Thread 23. Sunak - Unicorn Kingdom

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previouus thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4769680-thread-22-sunak-taxes-truth-and-tories?page=40&reply=125746141

I watched her interview. I'm not convinced the met got it wrong. When she was talking she said that she was moved to the side with "the other protesters", surely if she wasn't there to protest she wouldn't have used the word other?
You can be royalist and still be part of just stop oil.

I'm no fan of the Met, and was thinking they'd messed up big time until she spoke, that seemed like a Freudian slip to me. It will be interesting to see what happens with the complaints.

I am not sure any Stop Oil protesters are bonkers Royalists like she appeared to be!

She went there on her own specifically to stand on the Mall. She's been photographed at other Royal events, including stood outside BP.

As far as I’m aware the police no longer believe she was part of the protest.

And they’ve made quite clear in their previous statement that they weren’t banning protests outright and there were lots of protests they let happen. So if she was just sitting there minding her own business it’s a bit of a mystery why she was arrested. Unless the Met are being slightly economical with the truth. (Never)

Oh the other hand, congratulations to the Met for very publicly making the law look the complete clusterfuck that it is. Both at home and internationally. Arresting a foreign national was genius.

https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1656682087985057796

Nothing to see here. Just the government using secondary legislation to sneak through some things the Lords threw out of the public order act.

Not sure they’d counted on the Lords actually reading the legislation. Perhaps a bit too used to their MPs not bothering.

Sunak could get away with throwing Braverman under the bus if he wanted to
Yeah but Suella is pretty hench, she could beat the shit out of the tiny little manlet🥊

The royal fan was arrested for 'potential to cause a disturbance'. It beggars belief that law like that was ever allowed on the statute books. Every single one of us has that potential, so should we all be arrested?

It is a shit law. It has too wide a definition. If the royal fan was arrested just for being there then that's outrageous and the law that allowed I needs to be looked at. I just thought her language was curious during that interview. I really hope that they find a way to make amends.

It is a shit law. It has too wide a definition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_scrutiny

Hopefully our courts would hold the same thought.

Aw, bless. It must be lovely to be so optimistic.

Meanwhile, as we know the UK courts are required to do what the UK government tells them to. Even if it contravenes a previously agreed international treaty.

The latest example being a move to retrospectively change the law to deny unlawfully imprisoned Republicans receiving compensation.

(The longer memoried amongst us will remember that when Workfare was found to be unlawful, the government broke the speed of sound to change the law to prevent compensation being awarded).

She could get Penny to lend her a sword.

The week in Tory is back (83 posts, so read on after 66)

For a change, I’m going to begin the latest #TheWeekInTory with some news about Labour.

Don't think this makes things any better, because it doesn't.

I implore you, by all you hold dear, not to read this thread.

twitter.com/RussInCheshire/status/1656991810273566721?s=20

Hunt caught lying again

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1656978005711790080?s=20
"It is simply not the case" that Brexit is a drag on the economy, Jeremy Hunt tells ITV.

"The figures don't show that".

Here's what the figures from the Government's own Office for Budget Responsibility actually show.

^^

I've never heard Peter Stefanovic so frustrated. He even said the word 'bollocks' twice! Worth a listen.
Yes, it's about Hunt and Sunak lying. Sigh.
https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1656971538728472576

Pretty much every journalist in the U.K. should hold their head in shame that it has come to this. If they’d done their jobs and challenged the lies from the start like KGM did on C4 the other night, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Well, the endpoint is that as a profession, journalism is dead.

Imagine Woodward and Bernstein in the current climate.

That nice Mr Turner from Redcar whose wife didn’t get elected after 3 counts has accused his opponents of lying. He’s obviously not aware that lying is mandatory now.

https://news.sky.com/story/tory-crime-commissioner-triggered-two-police-investigations-into-political-opponents-during-local-elections-bid-12879194

It goes deeper than journalists asking questions and challenging lies. The rot goes much deeper down - who owns our media and what do they want.
Because whatever it is it is not for the benefit of citizens of the UK.

Connected to this there is also the issue that rather than have non politically aligned experts dissecting & exploring key issues the media has shifted to inviting on have the grubby spawn of think tanks. They are only there to present the thoughts of those that have bunged money to their think tank. There isnt a principle between them.

We are riddled with vested interests and their lackeys. Journalists & editors are only part of the problem.

Even when journalists try to investigate they get this sort of rubbish back.

Mordaunt & the IEA.

twitter.com/writesbright/status/1657029891726925831?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Yes, @frasernelson is actually claiming that @FullFact -and others who point out falsehoods from politicians and the media - are a threat to free speech.

twitter.com/jdportes/status/1657023454305038336?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

IMO Telegraph opinion pieces are where the grubbiest elements of think tanks seem to congregate.
Heaven forbid anyone analyses their fictions.

Meanwhile sovereignty -

Very quietly, the Home Office has used a ministerial power to directly overrule parliament. It’s a chilling development

twitter.com/iandunt/status/1657037299358507011?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Its the will of the people in Moscow who pay for the Tories

Where's Oliver Cromwell when you need him ?

"genuine mistake"

More than 800 uncounted postal votes have been found following last week's local elections in North Lincolnshire.
A total of 864 votes for the election in the Broughton and Scawby ward had been found, but only after the result had been declared, the council said.
The law does not allow votes to be counted following a declaration.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-65570851