Missing Titanic Submarine- new thread

[YoSof]

I see the first one is full, is there a new one?

I was wondering this too

It is not known whether the vessel has resurfaced and drifted, but with no comms, or if it made it to the bottom but is stuck

I believe they traveled out to the wreck, so they'd have had a journey to get there first. Am I right in thinking there was then a 4.5/5hr timeframe in which it took them to get from the surface to the titanic?

As are many on this thread and others on the subject. More than five people died when the migrant boat recently sank in Greece.

Do you mean the thread complaining that the flooding in NZ wasn't getting the coverage of the Turkey/Syrian earthquake? If so wasn't that the antithesis of what you're complaining about here?

I think a more awful way to die was the nutty putty cave incident. Sends shivers down my spine.

Can anyone explain the difference between Cyclops 1 and Cyclops 2? Why does Cyclops 1 have a hatch and a larger window? Is it not used for such deep dives?

I ask as there's been conversation around wether or not they even know they're missing / untraceable

@tortoishelll the trip was only supposed to last 8 hours, so assuming they're still alive, they're definitely aware of the situation they're in.

I can't stop thinking about this and hoping for good news. I kind of want to believe the banging was something else, and that they've already died quickly, but the 30min intervals certainly suggests human activity.

If this is causing me to feel stressed, I really can't imagine the hellish anguish their families are going through.

@TallulahBetty a previous poster has said it's the vast area in which the sub could be that makes the search so difficult.

The fact this vehicle seems to have no connection to the mother ship other than a 15 minute beep is a massive failure by the company who own it.

I've said it previously but whatever the outcome - and I hope it is a good one - the company responsible for this nightmare should face criminal charges.

It was meant to be an 8 hour trip in total. 2 hours to get down to the Titanic, 4 hours down there and 2 hours to resurface. Which is probably why the mothership waited 8 hours to raise the alarm, particularly as it had gone missing previously for 5 hours (which beggars belief.)

What's concerning is that others that have done the journey say they only took a bottle of water and a sandwich on board with them and had been asked to reduce how much they ate and drank before they got on board to reduce the need to use the very basic toilet. So they'll be majorly dehydrated by this point, dangerously so.

I've said it previously but whatever the outcome - and I hope it is a good one - the company responsible for this nightmare should face criminal charges.

Well the CEO is also trapped in there with little hope of being rescued.

The site itself is about 900 miles from Boston, and 400 miles from Newfoundland, Canada. So obviously not a short journey. Then the actual trip in the sub down to the wreck is about 12,500ft/2.4 miles, and takes approximately 2.5 hours.

Correct, it is shallower dives

Thank you - beautifully described.

I knew who you meant and was replying to a query about a reply from someone who seemed not to "get" the reference - (ad infinitum). That's the trouble with "post" conversations - they get mixed up and convoluted, don't they?

(Real "Heath Robinson " conversations! 😂)

As pp said that thread was the antithesis of what you have issue with.

I think you need some clarity on what it is that’s the problem. If you side with the NZ poster you’re agreeing with their stance.

There are likely other reasons for Greek boat tragedy not getting as much airtime on mn. It’s in the EU and many are less likely to criticise

Approx 90 minute to two-hour time frame to reach the bottom. They then planned to spend 2/3 hours investigating the area, before resurfacing.

The currents at the bottom are apparently very strong. Once they reach the Titanic ‘zone’ they have to actually go searching for the wreckage. There is an article somewhere about a previous trip, where the visitors only got to view the ship for half an hour because it got so lost underwater.

The suggestion of banging has only come from the media.

The coastguard has said that it is underwater noise which is being investigated, it stands to reason that it would. An expert interviewed said it is unlikely to be actual banging as there is a lot of noise down there such as the shifting of the titanic itself and the amount of debris on the ocean floor.

Added to which it’s highly unlikely that they would have been banging just at that time when the buoys were down there, and there’s no way they could have been banging a pattern for four days now.

It’s highly unlikely that they’re even alive still. Which is preferable to a slow suffocation when the oxygen runs out, assuming it hasn’t done so already.

Remember the oxygen reserve is just an estimate, as the naval bloke I saw said, it’s entirely possible that the oxygen could have rapidly depleted, or the device could have sprung a leak. He said whatever happened, it’s likely that it was quick and painless.

I'm on your side here.

It was a totally false analogy to make, and an absolutely appalling one!

My god it just gets more and more horrific. Having only potentially gone down there with a singular bottle of water and a sandwich. They will be absolutely delirious by now, if they're still alive. God I hope they are.

In some ways what we talk about/discuss very much depends on the volume of news coverage itself that we're exposed to. A woman dying of natural causes in her 90s isn't generally a newsworthy event but when the Queen died there was literally no other news for days! Did the Queen dying more sad, or have more impact on my life than migrants drowning at sea? No. But it was documented significantly on all media.

The (iirc) Vietnamese immigrants found in a lorry in Essex had far more news coverage than individual migrant boats, I think because its a rarer occurrence, not because one is more tragic than the other.

WRT the comparison with the migrant boat disaster, the reporting and the situations are different for one.

Often when we hear of a disaster like that it has already happened and we’re only waiting to hear the figures. There is discussion but it’s not ongoing because it’s not an ongoing disaster iyswim.

If a migrant boat had disappeared at sea and there was no knowledge of where it had gone and there was an ongoing effort to find it, it would gain a lot more talk than one which has already sank.

Similarly if this sub had imploded on Sunday it would have been a passing news story at best. What is keeping it going is the search mission and the unusual nature of the sub, etc.

You just can’t compare the two because they’re totally different scenarios.

The CO2 levels will be starting to build up, though - I think it saiid that the "scrubber" which removed the CO2 from the air only had 40 hours working time. High C)2 is as dangerous, if not more so, than low oxygen.

(I apologise if I've misunderstood - I'm not good with technology)

The buoys are left in the water, and continual sounds sent to the plane for it to decipher. The buoys only went down yesterday, picked up the noise apparently every 30 minutes for 4 hours - not days - then stopped.

One bottle of water each doesn't really allow any margin for error at all does it. It sounds like most people are better prepared for a day walking in the countryside than these lot are in "exploring" in the depths of the ocean.