Thread 25, Sunak - Peerages, Privileges & the Covid Inquiry

[Notonthestairs]

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4806467-thread-24-sunak-and-the-local-elections-aftermath?page=1

@itsgettingweird your point about bringing back Liz Truss still stands firm though - it would be beyond insane. They have just completely given up. I wish they'd do a proper job and just call a GE. Throwing in the towel right now would earn them a single, very tiny Brownie point with me.

It is sort of hilarious, in an upsetting way. But we may as well enjoy the gallows humour, no?

I don't think there is any chance of the Conservatives bringing back Truss any time soon. A few might suggest a revisionist review of her policies but I don't think they'd dare voice them out loud in the next year .

But post election the IEA and its cronies will spend the next 5 years publishing a plethora of articles pushing their/Truss policies for the gullible. Additional reasons if any were necessary to block Truss' honours list.

That article made for truly depressing reading though. The Conservatives are planning a negative campaign because after 13 years their standing is so poor they've got no positive stories to spin. That's quite an acknowledgment of failure.

"We have a choice between extremely bad alternative outcomes at the moment — and a recession is probably the least bad one,” a senior minister said. Some Conservative MPs go further, arguing, like Hunt’s adviser, that a recession may now be the only way. “Privately everyone is agreeing with Hunt’s advisers that a recession is probably necessary. But you can’t admit that publicly because it is electoral suicide,” one said.

Changing leaders for the fourth time in two years, and changing back to the one who lasted 7 weeks and trashed the economy, would be just like putting up a big flashing sign saying "We're desperate". The fact that the thought has even crossed Tory MPs' minds shows how unbelievably stupid some of them are.

The fact that the thought has even crossed Tory MPs' minds shows how unbelievably stupid some of them are

It’s just confirming what we already know.

We have a choice between extremely bad alternative outcomes

Title of the next thread?

Is that Truss thing serious? I’ve only been glancing through this thread today and presumed it was a joke

More on Lebedev, is this all coming out because Johnson resigned or was this play part in his resignation?

https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1673062898472558593?t=s0KEGlCi0fWwJ7wLNQNXQA&s=19

🚨 In 2020 the Russian embassy told the British government the Kremlin “of course” welcomed a peerage for Evgeny Lebedev

It said Boris Johnson’s nominee had strengthened UK-Russia ties

And said he could use Moscow in his title(!)— an unprecedented step

Revealed to me via FOI

When exactly did we switch from current inflation is caused by external forces e.g. the war in Ukraine to it’s caused by public sector pay rises? I assume it was the point we decided we were ignoring public sector pay reviews.

Although I’d love to hear how pay rises people haven’t had yet causes inflation if Rishi feels like answering a question.

Bit off topic but worth reading (and then screaming into a pillow). This is what happens when you keep the NHS short staffed and under resourced -

The UK “underperforms significantly” on tackling its biggest killer diseases, in part because the NHS has been weakened by years of underinvestment, according to the report from the King’s Fund health thinktank. It “performs poorly” as judged by the number of avoidable deaths resulting from disease and injury and also by fatalities that could have been prevented had patients received better or quicker treatment.

The comparative study of 19 well-off nations concluded that Britain achieves only “below average” health outcomes because it spends a “below average” amount for every person on healthcare.

www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/26/britons-earlier-deaths-linked-to-nhs-underinvestment-study

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/26/britons-earlier-deaths-linked-to-nhs-underinvestment-study?CMP=share_btn_tw

Happy birthday NHS. This was pretty much the state the Tories left it in last time I think. Labour managed to bring all these stats in line with other countries. I don’t know if I have confidence in Starmer to do the same.

Further recognition that the Government is running out of ideas & energy -

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Excl: Tory MPs with slim majorities are spending less time in Westminster in a bid to shore up their electoral prospects in their constituencies, as gloom grips the party ahead of next election

Tory MPs also claim thin legislative programme reduces pressure to be in SW1

One said: “There’s nothing much on the agenda. We finished at 4.30pm one day last week...What’s the point of coming down to Westminster if we’re not doing anything? There’s the sense of managed decline”

twitter.com/los_fisher/status/1673218001615695872?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Begs the question what would unmanaged decline look like?

https://twitter.com/BrexitEssex/status/1673268392206168065Reform have started a new poll because they didn’t like the results of the last one.

Definitely don’t share this.

The new poll is not going any better

Oh hahahaha! Priceless!

'hold your nerves'

https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1673278953380024320?s=20

Rishi Sunak says he will make decisions over public sector pay that 'people may not like' in a bid to control inflation

At what point is going to make the decision to increase the amount of tax he pays on his income so it is the same proportion as a nurse pays on theirs?

We need a new thread. Any ideas for a title?

Good question.

Thread 26 - Sunak is holding his nerve on the sinking ship

In the voice of Cpl Jones.

"Don't panic Capt Sunak"

"Hold your nerve"

"They don't like it up em".

Quoting myself @Blossomtoes

No idea how long a thread title can be mind.

Alternatively - The ship is sinking! Thank God we’ve got Rishi

before we run out of space

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4835909-thread-27-sunak-the-ship-is-sinking-hold-your-nerve

Combination of some great thread title suggestions!

Just spotted my error, got ahead of myself with thread number, should be 26 instead of 27, sorry

Could you ask mnhq to amend it for you @DuncinToffee?