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Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect part 2

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IClaudine · 13/06/2023 08:56

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jgw1 · 13/06/2023 15:00

DuncinToffee · 13/06/2023 14:50

Janiie, we now your opinion of dancing nurses, how do you feel about PM's misleading Parliament?

I am going to be mighty miffed if @Janiie answers you before they explain why their then 56year old hero should have a birthday party having made it illegal for millions of children to do the same.

baroqueandblue · 13/06/2023 15:02

having to rally the troops and keep spirits up must have been very challenging.

@mibbelucieachwell Do you mean like at those vital early Cobra meetings?

Rhondaa · 13/06/2023 15:06

jgw1 · 13/06/2023 15:00

I am going to be mighty miffed if @Janiie answers you before they explain why their then 56year old hero should have a birthday party having made it illegal for millions of children to do the same.

Why do you keep showing yourself up like this? I've answered a trillion times. It wasn't a party, they were at work and lots of tragic kids could still celebrate their birthdays. It wasn't solitary confinement and hairshirts. Well it might have been at your residence.

I shall c&p this and post everytime you ask the very same question. Are you ok?

Kiwano · 13/06/2023 15:10

mibbelucieachwell · 13/06/2023 14:26

It might be that the stress of working so hard affected Johnson's memory. Elevated levels of cortisol are known to impair cognitive function. He really was working tremendously hard in very difficult circumstances and having to rally the troops and keep spirits up must have been very challenging.

I realise that many people were in extremely difficult circumstances and working very hard indeed but Johnson was in such an important position he surely deserves to be exempted from some of the rules that apply to ordinary people.

In case this is serious, at the point he was lying to Parliament he definitely wasn't working that hard. The Covid crisis was in the past - not that he worked that hard even then - but by the lying to Parliament stage he was definitely comfortably following his normal practice of fobbing all the work off onto other people and demanding easy two page summaries of everything he was supposed to know about.

TooBigForMyBoots · 13/06/2023 15:10

Boris is a liar.
In other news bears shit in woods and pope confirmed to be Catholic.

I am embarrassed for the posters who have and continue to back him up. It is mortifying to see women debase themselves for this shyster.Blush

mibbelucieachwell · 13/06/2023 15:13

I certainly won't mention the dancing nurses @Janiie , even if they did seem to be doing a good job of raising morale. High morale is useful for bolstering the immune system and harmful levels of cortisol.

Tbh, I feel it's strange that forgetting about a bit of cake and exactly how many Downing Street workers were having their spirits raised by a few spirits has attracted so much criticism of the former PM.

This is the man who wasn't always allowed security clearance even when foreign security and PM such were his alarmingly scatty habits and previous dalliance with Russian oligarchs ,without his security detail in Italy. The man who signed an extremely problematic deal with the EU. The man who unlawfully prorogued Parliament. Who offended many minorities with his choice of vocabulary. Amongst other things.

With this track record, it makes perfect sense for his supporters to feel he was hard done by over misleading Parliament.

Kiwano · 13/06/2023 15:14

Rhondaa · 13/06/2023 15:06

Why do you keep showing yourself up like this? I've answered a trillion times. It wasn't a party, they were at work and lots of tragic kids could still celebrate their birthdays. It wasn't solitary confinement and hairshirts. Well it might have been at your residence.

I shall c&p this and post everytime you ask the very same question. Are you ok?

That argument might work if it hadn't been the case that Johnson was indeed telling children that they couldn't have birthday parties. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-letter-seven-year-22862455

Boris Johnson's letter to seven-year-old girl about birthday parties

The Prime Minister is facing a furious after revelations of a party for his birthday during the first lockdown

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-letter-seven-year-22862455

baroqueandblue · 13/06/2023 15:18

mibbelucieachwell · 13/06/2023 15:13

I certainly won't mention the dancing nurses @Janiie , even if they did seem to be doing a good job of raising morale. High morale is useful for bolstering the immune system and harmful levels of cortisol.

Tbh, I feel it's strange that forgetting about a bit of cake and exactly how many Downing Street workers were having their spirits raised by a few spirits has attracted so much criticism of the former PM.

This is the man who wasn't always allowed security clearance even when foreign security and PM such were his alarmingly scatty habits and previous dalliance with Russian oligarchs ,without his security detail in Italy. The man who signed an extremely problematic deal with the EU. The man who unlawfully prorogued Parliament. Who offended many minorities with his choice of vocabulary. Amongst other things.

With this track record, it makes perfect sense for his supporters to feel he was hard done by over misleading Parliament.

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Rhondaa · 13/06/2023 15:19

'certainly won't mention the dancing nurses @Janiie, even if they did seem to be doing a good job of raising morale. High morale is useful for bolstering the immune system and harmful levels of cortisol.'

Oh dancing to raise morale? Lovely! Keep those pesky cortisol levels down.

It is the posting of it all over sm that was misjudged, highly insensitive amd should've resulted in multiple disciplinaries. That wouldn't have been so good for high morale mind.

DuncinToffee · 13/06/2023 15:27

To refresh memories, here is Sue Gray's report.

Note that while some of the evidence received by the privilegs committee stems from the evidence gathered by civil servant Sue Gray during her investigation into partygate, it has also taken evidence beyond this.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1078404/2022-05-25_FINAL_FINDINGS_OF_SECOND_PERMANENT_SECRETARY_INTO_ALLEGED_GATHERINGS.pdf

jgw1 · 13/06/2023 15:30

Rhondaa · 13/06/2023 15:06

Why do you keep showing yourself up like this? I've answered a trillion times. It wasn't a party, they were at work and lots of tragic kids could still celebrate their birthdays. It wasn't solitary confinement and hairshirts. Well it might have been at your residence.

I shall c&p this and post everytime you ask the very same question. Are you ok?

@Janiie Does your partner and the people working around your house often attend work with you?

If kids could still celebrate their birthdays, why did the Prime Minister make birthday parties illegal and yet have his own?

MrTiddlesTheCat · 13/06/2023 15:37

I'm getting really annoyed with Tory MPs saying they can't comment on Johnson's accusation about the privileges committee being a kangaroo court as they haven't seen the report yet. WTF! You either trust the parliamentary process or you don't. Waiting to see if you agree with their findings before deciding if they're a kangaroo court is undemocratic.

Rhondaa · 13/06/2023 15:37

'why did the Prime Minister make birthday parties illegal and yet have his own?'

He was at work. No party occurred. Some over enthusiastic plods issued fpns. The end.

Kiwano · 13/06/2023 15:42

Rhondaa · 13/06/2023 15:37

'why did the Prime Minister make birthday parties illegal and yet have his own?'

He was at work. No party occurred. Some over enthusiastic plods issued fpns. The end.

A gathering that was not necessary for work purposes occurred. The law did not allow gatherings unless they were reasonably necessary for work purposes. He was fined. He paid the fine and thereby acknowledged that he had broken the law.

The end

Kiwano · 13/06/2023 15:44

MrTiddlesTheCat · 13/06/2023 15:37

I'm getting really annoyed with Tory MPs saying they can't comment on Johnson's accusation about the privileges committee being a kangaroo court as they haven't seen the report yet. WTF! You either trust the parliamentary process or you don't. Waiting to see if you agree with their findings before deciding if they're a kangaroo court is undemocratic.

Absolutely. Claiming that a committee set up by Parliament with a majority of Tory members even might be a kangaroo report is extremely disrespectul. They don't seem to realise that taking this stance reveals the full depths of their dishonesty.

ilovesooty · 13/06/2023 15:46

DuncinToffee · 13/06/2023 14:50

Janiie, we now your opinion of dancing nurses, how do you feel about PM's misleading Parliament?

She won't answer that.

Because she can't.

mibbelucieachwell · 13/06/2023 16:00

@Janiie The dancing nurses should have been discreet about their morale raising? This implies that there was something wrong with their morale raising. Should we have clapped for them more discreetly?

IClaudine · 13/06/2023 16:04

What time is the report published tomorrow?

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Alexandra2001 · 13/06/2023 16:13

Rhondaa · 13/06/2023 15:19

'certainly won't mention the dancing nurses @Janiie, even if they did seem to be doing a good job of raising morale. High morale is useful for bolstering the immune system and harmful levels of cortisol.'

Oh dancing to raise morale? Lovely! Keep those pesky cortisol levels down.

It is the posting of it all over sm that was misjudged, highly insensitive amd should've resulted in multiple disciplinaries. That wouldn't have been so good for high morale mind.

Would you recommend they resign before these disciplinaries report?

As they did nothing against their terms of employment, what would they be disciplined for?

Alexandra2001 · 13/06/2023 16:17

Rhondaa · 13/06/2023 15:37

'why did the Prime Minister make birthday parties illegal and yet have his own?'

He was at work. No party occurred. Some over enthusiastic plods issued fpns. The end.

Nope, the Met investigation was done at a very senior level, the accused allowed to write in their submissions of guilt or not, this alone was extremely unusual as it allowed a certain amount of collusion.

But even then, over 100 fines issued, including Sunak.

He is a hypocrite and you know it too.

Notonthestairs · 13/06/2023 16:20

IClaudine · 13/06/2023 16:04

What time is the report published tomorrow?

Looks like it will be towards end of the week.

Rhondaa · 13/06/2023 16:21

mibbelucieachwell · 13/06/2023 16:00

@Janiie The dancing nurses should have been discreet about their morale raising? This implies that there was something wrong with their morale raising. Should we have clapped for them more discreetly?

They should have demonstrated awareness and sensitivity. Dance away, have a laugh whatever. Just don't post group dances on sm when people couldn't even visit their poor relatives and of course the dancing hcps were so overwhelmed with work too..

So yes there was 'something wrong with their morale raising'.

DuncinToffee · 13/06/2023 16:23

Alexandra2001 · 13/06/2023 16:17

Nope, the Met investigation was done at a very senior level, the accused allowed to write in their submissions of guilt or not, this alone was extremely unusual as it allowed a certain amount of collusion.

But even then, over 100 fines issued, including Sunak.

He is a hypocrite and you know it too.

He even used lawyers and they couldn't get him out of his birthday bash FPN

Exasperatednow · 13/06/2023 16:24

Clavinova · 13/06/2023 10:45

DuncinToffee
I hope you have forwarded your findings to the appropriate authorities

They clearly know already, hence the investigation. As I have already stated several times - whether Starmer broke the law or not is a moot point - he still told a string of lies, for whatever reason.

No it isn't.

To quote Mean Girls 'stop trying to make fetch happen'.

You trying to make it a thing doesn't make it a thing.

itsgettingweird · 13/06/2023 17:05

Hoppinggreen · 13/06/2023 12:56

Why are we talking about Starmer here?
Whether he’s a paragon of virtue or a dirty rotten liar does not change the awful and completely unacceptable behaviour of Johnson.
If Starmer sacrificed virgins in Durham high street it wouldn’t mitigate what Johnson has done over and over again

Spot on.

Its like a race to the bottom

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