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Why has there not been an uprising against the Tories?

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RosieLeaLovesTea · 23/04/2023 13:36

Inspired why the what is really going. On in our schools, well Laura …. Thread

why has there not been an uprising against the story government?

the things going on in schools, the level of SEND needs and teachers leaving in droves.

the state of the NHS - staff overwhelmed and completely demoralised. It’s on its knees.

strikes across many public sector services for decent pay due to inflation and cost of living.

their Austerity policy has destroyed public services.

I work in social services and I see it every day. And several u turns on policy for social care - the cap on care costs, the reversal of the NI increase which was meant to provide funding for NHS and social care.

lied to about their behaviour during covid.

it just goes on

surely the whole of the UK needs a wake up call and needs to do something…

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mbosnz · 23/04/2023 13:39

Erm, well, terribly sorry and all that, don't want to be a bother. . . ah, well, you see, it seems that we can't afford to live anymore. . . do you think you could see your way to . . . no? Oh well, never mind. I guess that's just the way it is. Sorry for wasting your time. Shall I volunteer to do another four hours overtime? Needs must and all that. Must pitch in, be a team player, don't you know?

mbosnz · 23/04/2023 13:40

For free, obviously. Got to pay for your winter stables being warm, and your pools being warmer, obviously standards must be maintained. . . of course, I can't afford heating for my house, let alone food for myself and the children, but. . .

2userspast3 · 23/04/2023 13:41

I don't know why British people are so apathetic (compare with the French). Would be interested to hear ideas on that. Personally, I go on demos and write to politicians and write complaints, etc, but I can't see myself organising protests. If someone leads, then I may well follow them. I feel particularly angry about the blatant corruption among politicians - fleecing the public for their own financial gain.

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Fizzadora · 23/04/2023 13:45

Because there's a lot more people totally unaffected by schools, NHS and cost of living crisis than you think.

mbosnz · 23/04/2023 13:46

Yes, but even if you are unaffected, surely you must be aware of others being affected?

Nightlystroll · 23/04/2023 13:46

Are you wanting a riot so you can steal some Nikes? Most people prefer following the law and voting them out in elections.

BitOutOfPractice · 23/04/2023 13:48

I have no idea op. I feel like taking to the streets on a daily basis! 🤷‍♀️

Moonlightsonatas · 23/04/2023 13:48

mbosnz · 23/04/2023 13:46

Yes, but even if you are unaffected, surely you must be aware of others being affected?

But they don’t care! If the Tories give them the best deal they aren’t going to vote to make their own lives worse.

MrsHamlet · 23/04/2023 13:48

mbosnz · 23/04/2023 13:46

Yes, but even if you are unaffected, surely you must be aware of others being affected?

Some people just don't care about other people.

ATerrorofLeftovers · 23/04/2023 13:51

Not very British to riot.

Plus boiled frog syndrome - wage stagnation, eye-watering rises in the cost of living, defunding of public services etc have all happened gradually over some years. We’re less likely to notice incremental change till we’re quite far along with it.

Plus what would blew be rioting for? In favour of? What’s the alternative? It’s not like Labour are putting forward a credible, enticing alternative vision.

DojaPhat · 23/04/2023 13:54
  1. The number of so called 'silent' tories is much greater than any of us really care to admit.
  2. There's something uniquely British about enjoying subjugation and suffering - it's better if we all live terribly than someone somewhere is given any reprieve hence all the posts about doctor's salaries relatively speaking being quite high.
  3. The tories have come to represent something of a 'preservation of British values', something that many see as being eroded in the face of enforced societal change.
  4. The tories know how to play the populist fiddle better than Elton John knows how to play a piano. If they can whip up a frenzy about trans people, refugees, insert whatever group as the reason behind poor public services the public will eat it up. Teachers leaving the profession in droves and food banks popping up everywhere is the fault of a transwoman who arrived to Britain on a dinghy.
Gruffling · 23/04/2023 13:57

I wonder this too. I see the political activism of the French and despair that people here are so apathetic.

Maybe it's an island mentality and the lasting impact of Thatcherism in the 80s? There's a kind of I'm alright Jack mentality and people don't really see the impact of societal issues until they are personally impacted (see Brexit).

Easterfunbun · 23/04/2023 13:58

Cos people keep voting for them and the majority of the population are thick as fuck? That’s my reasoning anyway 🤷‍♀️.

Childhoodnostalgia · 23/04/2023 13:59

I have this conversation with my family often…
and the worse thing is that without doubt they’ll be voted back in again.

megletthesecond · 23/04/2023 14:03

What easter said.

JuneShitfield · 23/04/2023 14:04

Conservatism — both small and large C — excels at simplistic answers to complicated problems. This appeals to a lot of people who don't want to think about politics, or can't be bothered.

It has also morphed into an ideology that gives people permission to be selfish and feather their own nests first. This is a basic human impulse (we all have it, to some degree or other) so it feels like a very easy sell.

Gruffling · 23/04/2023 14:05

Not that I want riots, just a bit of non violent activism.

Why can't we all go outside at 8pm and bang our pots to demand a payrise for NHS staff? Or put rainbows in our windows to support the junior doctors? I was never a pot banger during the pandemic as I felt it was an empty gesture/hypocrisy.

Paloma66 · 23/04/2023 14:14

People don't want to pay more taxes. And there isn't a magic money tree. I heard Wes Streeting on the radio the other day talking about all the amazing things Labour are going to do in the NHS but he didn't talk about how they're going to be paid for (and he wasn't challenged on it by Shelagh Fogarty on LBC). I'm not a Tory voter but it's easy for parties in opposition to make promises they can't and won't fulfil. It goes for all parties. There is no accountability for failing on promises. People are fed up with it and I think there's an element of 'better the devil you know'

CurlyhairedAssassin · 23/04/2023 14:14

Fizzadora · 23/04/2023 13:45

Because there's a lot more people totally unaffected by schools, NHS and cost of living crisis than you think.

Are you trying to say that there are many families in this country whose children are privately educated, who only ever use private healthcare and never need emergency care and who can just go out and buy whatever they want without a second thought? Didn't Boris get treated by NHS staff when he had COVID? Supposedly.

LlynTegid · 23/04/2023 14:16

This is Britain. We don't do such things. You'll be expecting us to speak some Spanish when on holiday in Spain next, OP.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 23/04/2023 14:16

CurlyhairedAssassin · 23/04/2023 14:14

Are you trying to say that there are many families in this country whose children are privately educated, who only ever use private healthcare and never need emergency care and who can just go out and buy whatever they want without a second thought? Didn't Boris get treated by NHS staff when he had COVID? Supposedly.

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Oh, I forgot about the elderly rich. They still need their arses wiping. Do they ALL have highly-paid private nurses living FT in an annexe of their mansion?

Fandabedodgy · 23/04/2023 14:16

Why no uprising - because we are a democracy.

It's that simple.

PrincessW11 · 23/04/2023 14:20

To say that Diane Abbott is doing her best to help the Labour Party to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

Hideous antisemitism seemingly not gone away at all and add that to the horrendous misogyny in the Labour Party I wonder at this point why ANYONE would vote for them.

AIBU?

PrincessW11 · 23/04/2023 14:21

From another post

mackthepony · 23/04/2023 14:21

Because Brits are too bothered about looking like troublemakers in front of the lords and masters

It's that simple.

Another great premise of the class system