Thread 23. Sunak - Unicorn Kingdom

[DuncinToffee]

previouus thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4769680-thread-22-sunak-taxes-truth-and-tories?page=40&reply=125746141

I'm confused I thought migrants on boats was supposed to be very bad?

Final Locals 2023 scores on the doors

LAB: 2657 (+537)
CON: 2296 (-1063)
LIBDEM: 1628 (+407)
GREEN: 481 (+241)

Thanks Dunc. I am pleased about Labour seats obviously, but also delighted for LDs and Greens, they deserve it too.

Health Minister Neil O'Brien tells @BBCr4today the Tory manifesto pledge to recruit 6,000 GPs by 2024 will not be met. He says ex-Health Sec Sajid Javid had already admitted we "will not be able to hit that target

https://twitter.com/LizzyBuchan/status/1655836402876030977?s=20

No surprise Sunak left the Southampton surgery he was visiting via a side door avoiding the local reporters who were waiting for him.

But they are going to buy each GP a new phone whilst giving millions to their mates to do so.

Big boats good. Small boats bad.

My two NDNs are Doctors, husband and wife. They said the staff shortage for Doctors is absolutely chronic and they can't seem to recruit anyone and that so many of them are emigrating to Australia. And that the training is accepted without fail over there, so no internship or retraining.

And their student loans get written off. Why wouldn’t you if you were a newly qualified doc? Maybe we should start writing their loans off if they stay.

The GP phones plan is to bring in phone line queuing technology. There won't be any more appointments available, you will instead get to wait in a queue for 2 hours before being told that.

Don’t most of them have queuing systems anyway?

Shah! You'll upset the squirrel

My GP has "ask my GP" which requires you to log into the site at precisely 8am and wait half an hour to be fobbed off, the chat is then "closed" before you can respond, and any reply or clarification has to wait until 8am the next working day. I don't actually know how people get appointments because I haven't managed to since the system was installed over lockdown one. I'm supposed to have regular blood tests but haven't had any for 4 years because I can't navigate the system.

I find showing up at the surgery very effective. It’s the only way I can get an appointment these days.

No problem when you WFH (like wot I does). I bet doctors hate that.

But it's yet another driver between classes and sexes, as most women are unlikely to be able to just turn up on spec.

All I heard was the interviewee on R4 this morning refusing to answer if you can go straight to a physio with back pain. It was very much one of those interviews "we are doing this but can't actually answer how it'll work" because we haven't thought it through.

I tried that. They looked at me like I was an intruder and then still sent me a text with a list of appointments to choose from which I could not negotiate...

That's terrible

Dickensian

Dunno, I left the UK when the system was still functioning. The government stooge on the radio seemed to think the issue people were angry about was ringing and ringing and ringing but only hearing the engaged tone. Some nice, calming queue music will solve the issue. Apparantly.

We have a lot of technology involved with booking appointments here in Sweden which I find works very well. We don't go through receptionists. But at the end of the day it only works if you have the doctors to back it up. No amount of tech will magic up time with a GP if there are no GPs.

that might help but then again the greater the shortfall in staff, the more stressful difficult & risky the work is & the harder it will be to persuade anyone to take it on.
We may be past a point of no return, a healthcare death spiral😵

Health Secretary today admits the prime minister has missed the first part of one of his five big pledges.

Steve Barclay effectively acknowledges NHS has missed its target to eliminate 18-month waits by last month

He says numbers "have decreased by over 90%" since 2021

Which suggests still about c.10,000 who have been waiting more than 78 weeks

Maybe there could be a public campaign (official or otherwise. either suits me ...) to name it ?

If the powers that be thought Boaty McBoatface was bad, I hope my fellow subjects can do me proud.

Maybe "His Majesties Prison Ship Braverman" ?
"HMS Sunak"

or possibly more (in)appropriately "The Titanic" after Tory election losses ?

Inappropriate ? Well with the Titanic, the banned played on.

I'll get me coat ...

I can't get past the optics of the British establishment sticking brown people on ships with the intention of eventually transporting them to a far away land against their will. Haven't they already pushed through legislation to allow them to clap irons on the kids?

I think the kids will go down mines or up chimneys if we still have any. Sure we can find a few sweat shops to send them to if we don’t.