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Local election results

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KenAdams · 05/05/2023 07:51

Is anyone following the local election results?

It's not looking good for the Tories is it?

I have a question if anyone can answer it for me - NW Leicestershire has been declared "hung" due to no majority. However, Labour have 18 seats and the Conservatives 12. How is that not considered a majority?

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Thegoodbadandugly · 05/05/2023 19:19

How anyone can vote Tory is beyond me, have you not saw the state of the hospitals? The ambulances that people have been stuck in outside a&e for hours if not days, people having to sleep on rock hard chairs at a&e, very sick people being sent home from hospital because they can't get a bed.

TheHateIsNotGood · 05/05/2023 19:24

Back to the OP and today's Local election results - yes, I've been watching it via a map with results all day. Great results for the UK today.

I particularly like the increase in NOC Councils - best for local services that no political party exerts it's own views on them, but that the issues and matters before each Council are centre-stage instead.

MyopicBunny · 05/05/2023 19:35

Thegoodbadandugly · 05/05/2023 19:19

How anyone can vote Tory is beyond me, have you not saw the state of the hospitals? The ambulances that people have been stuck in outside a&e for hours if not days, people having to sleep on rock hard chairs at a&e, very sick people being sent home from hospital because they can't get a bed.

It's so ridiculous. I had a baby in 2009 - calm, responsive staff. Excellent care. And I had a baby in the same hospital in 2019. This time I had people being nasty and gaslighting me and telling me I wasn't in labour, yet because they didn't have space for me on the delivery suite.

Anyone who uses public services and votes Tory is incredibly dim.

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MyopicBunny · 05/05/2023 19:37

pointythings · 05/05/2023 17:40

The Blair years were overall pretty successful. Investment in the NHS and reduction in waiting lists, introduction of SureStart and nursery funding, reintroduction of the NMW to name but a few. By contrast I can think of only one thing the Tories have done that was good which is marriage equality.

100% agreed.

wildinthecountry · 05/05/2023 19:44

Public services have been starved of cash , look at the state of social services , time and time again children being murdered by their own parents , I dread to see the funding cuts SS have suffered under the Tories .

pointythings · 05/05/2023 19:53

@TheHateIsNotGood in my town we have three very strong independents, all three of whom were reelected. I voted for the one in my local ward because he and his fellows have actually rolled up their sleeves and done visible, tangible stuff for our town. I'm also very glad to see the Greens doing so well.

Hell121 · 05/05/2023 19:54

@Thegoodbadandugly have you seen the state of the NHS in Wales - do you really think a Labour government will see our hospitals significantly improve?

TheHateIsNotGood · 05/05/2023 20:00

Yes - similar here too pointy, lucky here in my ward to have a very good councillor who also happens to be Green almost as an aside as the local work he actually does is more important. Wins by a landslide every time.

Overall, the Greens and LDs have gained and this Council is now NOC from previous Indy Control.

TheHateIsNotGood · 05/05/2023 20:02

Should have added, most of the Independents here are ex-Tories who smelled the coffee way back, when the LDs were breathing down their neck.

pointythings · 05/05/2023 20:27

TheHateIsNotGood · 05/05/2023 20:02

Should have added, most of the Independents here are ex-Tories who smelled the coffee way back, when the LDs were breathing down their neck.

My area has always been completely true blue Tory, to the point where nobody breathed down their neck. Until they redrew some boundaries and suddenly my town was getting cut off from funding and it was going to other places where the majorities were looking shaky. That has come back to bite them massively.

I like to see NOC in councils. It forces people to work together and compromise. Wish we had a political system that enabled that to happen at GE level...

TheHateIsNotGood · 05/05/2023 20:46

The only solution I can see is to evolve out of Party Politics altogether - can you imagine how many toxic structures of belief would crumble. Nothing tangible would blow apart; people would actually have to think about things themselves.

It seems to be starting at grass-roots level now at least. And remember we did once have Martin Bell in Parliament from 97-01 (The Man in the White Suit) so there is a precedent.

Clavinova · 05/05/2023 20:46

Difference was that you could easily find another NHS dentist then

Apparently not -
October 2007
Large numbers of people are going without dental treatment and some even report extracting their own teeth because they cannot find an NHS dentist in their area
A third of those surveyed (35%) said there were no NHS dentists nearby...
Most (84%) of the 750 dentists surveyed said the contract had not made it easier for patients to get NHS treatment and 45% said their practice was not taking new NHS patients.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/15/health.healthandwellbeing
Feb 2007
Thousands of patients are likely to be refused dental treatment until the start of the new financial year in April due to a cash crisis in the health service.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2007/feb/08/health.medicineandhealth

countrygirl99 · 05/05/2023 20:53

And the same stats now are what?

MakesMeFeelSad · 05/05/2023 20:55

Hoppinggreen · 05/05/2023 15:57

They have set the cause of women in positions of power back decades by picking ones that were incompetent/awful or both

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My thoughts exactly, it's almost as if they did it intentionally as well

DuncinToffee · 05/05/2023 20:57

Clavinova · 05/05/2023 20:46

Difference was that you could easily find another NHS dentist then

Apparently not -
October 2007
Large numbers of people are going without dental treatment and some even report extracting their own teeth because they cannot find an NHS dentist in their area
A third of those surveyed (35%) said there were no NHS dentists nearby...
Most (84%) of the 750 dentists surveyed said the contract had not made it easier for patients to get NHS treatment and 45% said their practice was not taking new NHS patients.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/15/health.healthandwellbeing
Feb 2007
Thousands of patients are likely to be refused dental treatment until the start of the new financial year in April due to a cash crisis in the health service.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2007/feb/08/health.medicineandhealth

Hundreds of people were forced to queue from 4am for a place on an NHS dentist list in scenes akin to lines 'outside bakeries in the Soviet Bloc'.
More than 300 people reportedly stood in line outside Smile Dental Care in Kings Lynn on Tuesday following a one-line announcement on the practice's website saying: 'We will be taking on new NHS patients from 2nd May.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12045933/Hundreds-forced-stand-line-4am-place-NHS-dentist-list.html

Clavinova · 05/05/2023 21:04

countrygirl99
And the same stats now are what?

No idea - I don't think the stats are very good.
I didn't claim it was easy to find an NHS dentist locally - you did (under Labour).

CelerEtAudax · 05/05/2023 21:07

Rainyday35 · 05/05/2023 08:37

Depressing news to wake up to. Everyone believes Labour can wave some magic wand and everything will go back to normal! I think things will actually get worse under a Labour government if that’s what happens in the next GE…

So long as the Tories are out I don't think anyone is really that bothered TBH.

Inthedarkagain · 05/05/2023 21:10

BlackieGrey · 05/05/2023 08:40

Yes, because the Tories have done such a fab job in the last few years...

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And the reason they cant fix the country is because the Tories have literally thrown the UK on a bonfire.

It's not that the opposition are terrible, it is because the Tories have been so appallingly bad and corrupt that it is going to take a miracle to fix it.

Samphiredragonfly · 05/05/2023 21:10

Not everyone is as firmly welded to the tories as you @Clavinova. Bombarding us with cut and paste really isn't going to change our minds.

Clavinova · 05/05/2023 21:21

Samphiredragonfly

You can vote for whichever party you like in the next general election (I won't stop you) - at least 15% of voters haven't decided yet.

Inthedarkagain · 05/05/2023 21:23

Samphiredragonfly · 05/05/2023 21:10

Not everyone is as firmly welded to the tories as you @Clavinova. Bombarding us with cut and paste really isn't going to change our minds.

It's easy to be determined in defending the shitty behaviour of the Tories if you are getting paid, are one of them or shagging one of them.

As today has proven, comments on a parenting site does not convince people to ignore the obvious.

Clavinova · 05/05/2023 21:33

Inthedarkagain
As today has proven, comments on a parenting site does not convince people to ignore the obvious

Why did posters waste their time supporting Jeremy Corbyn in 2019?

Chatillon · 05/05/2023 21:34

Clavinova is treated on the NHS I believe.

Clavinova · 05/05/2023 21:39

Chatillon
Clavinova is treated on the NHS I believe

Actually, I haven't needed to see a GP for a health issue for over 10 years - lucky me.