it takes a bit more soul searching and emotion to recognise these are humans dying in horrific circumstances in hope of a better life. Its easy to be out of sight out of mind rather than face the injustice. Of course some people are just ignorant and xenophobic and don't care one iota, I think genuine psychopaths are rarer than people who are self preserving.

isn't it because all other similar journeys have been made by official, scientific research projects? In proper, approved vessels?

I think @Bharath is deliberately trying to get the thread deleted.

The banging noises are so reassuring. Praying they can find them today & start the process of rescuing them. I can’t even imagine the fear. Those poor people. Let’s not forget there is a father & son on board. The young lad is only 19. How terrifying for all. Praying for them all today

My turn for a stupid question, which I have tried to find the answer for.

Were they 'dropped' or launched directly over the Titanic site? If so, how is the search area so wife - can they drift at the bottom very far?

I'm not sure discussing costs is particularly appropriate ATM but given it keeps being flagged up...

Take the P-3s (the anti-submarine, ASW, aircraft) as an example....their squadron(s)/crews will have had a training schedule that may well have been written up weeks ago.....for example aircraft X with crew Y may originally have been planned to fly 5-10 hours on an ASW exercise this afternoon off the Canadian Coast....

Cost to the Canadian Tax payer for that training exercise X tens of of thousands of Canadian Dollars.

Suddenly this incident arises, training schedule goes in the bin.

Instead same aircraft X with same Crew Y gets tasked with flying 5-10 hours doing Search patterns over the incident scene. Now there may or may not be an increase in some incidental cost but we are not talking costs increasing by an order f magnitude for that flight because it task has been changed.

Cost to the Canadian Taxpayer will still be X tens of thousands of Canadian Dollars.

I believe they traveled out to the wreck, so they'd have had a journey to get there first. Am I right in thinking there was then a 4.5/5hr timeframe in which it took them to get from the surface to the titanic?