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Thread 23. Sunak - Unicorn Kingdom

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DuncinToffee · 27/04/2023 09:43

previouus thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4769680-thread-22-sunak-taxes-truth-and-tories?page=40&reply=125746141

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Notonthestairs · 04/05/2023 12:15

I have voted.

I was stopped outside to ask if I had ID.

Now that might have been to be helpful.
Or.
It might have been to ensure that they didn't have to record me being turned away. Once I was inside they'd have to record it. So it's an easy way to fiddle the figures if you like.

They don't have any authority outside the polling station.

L1ttledrummergirl · 04/05/2023 12:21

We aren't voting today in my area. Dh and I have gone to London instead, to see the star wars fans exhibition. May the fourth be with you.

Have also swung by the Palace where some idiot has been given a loudspeaker and is shouting at everyone to keep walking because its a cordoned off road and we are all clearly to stupid to move if a car comes.Confused

Thanks for the support for my friend.

RafaistheKingofClay · 04/05/2023 12:29

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2023 12:15

I have voted.

I was stopped outside to ask if I had ID.

Now that might have been to be helpful.
Or.
It might have been to ensure that they didn't have to record me being turned away. Once I was inside they'd have to record it. So it's an easy way to fiddle the figures if you like.

They don't have any authority outside the polling station.

There’s quite a few people on Twitter saying this.

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2023 12:33

Interesting. He was so smiley and chirpy I didn't have the heart to say you can't ask me that.

I was the only one in the polling station! They said it had been very quiet so far. But I think my area tends to vote in the evening anyway.

I don't like elections but I do love to vote (appreciate that makes little sense!)

DuncinToffee · 04/05/2023 13:16

L1ttledrummergirl · 04/05/2023 12:21

We aren't voting today in my area. Dh and I have gone to London instead, to see the star wars fans exhibition. May the fourth be with you.

Have also swung by the Palace where some idiot has been given a loudspeaker and is shouting at everyone to keep walking because its a cordoned off road and we are all clearly to stupid to move if a car comes.Confused

Thanks for the support for my friend.

Happy Star Wars day, hope you didn't walk too slow or interlocked arms Wink

Met's tolerance is very low according to their Twitter page

Our tolerance for any disruption, whether through protest or otherwise, will be low.

We will deal robustly with anyone intent on undermining this celebration.

twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1653745710724968448?s=20

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DuncinToffee · 04/05/2023 13:22

https://twitter.com/edwinhayward/status/1654080542550130690?s=20

THREAD: EXAMPLES OF VOTER SUPPRESSION

Here are just a handful of examples of people being denied their vote today because of Tory voter suppression.

There are already more examples within this short thread than the total number of cases of voter fraud over the last few years.

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RafaistheKingofClay · 04/05/2023 14:14

Certainly their tolerance for women and people who aren’t white is very low.

borntobequiet · 04/05/2023 14:32

RafaistheKingofClay · 04/05/2023 14:14

Certainly their tolerance for women and people who aren’t white is very low.

And of course their tolerance for sexual predators and misogynist bullies is very high.

jgw1 · 04/05/2023 15:32

borntobequiet · 04/05/2023 14:32

And of course their tolerance for sexual predators and misogynist bullies is very high.

Are we talking about the police, the CBI or the Tory party?

pointythings · 04/05/2023 15:50

jgw1 · 04/05/2023 15:32

Are we talking about the police, the CBI or the Tory party?

The answer to your question is yes.

DuncinToffee · 04/05/2023 16:00

Voting done, there was indeed a greeter at the door asking if we had our ID, I just gave a friendly smile.

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Notonthestairs · 04/05/2023 16:12

Having a greeter at a polling station is likely to affect reporting on refused ballots, as this can only be recorded at the desk. Councils will need to separate out data for polling stations with and without greeters when submitting data after the polls:

twitter.com/electoralcommuk/status/1654130887888613376?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

newnamethanks · 04/05/2023 18:21

Fraud's an ambition not a crime isn't it? Surely I haven't misunderstood Tory principles?

DuncinToffee · 04/05/2023 19:45

No voter fraud? Right, challenge accepted say the Tories

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tobee · 04/05/2023 20:24

I keep seeing headlines on my news feed from the Express and Telegraph trying to game the optics of the results Grin. First thing it was "boost for Sunak as polls not so bad" but now it's "Tory recovery goes into reverse new poll reveals as voters deliver their verdict today" from the Express. (Courtesy Microsoft News)

Roussette · 04/05/2023 20:32

Anyone any idea when we'll hear any results?

I can't put the News on because I'm over saturated with you know what.

It's the local elections I want to hear about...

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2023 20:41

Roussette · 04/05/2023 20:32

Anyone any idea when we'll hear any results?

I can't put the News on because I'm over saturated with you know what.

It's the local elections I want to hear about...

Here you go Rousette - bit broad brush. 2am first results in.

amp.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/04/local-election-watch-key-results-to-look-out-for-across-england

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2023 20:45

Interesting article from Chris Curtis

I have written for @thetimes this morning about why that "1000 Conservative losses" spin is rubbish, and what to look out for in tonight's results.

twitter.com/chriscurtis94/status/1654016747450540032?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

"Secondly, it is important to avoid early takes. The wards counting overnight on Thursday will disproportionately include places where the Tories will be making gains from independents, while those counting on Friday will disproportionately contain places where the Tories will be losing seats to Labour. The early results may show the Tories with net gains only for that to reverse by the time everything is counted.

Finally, follow the marginals. If we are trying to work out what this means for the general election, we should look at the Labour v Conservative battleground seatss_ that will decide the result. Is Labour making gains in places such as Swindon, Milton Keynes, Dover and Blackpool? If you look at the vote totals in the wards that will make up Labour’s target seats at the next election, which party is winning the popular vote?
That will give us an indication of whether Labour is increasing its vote share among the kind of voters who will decide the next election and how good the party’s ground operation is."

Roussette · 04/05/2023 21:13

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2023 20:41

Thank you... I'll check on it if I wake early. I hope the Tories are bashed, lucky them having the Coronation overshadowing the results

pointythings · 04/05/2023 21:17

No way am I staying up for local elections, I'll pick it all up tomorrow.

I have just come back from voting, staff seemed a little nonplussed by my passport in my maiden name/marriage certificate combo but they accepted it. As they should have.

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2023 21:21

RafaistheKingofClay · 04/05/2023 20:59

https://beyondthetopline.substack.com/p/forget-the-party-spin-what-does-history

Saw this earlier. Interesting thoughts on what a good/bad night will look like for labour/Tories and what isn’t important.

TLDR look at vote share not seat gains / losses.

Fascinating article. I've only skimmed through it but will definitely revisit tomorrow when we know more.

IClaudine · 04/05/2023 21:50

Roussette · 04/05/2023 21:13

Thank you... I'll check on it if I wake early. I hope the Tories are bashed, lucky them having the Coronation overshadowing the results

Thanks from me too, will check if I wake in the night.

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