Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect part 2

[IClaudine]

New thread!

And if you believe Johnson didn't mean to lie, you clearly don't know much about his modus operandi. Lying is in his nature, always has been.

I think you are being unfair to Johnson. He lies so frequently he probably does it by accident without even realising.

I understand that is the defence that his fans would like to put forward.

Lol! i do enjoy your posts! for many years now, they are always highly entertaining.

Like i said, for the umpteenth time, Starmer was investigated and found not to have breached Covid Laws, with acceptance comes peace!

@IClaudine Johnson lied to the House. Deliberately. Is that not serious in your view?

Johnson claims he felt it wasn't a lie. So he was, on this occasion at least, pure of heart. Incompetent, as to everyone else it was clearly a lie but his pureness of heart must surely count for a lot. All he ultimately wanted was to deliver for the people while keeping staff morale high.

That man has done nothing for the country - he messed up Covid, and frankly I can't think of a single thing he did for the good of the country. He's also an embarrassment on TV - why does he portray hoimself and a bumbling toff?! Who even likes that?

Fortunately you don't need to think of the good things that Boris has done for the country as other posters have already provided them in great detail.
To save you reading all those threads I will list them all here:

That's the lot.

I think what we are all guilty of missing here is that Johnson has escaped punishment for what should be a very serious offence, which in any serious democracy, carry a custodial sentence.

Johnson deliberately misled parliament, for no good reason (i can see certain national security issues might justify lying)

He resigns and escapes all censure, laughable and needs to be addressed by Parliament.

@jgw1 An exhaustive list.....

TBF to Johnson, Ukraine and the early support he gave to them was a good thing but of course, it was pure opportunism, he saw which way the wind was blowing and charged out in front shouting "follow me!"

He didn't show the same judgement when he allowed Putins money to go into the Tory party.....

An utterly comphrensive summary of all the achievements his many fans have given during his time in government.

I can't decide if you are serious or not!

I'm sorry, your point is totally eluding me. The quote you give, relating to Starmer, is simply a statement of fact.

But it appears that two advisers briefed him before the Parliament session that he could not say what he did say, because it would be a big fat lie. Unless he is going to claim an exceptionally short memory or a plot by those advisers, he must have been intending to lie. And the conspiracy accusation will hardly work given that the advisers simply gave him what was indubitably correct advice.

"But it appears that two advisers briefed him before the Parliament session that he could not say what he did say, because it would be a big fat lie. Unless he is going to claim an exceptionally short memory or a plot by those advisers, he must have been intending to lie. And the conspiracy accusation will hardly work given that the advisers simply gave him what was indubitably correct advice."

Not only this. The Times reported that the "all guidance was folllowed" claim was struck out of a draft of his statement to Parliament. Evidence that he had been informed that he should not make that claim. But he did it anyway. More than once.

Facts?
Unimportant.

We are much more interested in irrelevant links.

Brave Sir Boris, the purest of hearts, bravest of braaaave

It might be that the stress of working so hard affected Johnson's memory. Elevated levels of cortisol are known to impair cognitive function. He really was working tremendously hard in very difficult circumstances and having to rally the troops and keep spirits up must have been very challenging.

I realise that many people were in extremely difficult circumstances and working very hard indeed but Johnson was in such an important position he surely deserves to be exempted from some of the rules that apply to ordinary people.

Wow, that really taking Boris apologism to the next level. Stand aside, Clav and Janiie, the true master is here.

This isn't serious is it?

Also @mibbelucieachwell if Boris can be given exemption because of the extreme stress, would you agree the same must apply to the dancing nurses? I realise they were 'only' saving people's actual lives, but some generosity of spirit could be applied.

In your next post please include about Johnson's function in keeping the pot plants watered. Ta.

Its very good though, I'd be proud of it.

'In your next post please include about Johnson's function in keeping the pot plants watered. Ta.'

They probably just tell Sir Keir Starmer to have regular drinks of water tbh.

Don't mention the attention seeking, highly unprofessional and inappropriate dancing nurses! It is verboten.

Janiie, we now your opinion of dancing nurses, how do you feel about PM's misleading Parliament?