Thread 23. Sunak - Unicorn Kingdom

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previouus thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4769680-thread-22-sunak-taxes-truth-and-tories?page=40&reply=125746141

I'm sure it's not at all related but BJ hasn't actually voted in parliament for more than 2 months.

That comment was pure class 😂🤣😂🤣

Agree that was perfectly timed!

I've just clocked that Sunak is safe until at least October because he gets years grace - that's pretty good timing for Johnson because he wouldn't have to get his hands dirty doing much (if any) actual governing before the next election.

The 1922 committee can change that rule any time they like. I'm not saying they will, but it's no protection if the MPs want him out.

Yes that's true.

Hmmm. Just had a look at https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mps/ and it's interesting which members have not made recent appearances, if the previously mentioned initials are correct.

Weather to follow, really.

When have they not been very angry ? Also who gives a shit.

Charlie Brooker said a while back "Doesn't it seem like the cunts have been rolling sixes for quite a while ?". Maybe this is payback.

I seem to remember reading something about a local-ish mp being arrested for rape and now i cant find it, so I assumed it was the same person. I think it was domestic. (I'm SW)

Keep it to yourself, but the Daily Mail has started campaigning for Labour and the LibDems. Cunning Andrew Neill has infiltrated their inner circle.

You know where to put your X now

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12078999/Britain-heading-seismic-electoral-reform-thatll-left-power.html

They need Sunak - some understanding of the widespread practice of using goats to carry our sins into the wilderness helps here. It's pretty plain from here. They will let him skip along. like the excited schoolboy he pretends to be, attracting more and more karma. and then they will dump him with a new model, just in time to say to the electorate "Look, you can vote for us now, he's gone".

If we take the next election has to happen by Jan 2025, then you can probably start to work out the timings.

Ideally the new guy (I can't see it being a woman, but bless them for imagining they had a chance) will be in place for a rabble-rousing conference in October and a May 2024 election,

Even Tory fanbois media clearly hasn't got Sunaks back. It's subtle but it's hard not to feel there isn't the same enthusiasm in the relatively few Sunak stories they run. And then of course there is the ever-present usual Tory xenophobia that's just below the surface.

Andrew Neil tweeted this. Marina Purkiss replied "Don't threaten me with a good time."

Indeed. No one I work with is remotely scared of a coalition. Some from curiosity and some because they are adults.

Coalition? Totally here for it. Democracy, innit?

And with a bit of luck, the Lib Dems would make PR the price of their involvement.

It isn’t MF. That was a different rape allegation and the charges were dropped IIRC.

A and R are nice letters.

I’ve got a horrible feeling there’s a 3rd Tory MP somewhere but I don’t know if there are charges or whether it’s just an open secret IYKWIM.

Will we have another referendum ? Bearing in mind how the LDs were shafted in the last one in 2011.

For many years, I've pondered that the easiest way to solve the FPTP and unelected second chamber conundrum* is to simply use the existing electoral system to deliver two representatives. The top one going to the HoC, and the runner up going to a second chamber with less power, but more oversight. This would naturally provide a balance in government and also keep a local connection to the upper chamber which it currently lacks.

*That is of course if you accept that our electoral system needs any reform at all.

If I were the Lib Dems and I held the balance of power then no, the implementation of PR would be the price of my involvement. They'd be wise to put the implementation of electoral reform in their manifesto, as a direct policy to be passed by Parliament not a referendum.

But they may not feel the same, of course.

Priti Patel

"Socialists that want to see Britain "forced back into the UK"

twitter.com/AlexTaylorNews/status/1657402098999341064?s=20

That is brilliant. It’s almost as good as her war on counter-terrorism and the made up numbers from the covid press conference.

Data triangulation makes it possible to determine an extraordinary amount of information simply by connections. Even when a data point is in itself a void.

I used to explain it as the "no point in staying off Facebook" effect.

It doesn't take many people who have you in their address book, and who join Facebook, for Facebook (other data hoovering services are available) to know pretty much everything there is to know about you. And that's without you ever creating an account.

Firstly it knows you exist - since your email address crops up in your friends address books (remember how Facebook offered to scan your contacts ?). From there it starts to know if you are a member or not. If you are not it can still know enough about you to punt your details to advertisers. After all, if your friends like x,y, and z, then it's likely you will to. And you will also fit into other monetisable demographics. The more people Facebook can draw connections from and too (1st, 2nd, 3rd line connections) then the accuracy of it's guesses about you improves.

The Data Protection Act deliberately totally failed to address this phenomenon.

Suffice to say is given enough data about enough people, you can tell a lot about the people you haven't got data on.

This would have remained a mere curiosity if we (i.e. mankind and techies) hadn't almost immediately (in social terms) then come up with a mechanism to trawl that data at the speed of thought using language modelling to analyse unbelievable amounts of information. But we did, and here we are.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the revival show that is the Tories party continues to party like it's 1974. Either that, or they are morphing into a tribute act to the 1980s Labour party.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-conservatives-priti-patel-cdo-b2338199.html

She's reading from a script isn't she, so its not like she was ad libbing and slipped up, she read that out.

She's reading from a script isn't she, so its not like she was ad libbing and slipped up, she read that out.

Scriptwriter is clearly a 5th columnist.

Clearly she still has nightmares about But Jeremy Corbyn.

Why are they so scared of socialists? Is it because they want to help everyone, and people like Priti can't comphrehend why you would do anything that was in your own selfish interest?